"DRIFT TRUCK" Im gonna Do It!!! Goods and Bads?

SlideRoadster · 07-17-2003, 01:13 AM

Ive lost many hours of sleep, thinking of what it would be like to have a driftin-mini truck. i can see it all now...

a Nissan Hardbody 95-96 with a SR-20DET black top under the hood.... slam it down with all the driftin-fixins.... a crazy "cab to bed" Role cage and an IRS setup in the rear... R34 rear tail lights and S-13 front 3-projectors flush into the face of the truck.... anybody feelin me? how bout some feed back im actually finally startin this project and just wanna know how itll go over fan wise. i belive itll drift well with a little weigh balancin hmm we'll see...
Thrill
to be continued

7akumi X · 07-17-2003, 02:45 AM

Hey there,
I think its GREAT your doing something different, those lights outa be sikness, both of em. Although I cant QUITE envision them but i think it outa be sweet. For those of you who dont know what a Hardtop looks like. I dont know if thats the year you thought about...I would have done it with an F-150 or a or that popular dodge truck, name slips me by. I guess thats why were all different people huh ? lol Good luck man..

PS: To really hang the back end out, slam some sandbags in there!!! Easy weight disribution.

JonnySlick · 07-17-2003, 10:18 AM

yeah me and my buddy have toyed with the idea of a drift truck too. there's a guy in cally w/ a rodeo who drifts it....

anyway, i like the idea of a f150 or ford ranger. hardbody is cool too though w/ the sr swap.

SlideRoadster · 07-17-2003, 01:32 PM

i think a F150 is too big... the ranger may work, but on the topic of american trucks the S-10 would be the best choice... there have been a few cases were people have put IRS systems from an RX7 in the s10... and a V8 swap aint hard tah do in the s10

do they have any sick mini-trucks in Japan, that we dont have? cause ill probably start this project when i go there in sept.

Dori Star · 07-17-2003, 02:33 PM

dont steal my ideas, im doing tha sil80 truck... but first, i gotta find a donor body...

neone?

beuler?

...hahah

jm, goodluck...

JonnySlick · 07-17-2003, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlideRoadster
i think a F150 is too big...

that's the whole point....like drifting the big 4 door sedans in japan. big things are cool to see sliding sideways (harder to control, but very cool)

.

SlideRoadster · 07-17-2003, 09:42 PM

hmm yah got a point... but if that were the case id use a Dakota with a mag V8 the Crew Cab even no that would be coo/ and ridiculous at the same time... i still like the mini truck idea....

Thrill

CrazyHawaiian · 07-18-2003, 03:58 AM

It would look cool...but .. no. Sorry. Even with everything you mentioned the weight distribution would be so off it would be dangereous. Imagine understeering into every turn no matter what. Not fun.

J-BloodAE86 · 07-19-2003, 09:04 PM

plus, id be really 'spensive, you'd have to make all the parts custom. Id probably be cheaper just to convert the back of a "drift" car into a truck bed. I've seen it done before on 86s and on a sileighty thar competes in D1

SlideRoadster · 07-20-2003, 01:34 PM

im pretty sure yah itll be expensive, but hey i already have a fabricaion sponser lined up...
i think we got enough room to move the engine back a good deal. change the caster and mount the fuel Cell back a good deal... and with an IRS setup... and heavy mufflers haha i think i could swing it pretty decent..
Thrill

J-BloodAE86 · 07-20-2003, 02:44 PM

ic ic, with sponsoring you could pull it off, supposedly the wieght distrubution of a pick up isn't that bad for drifting because it gives less wieght over the wheels, resulting in less traction

JonnySlick · 07-20-2003, 09:02 PM

anything is possible with money, time, blood, tears, and money....if you have pleanty of that, i say go for it!

Statik · 07-21-2003, 10:52 AM

Hmm, THe setup doesnt seem hard but chassis tunning will be a PIA, Only real difficulty i see is picking the spring rate for the rear. Basicallt to soft and the rear will roll to much, and to stiff on such a light rear the backend will jump off of every imperfection. On smooth tracks and parking lots its easy but at tracks like irwindale the transistion from the embankment to the center section will be a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*. Well anyway heres my take, Find a wrecked S13 and cut the rear subframe out. I mean everything take about from the mid trunk to where the back seats, leave off the fenders and stuff though just be sure to get all of the suspension mounting points. Take you Nissan bed and cut it out. Place the S13 rear cut in the bed and center the axles into the harbodies fender openings. Measure it out so that all of the S13 suspension components sit at factory height. From there have your welder build the upper shock mounts at the S13 height in the hardbody bed. Layout the new sheet metal bed and reinforce it where the subframe connectors are going to mount, You may need to weld extensions onto the trucks chassis for this (not sure as pictureing this in my head.). The Sr20 swap is easy as its the same KA block from the 240. Will probably need to order a custom drive shaft as i doubt the stock one will fit. Nice this is if you do it that way it will be cheaper because you can use S13 suspension components on the rear giving you a wide variety of shock and spring combos to get the spring rates right. If you want you can do the same thing by measuring the distances in the suspension components, but you would still have to buy all the Suspension pieces to use the S13 IRS. Thats why buying a S13 rear clip is easiest.

