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310Ojisan
12-12-2005, 05:13 PM
OK, I think, (no… I know) Americans have a disillusion ideal of the Great Drift King Keichi Tsuchiya. If he is the god-father of drifting would he support the growth or the sport rather than repressing it?

This is a VERY confidential email that can impack a lot of people in the industry, so a lot of the names have been edited out…. Sorry, (but we all wanna keep our day jobs)

I think Tsuchiya has gone to far and like a baby... He's not as cool as everybody think he is....


-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXX[mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:28 PM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Cc: XXXXXXXXX; XXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: ORIDO
Importance: High

XXXX,

Just got a call from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.
Apparently, Tsuchiya and Inada are very upset at the fact that Orido,
Taniguchi and Ueno ran at XDL. Tsuchiya has now forced the 3 drivers out of
D1. They will not be running at Irwindale this weekend.
On top, Tsuchiya has put on pressure to Hot Version (HXXXXXXXX?) to release rido from the HV cast. HV has already accepted Tsuchiya's request and released Orido from the upcoming film shoot.

XXXXXXXXXX received this news directly from Orido. In an e-mail to
XXXXXXXXXX, Orido explained the above situation and apologized that
possibilities of him running in D1 and HV film shoot are slim.

I'm not sure how this is going to effect XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX next
week, but we definitely need to get in touch with XXXXto clarify things. As
you probably agree, Orido is an important part of XXX and we should stress
that XXXXshould put their foot down if this ridiculous request from Tsuchiya
is true. (Although I can easily imagine how XXX is reacting to all this).

XXXX

dreamdrivedrift
12-12-2005, 05:35 PM
if this is true, that is ridiculous. but i think we should hear both sides of the argument before we make a decision, so tsuchiya come here and back yourself up :D

CamelTouge
12-12-2005, 05:53 PM
Before anyone starts boycotting and all, see if the three mentioned will run at D1, which is about 3 days away now..

Mike Peters
12-12-2005, 06:01 PM
yeah right, and if your gonna claim to represent the"industry" learn how not to look like a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* *Censored**Censored* *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* *Censored* and learn how to spell "impact".

FD3S_pilot
12-12-2005, 06:06 PM
first how did u get this email? is it real...beside we cant really judge dori san based on that email. but like CamelTouge said if the 3 dont show at irwindale for some "unexplained" reasons then it might be true. but dont go saying things about Tsuchiya if you dont know him personally...and if i was tsuchiya i would repressing drifting in the US...y? cause a majority is drifting or trying just for the cool factors,sponserships, and money...but thats just me...go ahead and hate me now.... :rolleyes:

ArchangelX
12-12-2005, 06:11 PM
I don't believe in heresy unless it's right there in front of me talking to me face to face.

There's enough rumors and speculation anyways, without adding to the fire. When it comes down to it, it's business. Remember that.

FC3slider88
12-12-2005, 06:59 PM
I think this e-mail is a fake

Slapshotnerd
12-12-2005, 07:08 PM
if it's true, it wouldn't be the first time that D1 has tried to flex their muscle and push people out.

if it's false, it wouldn't be the first time rumors of D1 pushing people around have come around, especially just days before the event.

FD3S_pilot
12-12-2005, 07:25 PM
i think its those drag racers that planted this email ;)

kidynomite
12-12-2005, 07:46 PM
Business is business, contracts are contracts, Japanese people are not American people...

Culture differences, learn them and don't cry about it. Stop watching and go drive.

MonkeySlide
12-12-2005, 08:36 PM
While this email does seem suspicious..

My question is what would this person have to gain from creating a fake email that mentions no names of the parties involved except for Taniguchi, Ueno, and Orido?

And for the past few months there have been more and more talk about Taniguchi and Ueno possibly leaving D1...so this XDL thing isn't that hard to believe.

What does seem hard to believe about this whole thing to me is how this person got a hold of this email.

