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Old 10-15-2004, 03:05 PM   #1
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SELLING: 1988 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II














LOCATION: Woodstock, Georgia

Car: 1988 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II

1991 S5 J-Spec Short-block (Less than 40,000 ORIGINAL miles)

Swapped back to S4 Mechanical Oil-Metering Pump (MORE RELIABLE/EFFICIENT)

Garret T4 Turbo @ 10psi
(.70AR compressor housing)

Blitz Super-Sound Blow-Off Valve

3" Racing Beat Down-Pipe

3" Racing Beat Turbo-Back Exhaust

3" High-Flow Cataylyc Converter

Vortech Fuel-Pressure Regulator

RC Engineering Blue-Printed Balanced
Injectors

Walboro 255lph fuel-pump

Perma-Cool Electric Radiator Fan

G-Force ECU w/ FCD programmed

Bonez Pressure Plate

Short-Shifter w/ Momo shift knob

Tokico 5-Way Adjustable Struts

Eibach Pro-Line Springs

Cusco Front-Strut Bar

Endless Brake Pads

1991 S5 Tail-light conversion

1991 S5 Turbo II 16'' rims.

1991 S5 Interior (all carpeting and panels, but no electric seat-belts)

Sony Xplode Head-Unit

Rockford Fosgate Rear Speakers
(S5 door-panels don't match S4 door frames, so no front speakers)


^^^Previous owner dyno'd 287rwhp @ 14psi, on the older S4 motor^^^

-- The car itself is BEAUTIFUL!!!! I was just at the Atlanta-based meet at Andretti Speed Lab, and not only was I THE only rotary-powered car, but here I was, TURBO, fast as hell, and had people telling me they had never seen a nicer/cleaner FC before. The paint is less than 3 years old. Interior's almost flawless.

-- Why am I selling it? I DON'T WANT TO!!!! But, I've acquired myself some pretty bad debt with my family and paying that back is what's most important to me.

-- ONLY major problem with the car is the transmission. It has a bad 5th gear synchro, so that has to be delt with. Besides that, I THINK the previous owner had cut the wiring harness, so there's no where to plug up the o2 sensor, and I can't figure out how to plug up the stock oil-pressure gauge. Also, for some UNKNOWN reason, the turbo timer has stopped working. So, I have it set to show voltage from the battery. I've been told it's a common problem with the HKS Type Zero turbo timers...

*****I bought the car from Texas, and it has a Rebuilt Salvage title. I found out through CarFax that it was involved in some minor fender bender, and after having it inspected by Georgia Inspections, I was told the front bumper and side-panel were replaced.....WOW.....that's....nothing. It is however very important that you KNOW about the title, and be aware of your state's requirements for registration of a Rebuilt Salvage vehicle. Georgia owners need no worry.

***ALSO NOTE: All emissions equipment have been removed, and blocked off with a plate. I have a current Georgia inspections papers. Connections.

- PRICE: $6,000 (OR BEST OFFER...open to trades + cash)

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Old 10-15-2004, 03:14 PM   #2
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We met you at the drift meet and my homeboy Brandon took a test ride with you and said the car is FAST AS HELL. Sorry to hear that you have to sell it but good luck.
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Old 10-15-2004, 03:37 PM   #3
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hey would you consider trading for a Porsche 944, heres a link to the info
http://northwestnissans.com/board/sh...threadid=24563
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Old 10-15-2004, 03:38 PM   #4
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God, that's nice. If I didn't have a Turbo II already, I'd buy it like that. ::Snaps Fingers::. But wife says we got enough toys, and we need to sell one of them and buy something family-oriented.

That's what she thinks.
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Old 10-15-2004, 04:13 PM   #5
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haha, thanks guys for the positive feedback.

Truth is, as I said, I wouldn't sell it if I didn't have to.

But selling it, is the ONLY way I can pay off my family debt, tickets, and then FINALLY start holding onto my paychecks.

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Old 10-16-2004, 10:03 AM   #6
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Bump.


No love for the FC?
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:02 AM   #7
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OMG! That thing looks so sick and clean! Unfortunatly im in NJ. oh well, hope the car finds a good new home!
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Old 10-16-2004, 01:31 PM   #8
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Lovely cars these, use to own one and I regret selling it, make sure you know what your doing!
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Old 10-16-2004, 02:46 PM   #9
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Are those pics old? They look like S4 fuel rails, S4 water pump housing, S4 alternator, and a compressor upgrade on a stock hotside?
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Old 10-16-2004, 04:26 PM   #10
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Are those pics old? They look like S4 fuel rails, S4 water pump housing, S4 alternator, and a compressor upgrade on a stock hotside?
The shortblock of the motor is S5, which was bought having 35,000-40,000 original miles on it. Everything else is S4.