Statik
I would walk through that visually though as i dont have a S13 nor Hardbody here in front of me.

SlideRoadster · 07-27-2003, 11:40 PM

took my idea outta my head idnt yah haha...well the idea i had is similiar, im workin on a tube frame for the back half in which i plan to incorporate shocktowers and mounts from a familiar car like the s13 or similiar... which will make it easy to switch and replace parts and rearends.... so along those lines, dont wanna make the thing difficult to deal with.

well here is my exterior idea... http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...iftTruck_2.jpg
http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...iftTruck_1.jpg
a rough sketch, drawn crudely with a ballpont pen.. but yah get the idea..
Thrill

grr anybody know a descent hosting site.... sorry yah gotta copy and paste...

07-28-2003, 04:42 AM

have you thought about the leaf spring setup in the rear of those things? Not the greatest. Other factors as well. Just think deep thoughts, and realize how much money it will cost you just to be different, then get whooped by a regular 240 with a third of the money invested, at a drift event.

SlideRoadster · 07-28-2003, 10:56 PM

well like i always say, its not the car its the driver.....

leaf springs are out of the question, read the other post and youll see what track im on...

im sketchin up the rear suspension blue's and for the price i can pick it up i think the only "abnormal expense" will be the exterior mods and front suspension... the rest is just about along the lines of a S13 full conversion SR20 and all... plus originality means alot to me, and the people who see it.

"when I have good idea, i dont like tah let alittle thing like money get in my way. nothin will ever happen that way... haha"
~Thrill

"write that down"

late thrill

driftxtreem · 12-12-2003, 09:47 PM

I think allot of you are underestamating the potential of this we have worked with this for some time now, and we have started some assembly. And I have seen a truck with IRS and it ran out smooth. I wont post our secrets but good luck.

Akira714 · 12-12-2003, 11:39 PM

I have a video of a guy converting an Skyline R32 into a pickup truck in Japan. He took it to the track and did some drifting.

Chas · 12-13-2003, 01:26 PM

Ive seen many r32's and 180's converted. Not my style, but cool for orignality.

baboon's a$$ · 12-13-2003, 03:55 PM

One of my friends put a supra 1jz single turbo in his tacoma. It could do some mad drifting cause the rearend is so damn light he could sling it all over the place. Sucks for emissions legality though.......damn treehuggers.

SilverGhost · 12-13-2003, 04:58 PM

my friend andrew owns a 94 nissan d21 hardbody and he has toyed around with the idea of drifting it but can't find a place to get coilovers to replace the leaf springs in the rear. Does anybody know of anybody or anyplace that supplies kits?

baboon's a$$ · 12-13-2003, 08:37 PM

you could always try a racing shop. It may cost you some $$$ to get them to fab it for you but you'd have more choices like using a penske or carrera setup with eyebolts at both ends of the shock. The question is where ya gonna put the top mount? the bottom one's easy you just put the bracket where the center of the leaf spring used to be. I think that would work, not positive though.

12-13-2003, 08:56 PM

I used to be into minitruckin'. I once saw an "underconstruction" truck in a magazine that had a 300zx running gear underneath the body. Wasn't finished but still cool.

Maybe try a cantelever rear end, through and between the rear fender wells. Body drop the bed floor some, or notch it out for the pumpkin? Molded rear tailgate/rollpan combo w/r 34 tails molded in???

You bet yur a$$ I'm feelin' it doggy!!

We have the technology, we can make it stronger, faster, better than any other mini on the planet...

baboon's a$$ · 12-14-2003, 10:32 AM

OH YEAH like some of the minitruckers got for thier bags or hydro setups but using coilovers intstead. that could definitely work. That's what you're talking about isn't it?

12-14-2003, 08:57 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking!!

Just use one of those premanufactured rear ends for minitruckin, they come with a step-notch and bag mounts, and also either 4-link or leaf spring. You'd just have to rig-up a linkage for the cantelevers, but so. Have the coilovers laying down horizontally across the bed. Oh man I can see it.

07-17-2003, 01:13 AM	#1
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	"DRIFT TRUCK" Im gonna Do It!!! Goods and Bads? Ive lost many hours of sleep, thinking of what it would be like to have a driftin-mini truck. i can see it all now... a Nissan Hardbody 95-96 with a SR-20DET black top under the hood.... slam it down with all the driftin-fixins.... a crazy "cab to bed" Role cage and an IRS setup in the rear... R34 rear tail lights and S-13 front 3-projectors flush into the face of the truck.... anybody feelin me? how bout some feed back im actually finally startin this project and just wanna know how itll go over fan wise. i belive itll drift well with a little weigh balancin hmm we'll see... Thrill to be continued

07-17-2003, 02:45 AM	#2
7akumi X Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 40	Hey there, I think its GREAT your doing something different, those lights outa be sikness, both of em. Although I cant QUITE envision them but i think it outa be sweet. For those of you who dont know what a Hardtop looks like. I dont know if thats the year you thought about...I would have done it with an F-150 or a or that popular dodge truck, name slips me by. I guess thats why were all different people huh ? lol Good luck man.. PS: To really hang the back end out, slam some sandbags in there!!! Easy weight disribution. Attached Images __________________ The sparks in the dark. The beat of the rising sun. Reputations are made and lost. -[)r\|ft-