Also..why would Keiichi do this now? He had to have known about those three driver's intention on running XDL within a reasonable amount of time before the actual event..so if he disliked that idea..then he would have made some kind of action like this sooner and it would have gotten out possibly before XDL instead of afterward.

The letter mentions Orido apoligizing to someone since his chances in competing in D1 and being in Hot Version are slim...so it would make sense that the people he's apologizing to would be RS-R since they are his title drifting sponsor.

So if anyone would be ticked off about this whole situation it would be them since they are loosing all of that exposure over this alleged hissy fit that the drift king is having.

Perhaps we should wait and see if RS-R makes any kind of public statement about this...otherwise..I'll be at the media day for the D1 event and I'll be sure to ask if this is true.

At the last D1 media event I was the only person that asked about that whole rumor of Ueo being banned ;)

310Ojisan
12-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Well put Monkey! lets wait till media day to find out the truth.
And as for you Mike your a dumb *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* that don't know anything about the industry on the J-side so I would just shut up if I was you and not flex your internet geek muscle!!!

email came today. Dori did this recently, lets wait till D1 to see what happens...

just remember I told you soooooo...............

uchi_san_saikos
12-12-2005, 09:55 PM
the one thought that runs through my mind when i see this is that it might be a publicity scam from D1 to arouse more attention for the USA vs JPN match this weekend...
but I heard something of this nature at XDL

AllMotorKing
12-12-2005, 10:10 PM
good god i love politics! i can't wait to check out the D1 event this week to dig up some dirt.

riddle me this batman...do you know how many D1 drivers were at SEMA looking for rides in '06 for formula D?

Slapshotnerd
12-13-2005, 02:16 AM
good god i love politics! i can't wait to check out the D1 event this week to dig up some dirt.

riddle me this batman...do you know how many D1 drivers were at SEMA looking for rides in '06 for formula D?
there were definately a hand full of drivers who were, at the very least, 'shopping around'.

won't mention names though...

CamelTouge
12-13-2005, 09:19 AM
Hypothetically speaking, say this email was TRUE. Would you NOT GO to any future d1 events because Taniguchi, Orido, and Ueno wouldnt be there? I can understand if Taniguchi wasnt there that people would not go, but I do not know anyone that can say that Orido or Ueno are their favorites, and they would not support d1 if they were not there.

If this email was true, I can understand Keiichis standpoint. He has major power in D1, and that his drivers are trying to compete in another LEAGUE. That does not look good for business. Its like you work for McD's, and you go to Burger King for lunch in your uniform. Looks bad for business. Now people can argue that it is not competing against d1 in any way, but when it comes down to it..it is another drifting league. BTW,Are there any japanese drivers from d1 competing in formula d?

If 310's email is true, I would think that its messed up, however, I would still go to D1 events or any drifting event for the love of the sport, not the drivers.

akuma S14
12-13-2005, 10:07 AM
If I knew it was gonna be that kinda party I would'a stuck my kok in the mashed potatoes!

hatebbobbarker
12-13-2005, 10:07 AM
Actually, orido is my favourite drifter, and has been since I first got into drifting, Ive loved the fact the he stopped judging and is driving again. I wont boycott d1, the politics have always been there, its a bunch of crap but oh well.

however, If Orido isnt going to be at the american touge 2, I will not be going, I only entered for the chance to have orido drive my car because I am an orido fan boy.



anybody who has ever dealt with him knows that keiichi can be an *Censored**Censored**Censored* about this stuff. So it honestly wouldnt surprise me.

what makes XDL different, orido and taniguchi have done tons of demos, taniguchi even drove a formula D demo...

vrtblacksheep86
12-13-2005, 10:59 AM
A little insight into this matter.
I dont think it's wise to try and boycott an individual, since his appearance here is so rare that it'd be like trying to tell everyone to boycott Haleys Comet. Why waste your time would be most peoples mindset.
Just remember that if the gentleman in question did so under contract with D1, said that they wouldn't perform under another entity then they could face more then just a little banning, ya know? Remember Ueo disappearnace? Why cause he drove in another event. Tsuchiya may not be the ,"judge" but he may be the ,"Jury and Executioner" by his billet in the companies interest. So careful and not shoot the messenger. ask him if he's a bad guy first and then commence firing.....

Be wise and take the sports hisory into consideration before trying to get him on peoples bad sides. If it wasn't for him we might not even have drifitng in our town.

There's a lot more to that tiny man then some are giving him credit and if he has any financial interest in D1 then he's definitely gonna get involved. Hell, I would too!


If it is the case then Im'm sorry for the drivers in mind...

Booney

GRAVELCREWX2
12-13-2005, 01:07 PM
Yes, seriously - GCrallyX is the same weekend and having their final round of the GCrallyX Championship Series. See Ken Gushi has been secretly (not so secret) doing some rally trianing and told these guys how much fun him and his father have been having. (True statement - the part about those guys coming to GCrallyX, well let's just say we are having a little fun.) AND this is just the event that does just that; have fun, no politics, and is the history and basis of drifting as it trancended from the gravel to the touge in Japan... here is the USA, this is just SO-Cal GravelCrew Style! So if you want to come out and see something different and just as core to motorsports on the global level, then come out this saturday...

GCRallyX Championship Series | FINAL ROUND | December 17th, 2005
Tombstone Paint Ball Park, Corona, Ca.

THIS WILL BE THE LAST GCrallyX Event for 2005 and a final farewell to our beloved Tombstone Paintball Park – forever!
Yes, the Corona riverbed project is taking the land that Tombstone Paintball Park resides on. This is both a major blow for our rally community and the livelihood of our friend, Leon Styles with his paintball park. His passion for rally has allowed the GravelCrew three great years of refining our rally skills and one great GCrallyX competition season! This facility will surely be missed. Come celebrate and honor the last day of use of this facility as it has provided true rally obstacles and given true rally feel for our little rallycross world.

We look forward to seeing you out for some rallycross fun! ALL SPECTATORS ARE FREENINTYFREE! $45 for competition entry fee, a helmet and a technically sound vehicle and you are good to go! Yes, we do have a street tire class so bring it! The weather is changing and believe us when we tell you it gets cold, so come prepared; big coat, beanies, gloves – dress like you are going to the mountains. OK, at least dress your girlfriends as such. We are not scared - IF IT RAINS… YEA - WE RACE!

WHAT: RALLY-X GravelCrew Style!
WHEN: December 17th, 2005
WHERE: Tombstone Paint Ball Facility, Corona, Ca.

TIMES
08:00 AM gates open for volunteer workers, set up
10:00 AM Tech inspection and registration begins
12:00 AM Rallying starts
Awards ceremony to follow event.

ADDRESS FOR LOCATION
2641 Pomona-Rincond Rd., Corona, California, 92880
Map for directions: http://www.gcrallyx.com/map_event01.htm


CLASSES
SS2 - Street Stock 2WD
SS4 - Street Stock 4WD
SM2 - Street Modified 2WD
SM4 - Street Modified 4WD
R2 - Rally 2WD
R4 - Rally 4WD
TRUCK – all 2WD & 4WD

RULES: www.gcrallyx.com/pg_rules.htm
$45 competition fee, due at sign-ups (payable in cash only)

Sincerely,
GCRallyX Staff
www.gcrallyx.com
http://www.gcrallyx.com/gallery/10_22_2005_tombstone/18.jpg

frictionfighter
12-13-2005, 01:14 PM
rally is friggin sweet, but im going to d1.

CamelTouge
12-13-2005, 04:35 PM
My inside source at D1 said that the three mentioned drivers will be at d1 and they will be driving. "Stop talking s#!t" was his exact quote. end of rumor.

done.

hatebbobbarker
12-13-2005, 04:53 PM
hahaha shameless plug from gravel crew, if you guys had the event start at 5 as I believe you usually do we could do both ( I know I would) Id rather watch john (cabot) then gushi though...