As stated, we switched out the S5's electrical oil-metering pump, back to the S4's more reliable/efficient S4 mechanical OMP. Every other manifold, and piece to the motor, is S4. When I bought the car, it had a blown S4 motor in it.

Now, my plan was to have swapped out EVERYTHING to S5, but when I bought the motor, I was ripped off, because I was supposed to get the motor with EVERYTHING, except a tranny. The guy took EVERYTHING off the motor before selling it to me, and so yeah, I was ripped off.

During the process of swapping out the OMP, I replaced every single seal and gasket on the motor. I'm not talking apex seals, I'm talking water pump seals, injector seals, etc.

No. You'd be surprised how big the turbo really is. Compressor housing ratio is .70AR, and I believe the exhaust housing is the same, it's quite big, and it's got some massive spool to it. I don't get full boost till 5,000 or so, but after 5,000, it's a whole different car. It's DEFINITELY an upgrade from stock. hah
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Old 10-16-2004, 08:23 PM   #11
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Ok, so it is a compressor upgrade mated to the stock hotside. If you don't full boost till 5000rpm with that, there is a serious problem.
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Ok, so it is a compressor upgrade mated to the stock hotside. If you don't full boost till 5000rpm with that, there is a serious problem.
Nothing about the turbo is stock, or came from the stock turbo. Full boost isn't till so late, BECAUSE of it's size. This turbo is capable of a solid 18psi safely, but of course, I'd never run that much on the stock seals.

So to answer your question, no. It's not just a compressor upgrade. The entire turbo w/ internal wastegate, are completely different. It IS Garret turbo, I was told it's a "T4", which I believe is capable of 18psi.
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Old 10-17-2004, 10:45 PM   #13
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Old 10-17-2004, 11:09 PM   #14
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if u were in CA i would so be all over that but, your not
im looking for a T2, cant find any.
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Old 10-18-2004, 12:57 PM   #15
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I got the car shipped from Texas in ONE day for $350..

There are web-sites where you put in the distance and the amount you want to spend, and it does sort of a process of elimination. This car would love a home in Cali. lol
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Old 10-19-2004, 01:51 AM   #16
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Nothing about the turbo is stock, or came from the stock turbo. Full boost isn't till so late, BECAUSE of it's size. This turbo is capable of a solid 18psi safely, but of course, I'd never run that much on the stock seals.

So to answer your question, no. It's not just a compressor upgrade. The entire turbo w/ internal wastegate, are completely different. It IS Garret turbo, I was told it's a "T4", which I believe is capable of 18psi.
Do you know what a compressor upgrade is? It is a bigger compressor wheel and/or compressor housing bolted into the stock CHRA, turbine wheel, and turbine housing. This way, you can keep using the stock turbo manifold and increase airflow, thereby, getting more hp. A relatively cheap way of getting more horsepower.

That said, because you are using the RB downpipe, which bolts to the stock turbine housing, your turbo therefore is a compressor upgrade on stock hotside... clearly noted by the pictures which show placement of the turbo in the same location as stock.

If your turbo does not get full boost until 5000rpm, then there is seriously something wrong with the car. Even most full standard T4 turbo's (any turbo using a T4 turbine inlet flange), except large frame T4's, will get full boost anywhere from 2800rpm - 4,500rpm (depending on which sub-family of T4's: T04B, T04E, T04S, T04R).

Also, stock 3piece/2mm apex seals have been known to take up to and over 30+psi boost as noted by several drag front-runners of the past.

Another thing, running just a compressor upgrade past 14-15psi boost is not a good idea for the life of the turbo, as the stock turbine housing and turbine wheel do not flow enough to offset the amount the compressor wheel flows. It will put a much greater side-load on the turbo.

Any turbo is capable of 18psi. How much boost a turbo can put out is up to the wastegate and the engine... not up to the turbo. However, what is up to the turbo is how efficient it is at that boost level. To find out how efficient a turbo is at a certain boost level, you would have to read and understand a compressor map.