07-17-2003, 10:18 AM	#3
JonnySlick Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Just Moved to Crossville, TN from Las Vegas ... wow what a change! Posts: 448	yeah me and my buddy have toyed with the idea of a drift truck too. there's a guy in cally w/ a rodeo who drifts it.... anyway, i like the idea of a f150 or ford ranger. hardbody is cool too though w/ the sr swap. __________________ Support your local drifter! www.DriftCentral.com www.TNDrift.com

07-17-2003, 02:33 PM	#5
Dori Star humping hachiroku's! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 468	moo... dont steal my ideas, im doing tha sil80 truck... but first, i gotta find a donor body... neone? neone? beuler? ...hahah jm, goodluck... __________________

07-17-2003, 09:42 PM	#7
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	hmm yah got a point... but if that were the case id use a Dakota with a mag V8 the Crew Cab even no that would be coo/ and ridiculous at the same time... i still like the mini truck idea.... Thrill Attached Images

07-17-2003, 01:32 PM	#4
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	i think a F150 is too big... the ranger may work, but on the topic of american trucks the S-10 would be the best choice... there have been a few cases were people have put IRS systems from an RX7 in the s10... and a V8 swap aint hard tah do in the s10 do they have any sick mini-trucks in Japan, that we dont have? cause ill probably start this project when i go there in sept.

07-18-2003, 03:58 AM	#8
CrazyHawaiian Sample One Time!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,276	It would look cool...but .. no. Sorry. Even with everything you mentioned the weight distribution would be so off it would be dangereous. Imagine understeering into every turn no matter what. Not fun. __________________ Forum for drifters, by drifters - www.driftingforums.com ...

07-19-2003, 09:04 PM	#9
J-BloodAE86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 576	plus, id be really 'spensive, you'd have to make all the parts custom. Id probably be cheaper just to convert the back of a "drift" car into a truck bed. I've seen it done before on 86s and on a sileighty thar competes in D1 __________________ [SOLD]1972 datsun 510 2 door L20b with dual weber 45s, custom exhaust, suspension mods, 16 inch N1 wheels 01 GTI VR6, 18 inch mille miglias, dropped on eibach springs, ABD intake, exhaust, etc.

07-20-2003, 01:34 PM	#10
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	im pretty sure yah itll be expensive, but hey i already have a fabricaion sponser lined up... i think we got enough room to move the engine back a good deal. change the caster and mount the fuel Cell back a good deal... and with an IRS setup... and heavy mufflers haha i think i could swing it pretty decent.. Thrill

07-20-2003, 02:44 PM	#11
J-BloodAE86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 576	ic ic, with sponsoring you could pull it off, supposedly the wieght distrubution of a pick up isn't that bad for drifting because it gives less wieght over the wheels, resulting in less traction __________________ [SOLD]1972 datsun 510 2 door L20b with dual weber 45s, custom exhaust, suspension mods, 16 inch N1 wheels 01 GTI VR6, 18 inch mille miglias, dropped on eibach springs, ABD intake, exhaust, etc.

07-20-2003, 09:02 PM	#12
JonnySlick Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Just Moved to Crossville, TN from Las Vegas ... wow what a change! Posts: 448	anything is possible with money, time, blood, tears, and money....if you have pleanty of that, i say go for it! __________________ Support your local drifter! www.DriftCentral.com www.TNDrift.com

07-21-2003, 10:52 AM	#13
Statik Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Where the Rotaries rotate Posts: 43	Hmm, THe setup doesnt seem hard but chassis tunning will be a PIA, Only real difficulty i see is picking the spring rate for the rear. Basicallt to soft and the rear will roll to much, and to stiff on such a light rear the backend will jump off of every imperfection. On smooth tracks and parking lots its easy but at tracks like irwindale the transistion from the embankment to the center section will be a CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensored. Well anyway heres my take, Find a wrecked S13 and cut the rear subframe out. I mean everything take about from the mid trunk to where the back seats, leave off the fenders and stuff though just be sure to get all of the suspension mounting points. Take you Nissan bed and cut it out. Place the S13 rear cut in the bed and center the axles into the harbodies fender openings. Measure it out so that all of the S13 suspension components sit at factory height. From there have your welder build the upper shock mounts at the S13 height in the hardbody bed. Layout the new sheet metal bed and reinforce it where the subframe connectors are going to mount, You may need to weld extensions onto the trucks chassis for this (not sure as pictureing this in my head.). The Sr20 swap is easy as its the same KA block from the 240. Will probably need to order a custom drive shaft as i doubt the stock one will fit. Nice this is if you do it that way it will be cheaper because you can use S13 suspension components on the rear giving you a wide variety of shock and spring combos to get the spring rates right. If you want you can do the same thing by measuring the distances in the suspension components, but you would still have to buy all the Suspension pieces to use the S13 IRS. