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Old 04-06-2004, 09:45 PM   #1
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Power Steering when Drifting

Hey guys, when i'm drifting about 20-30 mins into the it my steering wheel gets a little funny, like it gets s little harder to turn em. does anyone have noticed or experienced this? is it because of all the hard steering and the steering fluid getting hot? will changing the ps fluid help?
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Old 04-07-2004, 07:51 AM   #2
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I guess it's possible. I have yet to experience any oddities with powersteering in any of my cars. There may be an issue of overworking the system, don't know. It could just be perception as well. Maybe your arms are getting tires or after an adrenalin rush, you'll feel a little weak. I don't know. If it's not you, then yes you may possibly be overworking the steering system, first I've heard of it though. Just make sure you have your fluid full. If it's low, you may have issues. I'm not to sure how the sideways forces affect it too. The fluid would go to one side, maybe making the system dry for a moment, again not sure, just guessing here. Alieviating this would be to make sure the level is full.

Maybe someone else can help you out a little more.

Oh, what car too? The specific car may be prone to certain issues like power steering problems or something. You can check it out at autos.msn.com You can look up your car and check reviews & reliability. You can also search online for anything people have written about it. The powersteering system may just be weak in general. See what you can find out.
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:34 AM   #3
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if it's giving you problems, convert it into manual steering . take all the power steering crap out. it saves weight, makes you stronger, and if your power steering craps out on you, it won't be hard to drive because you are used to it.










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Old 04-07-2004, 11:02 AM   #4
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I don't have power steering. Its really not that hard. Once your moving its hard to even notice its not there. Of course thats just my opinoin.
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Old 04-07-2004, 12:34 PM   #5
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I don't have power steering. Its really not that hard. Once your moving its hard to even notice its not there. Of course thats just my opinoin.
Well, sometimes people have small bands that they put around the resevoir to prevent spilling from the fluid getting too hot. When the wheel is allowed to spin in your hand on a power steering system, that fluid has to go somewhere. also during high revving that pump is getting spun very fast for extended periods of time. Not saying the pump can't handle it, but while the pump is generating pressure (or the ability to create pressure) the fluid is being forced through the system by the rack (when your wheel can turn with the car, say, when you choko dori or switch for the next curve). If you remove the system it might alleviate this somewhat, but depending on the car you have it may make it a bit unwieldy on low speed maneuvers (parking etc). If you do decide to remove the system, don't just pull the belt!!! Drain the fluid too or at least hook both ends of the line to the resevoir so it can push the fluid out someplace. Being a hydraulic type of fluid it's not designed to compress and it will be harder to steer with the fluid in a closed system than it would be if it were totally empty.
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Old 04-07-2004, 03:26 PM   #6
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Rack & Pin

Well I am runnin' my Sh1t on old Rack And Pins.
Sure power is nice if you need to turn sharp when you are sitting still or going vary slow but like this guy said above there really isn't any difference from Pow Or Pin when you are going Fast.
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Old 04-14-2004, 06:09 PM   #7
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*Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* rack and pinion is a luxery
try recpricating ball steering
IT JUST PLAIN SUCKS *Censored**Censored**Censored*

i can move the steering wheel about 2 inches each way b4 it even moves the tires :X

they make a rack and pinnion kit to replace it but i loose turnin radius !!! whyTF would i want that?
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Old 04-14-2004, 07:21 PM   #8
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Re: Power Steering when Drifting

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Originally posted by MongolDrifter
Hey guys, when i'm drifting about 20-30 mins into the it my steering wheel gets a little funny, like it gets s little harder to turn em. does anyone have noticed or experienced this? is it because of all the hard steering and the steering fluid getting hot? will changing the ps fluid help?


are u hearing any "winding-down nosie" if you are your power steering my be going out, check the fluid levels, make sure you have no leaks, or i you want to rough it and fight the wheel like no other in low- 0 speeds go with what others say and go power-steering-less, lol...good luck
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:40 AM   #9
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hachi Kid
[B]if it's giving you problems, convert it into manual steering . take all the power steering crap out. it saves weight, makes you stronger, and if your power steering craps out on you, it won't be hard to drive because you are used to it.



Hear me and hear me well " YOU NEED POWER STEERING". I say this from expiernce. When I bought my miata the A/C was busted so they took off the power steering band that is also hooked up to the A/C. I Drifted in it for a long time (well tried to anyway) and believe me it was real hard. I got the hang of it but it took much effort not to kick my car. One day I just thought to myself that how I just dont take out the A/C compressor and hook the power steering directly to the engine. And it worked. Not only is the steering improved a lot but drifting in it is a lot easier. I feel like I can go completey sideways and hold it for a long time with out losing control or spining out. Without the power steering you wont be able to countersteer as fast and that will be hard on your progress.
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Old 04-19-2004, 01:22 PM   #10
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meh

I think it depend on what type of car has the Rack & Pin.
My car turns tight as can be where on other cars (even though it's R&P) might not turn as sharp.

As for turning the Wheel quickly, Get a smaller steering wheel.
You want to get around the wheel quick as possible so you can counter steer.

Simple as that Ladies and Germs
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