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  • Screw all the Magazines!!!!

    You know what, I'm pritty tired of this who said what bull. Almost all of the articles ive seen have nothing to do with the true drifting world. The only ones that do, come from writers who have been with us at the track events and have spent the time after to hang out, have a few drinks, and really get the inside grasp of what we do and why we do it. They also get the dirt of what we dont like and have backed us up on those points.

    The best explaination I've read of drifting came in a Nopi Street article by Eddie Alterman, How Drifting Is Like Skareboarding.

    I dont really want to type out the whole thing so ill give a brief recap.

    Watching Pfeiffer sschool the professional racers in attendance reminded me of skateboarding and the way it changed in the 80's. Originally, skate competitions involved a bunch of preppy Moes doing rolling handstands for points in parking lots. But a group of surfers from the wrong side of town invaded these competitions, and began shredding the pavement like it was a wave. In the process they took skating from a novelty act about as extreme as square dancing to the sport it is today. The pivotal moment came when one of the skaters, Tony Alva, breached the lip of a suburban swimming pool and got skateboarding's first "air".
    Drifting to me anyway, is like that moment when skating reached past the edge of the pool and into the California sky, when it went from earthbound to airborne, from terrestrial to extraterrestrial. Aside from opening all sorts of new avenues in tunning, drifting is expanding the definition of our scene. Alex Pfeiffer embodies the drifting revolution. While the old-school road racers were trying to figure out where the apex was, Pfeiffer just let it all hang out. In skateboarding terms, he wasn't doing handstands on the pavement; he was flying past the lip.



    I did leave out a bit but this pritty much sums it up for that article. I dont think of it as me (when it says Alex Pfeiffer), but all drifters who drive with that style, that kind of pushing the limits of what you and your car can handle. Our sport has moved so quickly and to a level that is being recognised by all but is not understood by many. Most of these articles and people talking about drifting really have no clue to what it is. We are also moved in different directions, by our competitions we try to do what the judges, spectators, and sponcers want to see. But when it comes down to it, we just want to have a good time and push our own limits to evolve our style, get into the california air, and move our sport forward.
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  • #2
    Sorry Guys about the long post but im just really tired of all the hype about these mag articles, tv coverage, video coverage. Take them all with a grain of salt, and dont let it change anything you do or how you feel.
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    • #3
      yea u do have a point because most every magazine copies off eachother, you see 1 car and next month its in 3 different magazines. Ya'll profs need to go out there and give the media more to cover. thery are still releasing pictures at irwindale and thats pretty old, but you have to admit that w/out these magazines nobody would know who you are or sponsor you and no offense alex, but did u have to post a magazine article about urself and skateboarding while saying screw all the magazines? Hell i used to think modified was the greatest, but after a subscription i realized that its really just a commercial with page numbers. Import racer had that drift mag, but haven't seen much from them since. most of us dont have the money for those great preformance parts they try to peddle. The one worth getting tho is called "TPR" and its a good technical mag, problem is it comes out quarterly, so it kinda sux. Everyone has cameras these days, we should be making our own videos.
      Last edited by OH240SE; 06-05-2004, 08:29 PM.

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      • #4
        To be fair this is a discussion forum, If someone bad mouths drifting, or drifters in a publication we will speak out against it on here.. And aparently it works, Rado said he was going to write a new colume explaining him self more clearly for example.

        We arent going to let these things change what we do but we will still discuss them. We even had a correction printed in the new york times about drifting, they messed up a few things. It is up to drifters to correct people who have misconceptions. And this is one of our many outlets to do so.

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        • #5
          i dont think you need to worry about any articles changing the way we think, and like NissanGuy said, the point of the forum is to discuss, so i decided to discuss my feelings on the article, it didnt change the way i felt about drifting or anything and im still out there to have fun

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          • #6
            i dont understand why you have a problem with that article. The guy obviousley reckons your pretty influential and your style is progressve, why rag on him if hes complimenting you.

            Drift is a business like everything else, to sell magazines your gonna need to hype things up, thats the way life is, no point in whinging about it...