GRAVELCREWX2
12-13-2005, 04:56 PM
hehehehe - yea, you know it. actually our time may change..... keep ya posted! everyone likes tombstone at night and the scary stuff on the back side of the barn....

Pennyman
12-14-2005, 11:11 PM
rally is friggin sweet, but im going to d1.

Ditto.

About this rumor, I'm not getting my panties in a knot. D1 is fun, but politics add confusion.

I don't want to think about politics while sitting in the stands at Irwindale.

hatebbobbarker
12-14-2005, 11:49 PM
hehehehe - yea, you know it. actually our time may change..... keep ya posted! everyone likes tombstone at night and the scary stuff on the back side of the barn....
definitely, If I can do both I will

you dont happen to be the gravel crew wrx going to touge showdown?

MonkeySlide
12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
Well I just came back from the media day a short while ago so let me go ahead and clear some things up.

I didn't get there in time to personally ask Keiichi about the rumor BUT

ORIDO AND UENO WERE PRESENT! however TANIGUCHI WAS NOT

So I guess this rumor is partially true but perhaps it only applied to Taniguchi.

Ueno had his soarer and Orido intersingly enough was NOT driving the RS-R/RIDOX Supra but instead was driving a new car..I guess RS-R has a S15 now. I'll try to get up some pictures soon.

In other news Rhys royally thrashed his GTO during practice and is out for this event.

Also the megan racing car tagged the emergency truck and messed up its hood and fender.

Looks like this weekend is gonna be interesting

swifty949
12-15-2005, 03:23 PM
I hear Drift Buffet is working the track...and they don't even have flags! They should have NOT let another car go on the track with the safety truck out there. There is NO excuse for that incident.

MonkeySlide
12-15-2005, 03:31 PM
I hear Drift Buffet is working the track...and they don't even have flags! They should have NOT let another car go on the track with the safety truck out there. There is NO excuse for that incident.

Ah you are correct sir they had absolutely no flags whatsoever...instead they wave their arms like gilligan and the skiper did when they were trying to get off the lsland.

And the guy who was sending out the cars for their runs seriously had an anger management problem I wouldn't be surprized if he ended up getting into a throw down with one of the DA guys.

Does anyone know why drift buffet is working the track instead of Drift Day Assoc.??

yukio@jic-magic
12-15-2005, 04:09 PM
Ueno had his soarer and Orido intersingly enough was NOT driving the RS-R/RIDOX Supra but instead was driving a new car..I guess RS-R has a S15 now. I'll try to get up some pictures soon.



RS-R has always had a S15, just to let you know. ;)

Hubert Young
12-15-2005, 05:12 PM
The incident involving the emergency vehicle was totally avoidable if people working on the track had flags. Also, the drivers of the emergency vehicles could use a little more common sense before just jamming on the track and not park their emergency vehicles right in the middle of the track without looking!

Poor Tsutomu in his Megan Racing S14. His weekend looks gloomy right now... but looks like the damage is fixable. Wish him luck!

Drift Brick
12-15-2005, 05:41 PM
Ueno had his soarer and Orido intersingly enough was NOT driving the RS-R/RIDOX Supra but instead was driving a new car..I guess RS-R has a S15 now. I'll try to get up some pictures soon.

awww... poopie. :( I wanted to see orido's new supra.


In other news Rhys royally thrashed his GTO during practice and is out for this event.

wow. intriguing.

ArchangelX
12-15-2005, 06:07 PM
...and they don't even have flags!

I couldn't imagine any motorsports event without flags. That's a huge safety issue...espescially in drifting where spin-outs, etc. are such a common occurence.

Ueno had his soarer and Orido intersingly enough was NOT driving the RS-R/RIDOX Supra but instead was driving a new car..I guess RS-R has a S15 now. I'll try to get up some pictures soon.

