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Wickdmarz
06-02-2003, 12:29 AM
Hi Guys!

I'm looking for my own first car. I'm looking to pay 3500 or less. Just looking for some suggestions, a car good for drifting and mountain runs, but still need to use for everyday driving. Thanks for the help.

CrazyHawaiian
06-02-2003, 01:23 AM
I'll assume you want an import/sport compact. I would say either a mid 80's Toyota Corolla or a late 80's Nissan 240sx. Both of those would be good drift cars (good drifting platforms) and cost less than $3500 (blue book value). The Corolla will probably be cheaper than the 240. Try to find one that is running good and hasn't been modified yet (then you know it wasnt raced/abused).

Wickdmarz
06-02-2003, 06:53 AM
Thanks alot...I have been looking at the 240's not much of the corolla's. Well ever since this weekend I might look into them. Three guys were driving corolla's up on Mt. Wilson, and god were they fast as hell.

Dori Star
06-02-2003, 10:54 AM
not really fast, but good traction down tha mountain... i met up with some friends at a toyota meet at diamond plaza, and they were laughing at how slow they run, but down a mountain, damn... go with a 240... there tight smooth running cars...

Wickdmarz
06-02-2003, 12:59 PM
Hmm...They were fast going up and down the mountain. But really speed all depends if you know the course. Cuz you know, you may have a Subaru WRX but still can be passed up by a corolla going uphill if you don't know the course.

Fastback180
06-02-2003, 01:22 PM
if u ask me..dont get a 240..there everywhere!...not so many old corollas..say from 85-87 hathback GT-S...if u look for the corollas, dont get SR5!!!..only GT-S!!

Wickdmarz
06-02-2003, 01:38 PM
Is the GT-S in my price range of 3500??

CrazyHawaiian
06-02-2003, 08:48 PM
Yes. The GT-S would be in your price range. The year of choice would be an 86. In stock form the car wont be very fast, but is it possible to build a fast motor for that car (4AG). Overall the car is a good platform for drifting. Alot of aftermarket support, RWD, solid rear axle, and good chance you'll get a 5 speed.

Turbo_Rotary
06-02-2003, 08:51 PM
I say go with the corolla cuz they're cheap, and they are toyotas so you know they are reliable. I don't know how much the 240's go for, but like fastback 180 said, I've seen a lot more 240's, silvia's, etc. around since drifting had started getting popular. Of course, if reliability wasn't an issue I'd say go for a 2nd gen RX-7 just because in my opinion I think they are a better all around sports car and they go for pretty cheap, but reliability is always an issue, so with that the maintenance would be a little higher (for the Turbo II, the NA is pretty reliable if you take care of it). Another good all around sports car is the MR2, but those are a bit more expensive and you gotta be a good driver to keep a MR car in a drift and not spin it. There are other good drift cars out there but my mind is drawing a blank right now.

Wickdmarz
06-03-2003, 07:03 AM
Yea I love the 2nd gen RX-7, but I don't know much about them. Like is parts and repair cheap? My stepdad tells me to stay away...

Dori Star
06-03-2003, 08:28 AM
stay away... im concidering buying my uncles for 600, but it has a blown injection manifold? i think? o well, my friends cousin is selling an s13 coupe for 2k with no body damage... and good strong engine, stick.. and he drives it like a granny... not sure about tha miles tho... but its kool for an sr swap... which i know a place that does it for cheap (3700) or you can buy an already swapped car (180sx for 6300) i think? but the 3700 includes taxes and installation...

Fastback180
06-03-2003, 09:52 AM
in response to hawaiian..the AE86 (Hachi Roku) are not just 86, the platform was 85-87, and I also dont think I have ever seen an automatic GT-S..never know though, I might just not have seen them...and you forgot to mention the 50/50 weight distribution!..great little cars, perfect for a first car. Many many possibilities for it too. I have seen SR20DET's in them, 20B 3 rotor, 13B...many many engines. Plus for the stock 4AG, theres a lot for it in the aftermarket. And rotarys are kind of a hassle for a daily driver because, after so many miles your usually supposed to get the whole engine rebuilt...But if you have the money I say go for a Turbo II FC3S

Wickdmarz
06-03-2003, 01:35 PM
Well I want an manual for sure...hate automatics. I need a car that will be reiable for me to drive like 400 miles every couple weeks. I'll be moving to Santa Cruz in Sept but I still plan to come back couple times a month. So that needs to key in, so now I have my money I really need to seriously think about which car is good for me. The turbo would probably hell on my insurance, even I'm prepaying a year still. I'm looking at 1000 or so for 97 Civic, dont know what a turbo rx-7 would cost.

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Wickdmarz
Yea I love the 2nd gen RX-7, but I don't know much about them. Like is parts and repair cheap? My stepdad tells me to stay away...