Now the reason I'm pointing all of this out is that I don't want some kid buying your car and thinking rotary turbo's suck just because the car you sold to him will not hit full boost until 5000rpm. Rotary-powered cars already have a bad enough rep from the many idiots out there.
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Do you know what a compressor upgrade is? It is a bigger compressor wheel and/or compressor housing bolted into the stock CHRA, turbine wheel, and turbine housing. This way, you can keep using the stock turbo manifold and increase airflow, thereby, getting more hp. A relatively cheap way of getting more horsepower.

That said, because you are using the RB downpipe, which bolts to the stock turbine housing, your turbo therefore is a compressor upgrade on stock hotside... clearly noted by the pictures which show placement of the turbo in the same location as stock.

If your turbo does not get full boost until 5000rpm, then there is seriously something wrong with the car. Even most full standard T4 turbo's (any turbo using a T4 turbine inlet flange), except large frame T4's, will get full boost anywhere from 2800rpm - 4,500rpm (depending on which sub-family of T4's: T04B, T04E, T04S, T04R).

Also, stock 3piece/2mm apex seals have been known to take up to and over 30+psi boost as noted by several drag front-runners of the past.

Another thing, running just a compressor upgrade past 14-15psi boost is not a good idea for the life of the turbo, as the stock turbine housing and turbine wheel do not flow enough to offset the amount the compressor wheel flows. It will put a much greater side-load on the turbo.

Any turbo is capable of 18psi. How much boost a turbo can put out is up to the wastegate and the engine... not up to the turbo. However, what is up to the turbo is how efficient it is at that boost level. To find out how efficient a turbo is at a certain boost level, you would have to read and understand a compressor map.

Now the reason I'm pointing all of this out is that I don't want some kid buying your car and thinking rotary turbo's suck just because the car you sold to him will not hit full boost until 5000rpm. Rotary-powered cars already have a bad enough rep from the many idiots out there.
I had this LONG reply typed out, then forgot to quote you, came back to the page where I type my reply, and forgot to copy and paste..

but basically...

I don't appreciate you flaming my thread with your ASSUMPTIONS regarding my car.

If you want to COMMENT or ASK me a question about the car, then contact me first hand. But your good intentions of "letting buyers know" is all based again, on your assumption, and that's not fair.

I would appreciate it, if you have anything else to say, that you contact me personally. From there, I can investigate your questions myself, and if I find out anything, I am would gladly tell any potential buyer. Because: I have nothing to hide. I was told by the previous owner it's a T3/T4 turbo, but I've had people comment saying it's too big to be a T3/T4.

ANYWAYS. Please don't think I'm trying to insult you, or hide anything from any potential buyers, because I'm not. But I would just appreciate it if you'd contact me yourself with your questions, thoughts, concerns, rather than misleasing any potential buyer with your assumptions.

Thanks...and sorry.
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Old 10-19-2004, 07:31 PM   #18
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Clements speculations are educated. Something doesn't add up in the post. As far as your sale thread, conversing via pm would be a good idea.

If you are going to be selling something, please be factual with information, and aware of everything you are selling.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:52 PM   #19
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Bump.


OK....
Sorry. It is indeed a T3/T4 turbo.

Car's still for sale guys.
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:08 PM   #20
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iii kinda hate this "know it all"s lol...its is a nice car.. and regarding 4 whut its under the hood ,sounds nice... yo FC lovers heres your chance...
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Old 10-23-2004, 02:10 AM   #21
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Bump..

Just fixed the electrical problem. It was the turbo timer.

Gonna try to have the door looked at within the next week.

Man..

So many rotary-haters out there..

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Old 10-25-2004, 10:09 PM   #22
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Blah.

Got a guy who came and looked at the car.

Offered a solid $5,500.

No one else out there wants a nice 12 second FC?

I see how it is..

Rotary haters.

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Old 10-25-2004, 10:20 PM   #23
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we're not hating on rotaries. we either
A.) don't have money to buy it
B.) too far, and don't want pay for shipping
for the most part
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:28 PM   #24
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we're not hating on rotaries. we either
A.) don't have money to buy it
B.) too far, and don't want pay for shipping
for the most part
That's understandable.

I actually had the car shipped from Texas within one day, for $350. There are web-sites where you put in how much you wanna spend, and the destination, and it'll search through multiple companies that are offering to ship a car within that budget. That's how I was able to get that deal.

Ya know what kind of confuses me though? How people who just pop an SR20 into a 240SX, bolt on some exhaust, and then charge people $6,000.

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IF I HAD THE CASH IT WOULD BE MINE.
THIS IS CLEANEST CAR I`VE SEEN ALL DAY.

BUMP,BUMP,BUMP!
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