Orido smashed the Supra into a mess at the last D1 event. It's totally expected for him not to be driving it. That's for sure.

kurumakun
12-15-2005, 07:02 PM
This should clear up the issue why Drift Association is not staffing the D1 this weekend. I've have so much respect for Moto Miwa. Please Read... This was riped from the Club4ag forum but as a Drift Assoc. member I feel you guys should know too.

Moto:
OK, there's a lot of confusion and rumors floating around... So let me clarify things in a short summary:

FACT:
D1 is the greatest collection of drivers and teams bar none, globally and in the USA.

Drift Association had the opportunity to work with them despite many promotional entity changes we have been the only organization to stick to the events for the sake of working with these great teams and drivers.

We have also been recently involved in other events like XDL, Formula D, and our own Drift Day for that matter as partnered with other organizations across the USA to promote and shape these events.

Matters of this D1 Grand Prix event December 14th ~17th:

There have been conflicting matters on methods of our participation for this event. Some of the Officers at D1 have opted seek myself and not the services of Drift Association as a whole. While others inside are asking for a change internally, and have complete understanding of who we are, things have not been very clear to us. (Or, it may have been and I just have not been listening between the lines, in which case, I am to blame as well.)  

In any case, we began as an entity to serve the needs and interests of drifting community as a whole, really as we see it, and that I seek not any position that may well limit us from operating in other series that also are beneficiary to the sport in my view.

Bottom line though as we all know, is that we, Drift Association LLC comes as a whole, and I seek no position at D1 Grand Prix that will exclude key personnel from my staff, and our abilities to select who is fitting of staffing at any events that we partake. After all, what abilities do I have in operation of anything? As I see only you are all collectively what made me who I am today. If our staff or some of them are deficient in meeting the needs of D1, I can make adjustments for such as that will be a request more in the issues of business and their interest in their idea and quality of the show. But, I will not make adjustments based on the fact that we serve the industry and their cause is to make us exclusive to the series without D1 embracing all that we do, or based on their needs without regard to who I owe my presence in this community.

I'd like to be fair to D1 though in saying that these offers from D1 are not at this point, a collective decision by all of its officers, and that there are still many decisions to be made internally at D1 that may pave way for our inclusion in acceptable ways in the future.

For this event, another entity Drift Buffet was selected by D1 Grand Prix, to which I was selected to oversee as supervisor. I decline though, because I come as a whole of my own staff, and I wish not to depart in any way from our core staff that supported my cause up to this point and turning back the time for the last 8 years...before even Club4AG in many ways. Drift Buffet is our friend too…but I cannot delete from my own plans my own staff to work with outside group with a 5 day notice by D1. I say this with total respect for Drift Buffet and its members, that I am sorry.

At this point though, as D1 embarks on a 3 day Competition here at Irwindale, my wishes go to nothing but a fair and safe event. I wish the best regards to Drift Buffet for their commitments, and D1 for bringing yet another event to the USA for all of us to see at great expense and collaboration of their resources. That part is genuine and I do seek to see a great event for the spectators and media no matter what their goals are with us.

Now from what I said as “limited participation” before, I’d like to clarify this:

This is my support to all the drivers seeking to obtain a spot at D1 competition, those people that have been integral to the success of our causes in the past. This includes the US and the Japanese drivers who also we have come to appreciate. While some are clearly the property of D1, I seek not to cause issues. For those that are not yet though, part of the roster, I seek nothing but successful attempts for them to join the ranks of world’s greatest drifters. Also the supporters and sponsors of Drift Day, I will make myself present to them to help them seek their own goals at this event.

To that end, I will not be present as Operations manager of the event, but for whatever I can help to lend a hand at drivers seeking to do their best, and for those that are expending resources for that cause. You won’t see me with D1 Shirt on this time… but running about with many of our friends that have their own commitments at this event.

As you can begin to see, it still is my dream to operate and support the greatest drifting show on Earth, but I wanted to do it in a manner that is true to our goals and limited to what I see is still within the scope of what we do as Drift Association LLC, and the goals behind the unit.