I think the parts are little more expensive just because the fact that it is a rotary, and there are very few around in comparison to piston engines. But if you look around you can find parts for a pretty good price. It would obviously be cheaper if you did the work yourself also. If maintenance and reliability are going to be a big issue though, then I'd stay away from an RX-7.

As for insurance, I can't really help on that one since I've never had another car to compare it to, but I don't think it should be TOO bad compared to other cars.

shyreminiscer
06-03-2003, 02:22 PM
97 civics are good, but about the AE86, that is one car that is hard to find (in my area that is) and is commonly not seen around unlike civics. If I were you I would try hard to find an AE86...just remember, looks dont matter all the time

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by shyreminiscer
97 civics are good, but about the AE86, that is one car that is hard to find (in my area that is) and is commonly not seen around unlike civics. If I were you I would try hard to find an AE86...just remember, looks dont matter all the time

I think a good place to start looking would be www.club4ag.com in the for sale section. I'm sure you could get some good tips on finding one from those guys.

SlEePeR-SeNtRa
06-03-2003, 04:05 PM
he said to get a fast car not a honda :o yawning of the exicitment of a d15 roaring in my ears, the 98 hp gets me to 60 under 12 secs. get the 240

Oddball 7
06-03-2003, 04:34 PM
pshh... the hell with the Hachi... get a Daewoo ! I mean whats better than 78 hp to the wheel ? LOL... jus messin' with you. Dude you can find hachi's around but with the whole drift scene picking up people are selling for more cuz they know what they are NOW, and drift kids are paying there prices so they do get kinda expensive sometimes. But the 240 are cheaper and a real good platform to begin with. Another car people forget about is the Mazda Miata... RWD, Double wish Suspension (FC3S type), and a nice daily driver as well. And just to let you know about some of the sick sad stuff people do to them.... Ive seen one with an RB26DETT motor swap so yeah.... its scary fast.

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 05:06 PM
You think a Miata with a Skyline motor is sick, there are people that put supercharged V8's into Miata's. Now THAT is sick. Oh, and I mean sick as in badass.....lol.

Oddball 7
06-03-2003, 06:54 PM
Yeah turbo... Ive heard of that... but sadly enough i havent seen it yet :(

But yeah you can go nutty with a miata since its cheap and small :D

Dori Star
06-03-2003, 08:52 PM
go for tha miata.. they are right... and they do look sick...

SlEePeR-SeNtRa
06-03-2003, 08:56 PM
go for tha miata.. they are right... and they do look sick... yea but only if there are done right that a roll cage or bars and 16' yea i would get a miata over a 97 honda drop a 13b in it lol later

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 08:59 PM
I never really thought of a Miata as a drift car, more of a all out grip type of car. But I guess with a 50/50 (or close to it, I'm not really sure) weight distribution it would do pretty good. Yeah, so go with either a Miata or Corolla GTS.

SlEePeR-SeNtRa
06-03-2003, 09:03 PM
turbo rotary do you have a silver sec-gen rx-7

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 09:06 PM
Nope, I have a Turbo II 10th Anniversary Edition. Car has a all white paint scheme.

Turbo_Rotary
06-03-2003, 09:09 PM
Like this.

SlEePeR-SeNtRa
06-03-2003, 09:17 PM
okay nevermind but thanks neways

Anarx
06-05-2003, 11:34 PM
I say get a RX-7 no matter what gen trim level.. try to stay away from Base models with 4 lug rims unless it is whats called a Super Base witch doesnt have a sun roof *extremly rare* that is the only good base model.. otherwise get any RX-7 just understand with these cars its a bit steep of a learning curve but its a great car to learn on the car will train you as much as any teacher..

just understand that if the car gets away from you unless you know what you are doing you can completely loose it.. its easyer to do with a turbo model becuse of the sudden power change in the mid range..



BTW my name is Jess i frequent the Drift events been watching/chilling with the Mazdatrix guys at the events i drive a 88 Turbo II FC that needs a hella lot of work before i drag her out there..

:D see ya all around

Wickdmarz
06-06-2003, 07:13 AM
Hmm...Okay. So Corollas, RX-7s and miatas?? Hmm...

Dori Star
06-06-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Wickdmarz
Hmm...Okay. So Corollas, RX-7s and miatas?? Hmm... hahah- Corollas, RX-7s and miatas oh my...

DriftAdict
06-13-2003, 09:58 AM
What about like a 87 Nissan 200SX? Which in Japan they are considered Nissan Silvia S12... Recently I have been looking into those. You can swap SR20's into them. Some of them also come stock with (I think) 1.8 Turbo motor... They Look like the AE86's, they are RWD.... Im thinking getting one not sure yet though. Also their are alot of aftermarket suspension kits for them. So YEA...Let me know what you guys think

Dori Star
06-13-2003, 11:34 AM
i was concidering one of those too... for a while... they come with tha ca18det i think, or tha v-6 motor... but ive heard some good things about them...