not enough HP!

Dirty85 · 03-22-2004, 09:47 PM

so i was driving my car around my favorite road and started trying to get her to drift to get it to get going at all i had to flick it dangerously hard i think i need more HP to get the back wheels out
or stiffer suspension

but i think its my glorius 100HP coming out of my rotary

does good in first and second

car is made for a go kart track

CRASHDRIVE · 03-22-2004, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty85
so i was driving my car around my favorite road and started trying to get her to drift to get it to get going at all i had to flick it dangerously hard i think i need more HP to get the back wheels out
or stiffer suspension

but i think its my glorius 100HP coming out of my rotary

does good in first and second

car is made for a go kart track

I have atleast 100hp. And I can drift fine with my FC

What specs are yours?

theflatlander · 03-23-2004, 11:26 AM

yeah, i could drift my FC when it was stock plus clogged cats so i don't see why you'd have a problem unless you're running some wide sicky tires in the rear.

nissanguy_24 · 03-23-2004, 01:42 PM

Its not about power. If you cant spin the wheels with power then transfer some weight. um YO

May i sugest enter the corner extra fast, tap the brakes hard to transfer it to the front when turn. It may not even take any power to get it sideways with that technique.

Dirty85 · 03-23-2004, 01:53 PM

see i could flick it into a corner like that but im drivng an FB
so it has snap over steer and 4 tunr lock to lock steering
if im not in control of the car i will wreck

nissanguy_24 · 03-23-2004, 02:18 PM

practice somewere you can get alot of speed up safely and practice tail braking.

SilverGhost · 03-23-2004, 06:52 PM

this is a great technique....i foigured that out, and its alot easier on your motor/tranny, just make sure you have good brakes up front, and brake drifitng isnt that hard (considering we are talking about drifting here, an alrready challengng motorsport).

and with this move you will also keep great grip upfront and front tire grip = control = not crashing

go have some more fun man!!!

Misthael · 03-23-2004, 06:59 PM

I drive an '85 Rx-7. I've drifted it just by applying the brakes on an off ramp. I think I was going 55mph. Just pressed on the brakes too hard when I was turning but I went with it. I don't think you need more hp. I'd rather have better susp. than more hp, but hp is cheaper right now than susp. You and I are the only ones with FBs as far as I know. Just have fun and be safe. Braking drift is fun. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

soultron · 03-23-2004, 08:43 PM

chevette = 60hp.

100hp would scare me.

scare me into drifting more.

nissanguy_24 · 03-23-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Misthael
I drive an '85 Rx-7. I've drifted it just by applying the brakes on an off ramp. I think I was going 55mph. Just pressed on the brakes too hard when I was turning but I went with it. I don't think you need more hp. I'd rather have better susp. than more hp, but hp is cheaper right now than susp. You and I are the only ones with FBs as far as I know. Just have fun and be safe. Braking drift is fun. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yeah i did that by mistake in the rain before i actualy learned it. I had to find a big open area to practice it because the speeds it took me to learn it. Of course im abit better now. lol

Misthael · 03-23-2004, 09:19 PM

Mine was completely accident on dry smooth no rocks/sand pavement. Good stuff. Left some smoke.

Hachi Kid · 03-24-2004, 09:33 AM

HP is not needed to drift. about right now, Ueo is considered the top drifter in the D1GP and he has about 180HP. sure it is a lot compared to your guys cars, but compared to other D1GP car where HP does not dip below 300HP, it is proof power doesn't matter. as long as you have enough to spin the tires.

if you can't get the rear end out you can a) put crappy tires or up the air pressure in the back tires(try to make the contact patch less somehow) or b) get better.

rock.

dae · 03-24-2004, 06:46 PM

ueo is not considered the best drifter in d1 right now and there quite a few cars in d1 under 300hp...

TP | sil-beer · 03-24-2004, 09:49 PM

one car has 100!!

Hachi Kid · 03-29-2004, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dae
ueo is not considered the best drifter in d1 right now and there quite a few cars in d1 under 300hp...

from what I heard, yes he is. show me proof that he isn't please.

rock.

Drift For Food · 03-29-2004, 12:00 PM

Yep, braking drift is a pretty safe way to initiate a drift. The rear end comes out smoothly and can be controlled by braking strength. If you're having a hard time to get the car to drift, brake into the corner and feint a little, just a slight out and a quick flick in. You can feint while braking or start it just before. Just flick in when you start braking. This will both throw the rear end out plus move the weight off the rear tires. This should get any car to drift. Then just floor it and countersteer. With 100hp, you'll probably have to hold the gas to the floor and keep it there until you exit the corner. If you let off, it will catch. If you feel it catching a little, just steer a touch more into the corner. If it's spinning out on you, let off the throttle for a second and the rear end will catch a little. You can just counter steer more too. If all else fails, let it full lock and brake hard. The car should come to a halt at whatever angle you were sliding. Just get quick with the steering. If the rear end catches fast, you'll have to get used to straighten out the wheel quickly. It's helpful to be smooth with your actions. Don't feel so bad, most cars are 3-4 turns lock to lock. My old Ragner is 8, yes, 8 turns, quick hands, quick hands, lol.