Finally, this is NOT a statement of negativity on anyone. Just a statement of how we do things, and values we hold at Drift Association. For the better or for worse, it’s the only way I know.

I ask that all of you with an intention of spectating at D1, to go ahead and buy the tickets! I'm just as delighted to see them here and ready to rock. We all need your cheers for the drivers making the challenges and I too will be there to see to it that they have the resources and supporters to go make our own team driver's best efforts count!


Moto
Webmaster, Club4AG
President, Drift Association LLC



Moto
Webmaster, Club4AG

MonkeySlide
12-15-2005, 07:11 PM
*sniff sniff*...the man is a freakin poet..

Mad respect for standing behind your team!

Hey..since you're such a good sport about the whole thing...why dont you help out drift buffet by letting them borrow your FLAGS!!

Slapshotnerd
12-15-2005, 07:21 PM
they had flags by midafternoon.

I missed both Rhys and the Megan Racing crashes. But someone told me that the emergency truck was blocking some spectators who had jumped the fence and gotten onto the track to help a disabled car. without the safety truck there, the megan racing car might have hit these spectators, and the scene would have been even worse.

I left before the end of the drivers search. i'm sure i'll hear results shortly...

Slapshotnerd
12-15-2005, 07:33 PM
some of my inside sources told me:

- the email was real. My inside source got the email.
- Ueno and Orido showed up just to see if they could get in, and somehow they did. Taniguchi didn't bother to show up because he didn't want to go through the trouble.
- not to post numbers, but the Drift Buffet staff is being paid less than the DA staff was being paid
- the damages to the track truck are being billed to D1 (who will probably end up billing Drift Buffet)

MonkeySlide
12-15-2005, 07:41 PM
some of my inside sources told me:

- the email was real. My inside source got the email.
- Ueno and Orido showed up just to see if they could get in, and somehow they did. Taniguchi didn't bother to show up because he didn't want to go through the trouble.
- not to post numbers, but the Drift Buffet staff is being paid less than the DA staff was being paid
- the damages to the track truck are being billed to D1 (who will probably end up billing Drift Buffet)

So Drift Buffet is being paid less than DA on top of having the truck damages being taken out of their paycheck as well?

Psh..they might as well be called "volunteers"

AllMotorKing
12-15-2005, 09:28 PM
there's is a reason why all these event producers work w/ Drift Association in the first place. they are professional and their rates are more than reasonable.

i'm writing moto in for governor in the next election. he rules and always looks out for the best interest of the sport of drifting and its participants.

hachirolla808
12-15-2005, 10:36 PM
Don't know why Taniguchi never showed up, and I don't know if any of the rumors are true. Taniguchi has missed many a D-1 because he is busy with other engagements(ie. Super Taikyu). Don't let certain circumstances create a reality to something that no one can prove is true.

D-1 drivers are people too. We all have stuff to do, and I know of some other top drivers who aren't going because they are busy.

hatebbobbarker
12-15-2005, 11:00 PM
tremendous respect for moto, whatever happened to them making his wikipedia entry!

akuma S14
12-15-2005, 11:54 PM
Ah you are correct sir they had absolutely no flags whatsoever...instead they wave their arms like gilligan and the skiper did when they were trying to get off the lsland.

And the guy who was sending out the cars for their runs seriously had an anger management problem I wouldn't be surprized if he ended up getting into a throw down with one of the DA guys.

Does anyone know why drift buffet is working the track instead of Drift Day Assoc.??

monkey slide - To be more precise Drift buffet had flags that were locked in an office @ the track that no one had a key to except one guy(Irwindale Official) who didn't arrive until we had actually went out and bought 5 new sets at about 2pm. I, the starter in question, had many problems with drivers not paying attention to the starter, which can lead to delays, and also a timing problem with cars coming off the track.then there is the Emergency crew truck/Meagan car incident, I sent the Meagan car as the ambulance started towards wreck #1. At that point there was no stopping the meagan car, and the safety crews started pulling into the drivers line, my heart dropped. I know all the DA guys and not 1 of them hasked asked to me to "throw down". LOL.

and as to why Drift Buffet is working D1? We were asked. Drift Buffet did not lobby to take away management, we didn't even asked to do it. We we asked by D1 to handle the event. I was really amazed and left wondering why they would come to us. Drift buffet has never claimed to be Drift Assaciation/Club 4ag or to have their expertise in big venue management, but I have often asked Moto P for advice regarding this huge tasked that has been place upon us at Drift Buffet.

