drifting in japan, 1st mods?

[ZeroGripS13]

i was wondering what the majority of people (in japan) do to there cars first when trying to get into drifting ...like after you bought the car whats the first mods you guys go for???

thanks

[MongolDrifter]

Suspension!!!!

[driftersil80]

NO! Limited Slip Differential (LSD), then suspension. You CANNOT !no matter what! drift competitively without some kind of limited slip differential. Some people will debate this....but trust me, it is NECESARRY. The next step is to get coilover suspension. That is all you will need to get started drifting. After you improve, I would get into the suspension a little more. You can add some power mods but you will not NEED power. There are people who drift 130ps AE86s COMPETITIVELY in Japan with just suspension mods and LSD. They are proof that crazy power isnt necesarry. NE WAYZ enough ranting.......

[hatebbobbarker]

LSD definitely, the suspension

[D1 DRIFTER]

just git-r done! drift! practice practice practice!BUT i woulndt practice to much without have a properly set up car you tend to get bad habits from a bad set up!

[ZeroGripS13]

ok now let me ask this.. i am looking into the first big step into making my car more geared toward drifting but it is still ym daily driver..what type of lsd would u suggest for a novic drifter who daily drives his car???do u think a vlsd would work??(is it really a big improvement from open diff??)

[driftersil80]

Get a KAAZ 1.5 way LSD. Info found at www.kaazusa.com

[Stannyboy]

if your in japan I believe if your getting a s13, 14 or 15 it comes with a vlsd. that will work for you since your starting off. Once you get the hang of it and want a stronger bite upgrade to a clutch type lsd. I would do suspension, and a seat to start off with. If you were buying a us s13,14 then i would say suspension, seat, and lsd. Most importantly have fun, be safe.

[ZeroGripS13]

i dont live in japan.. i just wanted to see how they do things..was interested :P ...anyone drift a 1.5way...i know it would work and work good but is there a big difference between 1.5 and 2 way (i know the difference but never driven either of em)


ps. i dont think s15 comes with a vlsd its a helical lsd.

[ZeroGripS13]

does kaaz make a 1.5way for s13..also where can i buy cusco and tomei and kaaz lsd??? thanks (more worried about finding cusco and tomei since everyone sells kaaz..)

[Stannyboy]

I'm sure most shops can order them

[dreamdrivedrift]

im nearly 100% sure kaaz makes 1.5 way lsds for S13s

[driftersil80]

Yea im sure too. Oh and for daily driving GET THE 1.5 WAY!!!! If you get a 2 way, stuff like parallel parking is supposed 2 be almost impossible. But still, I wouldnt personally know because Ive never driven a car w/ a 2 way.

Yeah they do have 1.5's but for a novice and if you dont wanna spend the big bucks just pick up a j30 or z32 diff and have fun with that.

[ZeroGripS13]

i appreciate all your help. and thanks
everyone

problem with j30 diff is i dont have abs so id have to get an abs driveshaft and i already bought a driveshaft for my 5spd conversion thats not abs ..im not buying another drive shaft lol..

[hatebbobbarker]

Originally Posted by driftersil80

Yea im sure too. Oh and for daily driving GET THE 1.5 WAY!!!! If you get a 2 way, stuff like parallel parking is supposed 2 be almost impossible. But still, I wouldnt personally know because Ive never driven a car w/ a 2 way.

whoever told you they cant parralel park with a 2 way is an idiot, never talk to them again (your ok, because you admited you dont know). ive been daily driving my 2 way since december and ive long since gotten useto the noise and clunk, but I could always parallel park even the day I got it.


I dont know why such myth surrounds 2 way lsds, everyone was trying to discourage me, but when i realized no one discouraing me had ever had a 2 way lsd, I told them to F off and bought one.

[driftersil80]

Nice.........anywayz.....I guess you should get a 2-way then!

[drunkcarlos]

you know what the first thing most people over here in japan do/or should do instead of dropping all their money on a seat, sus and diff only to replace their motor 3 weeks later cause they rushed in...

BASIC MAINTAINANCE... before any of that other stuff... fix the oil/exhaust leaks, change the fluids, bushings, etc... make sure your car is ready to go play first....

then its personal preference which way you go from there...

[ZoltecRules]

Another consideration on the LSD:

I've seen some cusco's that you can switch between 1.5 and 2 way on the rebuild. Saw one for sale here:

http://www.projectnissan.com/shoppin...&idproduct=149
Anyone know if this is for real?

[sdtouge]

i believe cusco is now making them to where you can change betwen 1 1.5 and 2 way by turning sometihng on the pumpkin. sick, probably alot of $ tohugh

[ZoltecRules]

Originally Posted by sdtouge

i believe cusco is now making them to where you can change betwen 1 1.5 and 2 way by turning sometihng on the pumpkin. sick, probably alot of $ tohugh

Yeah but switching between 1.5 and 2 for less than 900 bucks? That seems too good to be true...

[hatebbobbarker]

hahah its not that new, pretty standard now, its gotten quite easy to switch from 1.5 to 2 way

[Buddyworm]

Originally Posted by D1 DRIFTER

just git-r done! drift! practice practice practice!BUT i woulndt practice to much without have a properly set up car you tend to get bad habits from a bad set up!

Could you please elaborate on that a bit? I've always figured that if you learned to kick it out on a stock setup (ie: not optimal for drift) then you'd develop better habits because you'd have a harder time getting the tail out from the get-go.

B-Wurm

[D1 DRIFTER]

well see thats where it can go both ways... myself learned on a sr powered car with suspension no lsd which in my case taught me to drive faster and harder in order to maintain a slide with decent angle and speed now that i welded my diff its way easier but i can still go just as fast but i dont always have to be hard on the throttle to have fun! but then you can always pick up back habits such as e braking when unnessecary liek i did due to only being a one tire fire i used my e brake to adjust the car now with a diff i can use throttle input and better steering input to adjust to the situation

Riley Cahill

[sdtouge]

Originally Posted by driftersil80

Yea im sure too. Oh and for daily driving GET THE 1.5 WAY!!!! If you get a 2 way, stuff like parallel parking is supposed 2 be almost impossible. But still, I wouldnt personally know because Ive never driven a car w/ a 2 way.

have you ever even driven a car lol?


2way is easy. its nothing. i have one and i can paralel park it no probem. its harder if its on a hil because oyu kinda have to gas it a little and itll try to lock up but you get use to it.