            josh

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            • #7
              I could not agree more with what Alex said but the greatest thing about drifting is that it is so different from any other motor sport. I had never thought about drifting being like skateboarding but after reading alex's post I thought and he is dead on. The true drifting fans will always love drifting as long as the sport does not alienate them. I remember in the late 80's and early 90's skateboarding got huge. The sport blew up but the sport never alienated the true fan. Today skateboarding is still big but it has calmed down. The sport is big but it is because the true fan never left. Skating got big and everyone jumped on the wagon but the sport stuck with what made the true fan love it and the people that were just bandwagon fans left but the loyal fans are still there today. It is also like skateboarding in the fact that most fans in some way or another are ametuer drifters in there own right. You do not see many people at drift events that haven't at least tried to throw some sort of vehicle sideway. At the Formula D event in Atlanta I got to spend time with the mechanics talking about technical questions. Also walking around the pits I noticed alot of the drifters signing autographs and taking pictures wit the fans. There was one guy that would just walk around and shout the bull with all of the drivers. This guy was Alex. He did not have a big tent or pictures to autograph. He was just having a good time. I walked into one tent and he was there talking with a couple of the other drifters who were signing autographs. Alex just grabbed a drift well sticker and signed it. That afternoon while watching the competition Alex did just go out there and have a good time. he got one of the biggest cheer of the afternoon. Later on in the afternoon I saw one of the drifters and his 18 wheeler leave while the compitition was still going on. Then during one of the exebition runs a bunch the the drifters: Alex, Erine, Ken and some other guys who had already been beaten came out and gave the crowd a great show. This is what drifting is all about. Not going home early because you did not win but going out there when there is no championship or money on the line just to have fun and give the fans a show. It seems that the drifters the true drifters are the ones that are as much a fan of the sport as they are a participant of it. Just like skateboarding the guys get out there and have fun and cheer each other on and have a good time. Both of these sports seem to care about the fans and having a good time. Well that is enough about what I think.

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              • #8
                Ive been saying this for over a year now. All the mags jump on the drifting scene. I understand its to make money, but if you want to cover it, cover it in the right way.

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                • #9
                  Its all about selling out to the big wigs...thats life. Right now Drifting is by-far the "cashcow" of automotive motorsports, so make a buck while you can even if it goes against what you really believe the sports about. ...Wait, im not saying sellout your beliefs, but since your good at somthing thats "hot" and sells at the moment, might as well make the most of it instead of saying...."I wish I coulda,"

                  $$$$$$

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                  • #10
                    Read what he's saying D1rx7. He's not bagging on that article, he said that sums how he feels up best. Don't sound like he's whining at all to me. Why don't you pay a little better attn to what you read before you jump on him. Matter of fact, do you HAVE a D1 RX7 or is that just false advertising? Probably false.

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                    • #11
                      i just think its dumb for some one to write a article when they dont even know what drifting is and to have a person like that judging an event is stupid. they need real people that has been behind the wheel with alot of experience than they can talk. not some one that just reads a book to understand something... stupid people they just keep sticking their foots in their own mouth...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by A.YEN
                        i just think its dumb for some one to write a article when they dont even know what drifting is and to have a person like that judging an event is stupid. they need real people that has been behind the wheel with alot of experience than they can talk. not some one that just reads a book to understand something... stupid people they just keep sticking their foots in their own mouth...

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                        Your giving them too much credit.I doubt even a book was picked up.

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                        • #13
                          Well Said. However it is great that some guys in media do get it, and have followed drifting since the day they started their business. Of course I'm talking about Grip Video Can we all say FREE PLUG?

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                          • #14
                            ghostofduluth i meant no disrespect in my comments, and because its the internet its a little hard to gauge where some people are coming from when ure reading whats typed on a page... Fair call what youve said, but i dont know any of the american drifters from a grain of salt, but sometimes drifters put on this act, like what they do is above all the commercialism, when in reality, i bet most people would be stoked to have themselves spoken about like that in a magazine. I really dont know, just called it how i saw it...

                            as for the d1 rx7, im not like some of the dreamers on here my friend... you can have alook at my car www.pbase.com/d1rx7

                            should be arriving on thursday from yokohama, so ill be sure to keep you updated with pictures

                            josh.

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                            • #15
                              The points I was trying to make where that for the most part, the press we get does not portray what drifting is, or what really happens. Most of the articles are writen by people who have not tried nor understand drifting.

                              The article I posted was to give an example of a good one.
                              I spent a couple days in north carolina with Eddie for an automobile article, sideways chanllenge. In it there where 10 drivers from different backgrounds of motorsports.
                              I know Eddie used my name in that article, and that wasnt the point, he used it because he needs to have some kind of referance figure. To me it doesnt say Pfeiffer, it says....

                              While the old-school road racers were trying to figure out where the apex was, drifters just let it all hang out. In skateboarding terms, they werent doing handstands on the pavement; they are flying past the lip.



                              Drifting right now is not a cashcow, its far from it currently. But it is reciving mass amounts of publicity laitly. Hopefully we do get paid to be professional idiots, i would rater enjoy being out of dept one day. Hell, it would be nice to see a doctor or a dentist again. But Yes, by all this publicity it does give more oppertunites for us to get sponcerships and such and there are a few people that have things payed for or even make a little money. That was not my goal when i started drifting nor is it of most of the drivers.


                              I know this is a discusion forum about drifting, but it seems like we only discuss bad publicity and not any of the good parts.
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