I hope maybe this may clear things up for you guys before you hate us for the wrong reasons. I am very sadened by the mis-haps of todays drivers search, and I am ready to get a few hours sleep before the qualifying session tommorow.
Terry
Terry@driftbuffet.com

cfrost
12-16-2005, 12:12 AM
what kinda name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX anyway? :confused:

Mute
12-16-2005, 12:21 AM
Having once worked within the D1 office and been involved within certain aspects of the said "politics", heres my take, even if that email was crap, maybe it will help some of you who may be a little off with your perceptions of the Japanese side of things.

"Boycotting" Tsuchiya is the most ignorant and foolish thing I have ever heard, especially from that email. If you had a clue about the fact that it's not a bunch of happy go-lucky japanese people skipping hand in hand drifting their cars around corners, you'd be a little more respected in your comments. But it seems that you think they are seriously doing it because they have nothing better to do. IT IS A BUSINESS, your competitor dollars, your spectator dollars, sponsor dollars, booth dollars, D1 concession dollars, all go towards making money.

How does this apply to the Tsuchiya email?

Well, say, you drive for Yokohama, they invest money in you, feature you on their largest promotional material that circulates all throughout your country, making you a star overnight, and then you turn around and rock some Coopers. Would Yokohama give you a high five or kick your *Censored**Censored**Censored* out? You better believe you'd be 86'd.

D1 was started greatly in conjunction with Option Magazine, started by the respected Daijiro Inada, who also created, Video Option, Option 2, Drift Tengoku, and JDM Option not to mention some other more elitist magazines. Anyways, Option covered the up and coming drifters of the time which included the likes of Nomuken, Kazama, and sure enough Taniguchi as well as many others. If it wasnt for Dai Chan organizing these events, and covering them both in Video Option and the Magazines there wouldnt be much mainstream hype the likes of how it is today, and likewise, there wouldnt be the superstars that some of you look up to like Taniguchi, not to say he wouldnt still be a great driver, he just wouldnt be such an icon. It's all business, after so much invested you would never expect your investment to turn and go somewhere else, every move is approved or rejected and anything deviating from that system is met with a very cold and swift negative outcome.

Hate it, love it, kiss my *Censored**Censored**Censored*, its the way it is, now with all that said, that whole email could be full of sh!t, but its also very likely to be true. Just shut up and go drift. Tell D1 what you think about their practices when you get on top of the winners podium, till then just make friends and leave the politics to the a$$holes, there are enough of them out there to deal.

And yeah Moto is a great guy, lots of love for the sport, and he knows what's up more than he lets on.

MonkeySlide
12-16-2005, 12:37 AM
monkey slide - To be more precise Drift buffet had flags that were locked in an office @ the track that no one had a key to except one guy(Irwindale Official) who didn't arrive until we had actually went out and bought 5 new sets at about 2pm. I, the starter in question, had many problems with drivers not paying attention to the starter, which can lead to delays, and also a timing problem with cars coming off the track.then there is the Emergency crew truck/Meagan car incident, I sent the Meagan car as the ambulance started towards wreck #1. At that point there was no stopping the meagan car, and the safety crews started pulling into the drivers line, my heart dropped. I know all the DA guys and not 1 of them hasked asked to me to "throw down". LOL.

and as to why Drift Buffet is working D1? We were asked. Drift Buffet did not lobby to take away management, we didn't even asked to do it. We we asked by D1 to handle the event. I was really amazed and left wondering why they would come to us. Drift buffet has never claimed to be Drift Assaciation/Club 4ag or to have their expertise in big venue management, but I have often asked Moto P for advice regarding this huge tasked that has been place upon us at Drift Buffet.