03-22-2004, 09:47 PM	#1
Dirty85 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 75	not enough HP! so i was driving my car around my favorite road and started trying to get her to drift to get it to get going at all i had to flick it dangerously hard i think i need more HP to get the back wheels out or stiffer suspension but i think its my glorius 100HP coming out of my rotary does good in first and second car is made for a go kart track

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03-23-2004, 11:26 AM	#3
theflatlander Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Dakota Posts: 393	yeah, i could drift my FC when it was stock plus clogged cats so i don't see why you'd have a problem unless you're running some wide sicky tires in the rear.

03-23-2004, 01:42 PM	#4
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	Its not about power. If you cant spin the wheels with power then transfer some weight. um YO May i sugest enter the corner extra fast, tap the brakes hard to transfer it to the front when turn. It may not even take any power to get it sideways with that technique.

03-23-2004, 01:53 PM	#5
Dirty85 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 75	see i could flick it into a corner like that but im drivng an FB so it has snap over steer and 4 tunr lock to lock steering if im not in control of the car i will wreck

03-23-2004, 02:18 PM	#6
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	practice somewere you can get alot of speed up safely and practice tail braking.

03-23-2004, 06:52 PM	#7
SilverGhost touge sleepy-eye 180sx Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: CO Posts: 964	this is a great technique....i foigured that out, and its alot easier on your motor/tranny, just make sure you have good brakes up front, and brake drifitng isnt that hard (considering we are talking about drifting here, an alrready challengng motorsport). and with this move you will also keep great grip upfront and front tire grip = control = not crashing go have some more fun man!!!

03-23-2004, 06:59 PM	#8
Misthael Operation 12A>13B Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 357	I drive an '85 Rx-7. I've drifted it just by applying the brakes on an off ramp. I think I was going 55mph. Just pressed on the brakes too hard when I was turning but I went with it. I don't think you need more hp. I'd rather have better susp. than more hp, but hp is cheaper right now than susp. You and I are the only ones with FBs as far as I know. Just have fun and be safe. Braking drift is fun. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

03-23-2004, 08:43 PM	#9
soultron Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Willy NC. Posts: 1,059	chevette = 60hp. 100hp would scare me. scare me into drifting more.

03-23-2004, 09:19 PM	#11
Misthael Operation 12A>13B Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 357	Mine was completely accident on dry smooth no rocks/sand pavement. Good stuff. Left some smoke.

03-24-2004, 09:33 AM	#12
Hachi Kid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 163	HP is not needed to drift. about right now, Ueo is considered the top drifter in the D1GP and he has about 180HP. sure it is a lot compared to your guys cars, but compared to other D1GP car where HP does not dip below 300HP, it is proof power doesn't matter. as long as you have enough to spin the tires. if you can't get the rear end out you can a) put crappy tires or up the air pressure in the back tires(try to make the contact patch less somehow) or b) get better. rock.

03-24-2004, 06:46 PM	#13
dae boro hachiroku driver Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: on top of a hill in the east bay Posts: 340	ueo is not considered the best drifter in d1 right now and there quite a few cars in d1 under 300hp...

03-24-2004, 09:49 PM	#14
TP \| sil-beer Guest Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bay side slide Posts: 265	one car has 100!!

03-29-2004, 12:00 PM	#16
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	Yep, braking drift is a pretty safe way to initiate a drift. The rear end comes out smoothly and can be controlled by braking strength. If you're having a hard time to get the car to drift, brake into the corner and feint a little, just a slight out and a quick flick in. You can feint while braking or start it just before. Just flick in when you start braking. This will both throw the rear end out plus move the weight off the rear tires. This should get any car to drift. Then just floor it and countersteer. With 100hp, you'll probably have to hold the gas to the floor and keep it there until you exit the corner. If you let off, it will catch. If you feel it catching a little, just steer a touch more into the corner. If it's spinning out on you, let off the throttle for a second and the rear end will catch a little. You can just counter steer more too. If all else fails, let it full lock and brake hard. The car should come to a halt at whatever angle you were sliding. Just get quick with the steering. If the rear end catches fast, you'll have to get used to straighten out the wheel quickly. It's helpful to be smooth with your actions. Don't feel so bad, most cars are 3-4 turns lock to lock. My old Ragner is 8, yes, 8 turns, quick hands, quick hands, lol.