I hope maybe this may clear things up for you guys before you hate us for the wrong reasons. I am very sadened by the mis-haps of todays drivers search, and I am ready to get a few hours sleep before the qualifying session tommorow.
Terry
Terry@driftbuffet.com

Alright well the emergency truck thing was an accident thats obvious..but I think everyone's gripe is that it really seems like something that could have been very easily avoided and only happend because someone wasn't paying attention.

Going by what you said I can't really tell if it was you who wasn't paying attention or the truck driver who wasn't.

Now if that rumor about D1 billing you guys for the damages to the truck is true then that would mean that they think its your fault. However thats just a rumor we dont even know if thats true so if you could clear it up that would be cool..if not then thats your business.

As far as how you guys got the gig..if they came to you then they came to you thats cool..but seriously.... nothing personal but the way you worded it, you sort of make it seem like you were unprepaired to do the job and you're just sort of playing it by ear...I dont think thats the case...well I sincerely hope not anyway.

They came to you guys and you guys were ready to step up right?

Slapshotnerd
12-16-2005, 12:52 AM
Taniguchi didn't bother to show up because he didn't want to go through the trouble.


update - that AND he had a JGTC event to attend to.

Also - ueno is pitted in the JIC area.

and Orido's supra was wrecked in a random incident, not anything at the track.

edit - as for who's getting the bill for the truck - right now it's all heresay. we'll find out soon enough. If i'm wrong, my bad. If i'm right, i don't take any credit. i'm just repeating what others are telling me...

lookoutmike
12-16-2005, 06:21 AM
americans are idiots. this is why we cant have anything great here. everybody thinks they have a clue but they have NONE. stop posting rumors.

on a side note i hope the incidents of the day dont "impact" drifting as a motorsport and how it is looked at by insurance companies. id hate to think that rates will go up because of someone elses stupidity.

driftex
12-16-2005, 02:25 PM
what kinda name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX anyway? :confused:
i think it's german or perhaps micronesian

Pennyman
12-16-2005, 02:52 PM
Whether or not the track had their own set of flags, I think Drift Buffet might have been more professional by bringing their own. That is, unless DB was told they would be provided with flags beforehand by the track.

I think this could be a valuable event to learn from, and if DB takes it in stride, they could become a better organization because of it.

However, ask ANY SCCA or NASA member, (I know several) and they'll tell you that it's just plain unsafe to hold an event without flags, or at least walkie-talkies.....

Tell my you guys had walkie-talkies!......

hatebbobbarker
12-16-2005, 05:34 PM
Got bored, put the letter through the ebonics translator:

XXXX,

Just got uh page from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.
Apparently, Tsuchiya an' Inada iz very upset at da fact dat Orido,
Taniguchi an' Ueno ran at XDL. Tsuchiya has now forced da 3 drivers out o'
D1. They will not be running at Irwindale dis here weekend.
On top, Tsuchiya has put on pressure ta Hot Version (HXXXXXXXX?) ta release rido from da HV cast. HV has already accepted Tsuchiya'srequest an' released Orido from da upcoming film smoke.

XXXXXXXXXX received dis here news directly from Orido. In an e-mail ta
XXXXXXXXXX, Orido explained da above *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* an' apologized dat
possibilities o' him running in D1 an' HV film smoke iz slim.

I'm not sure how dis here iz going ta effect XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX next
week, but we's definitely need ta git in whack wiff XXXXto clarify things. As
ya prob'ly agree, Orido iz an important part o' XXX an' we's should stress
dat XXXXshould put they foot down if dis here ridiculous request from Tsuchiya
iz true. (Although I can easily imagine how XXX iz reacting ta all this).

XXXX sho 'nuff!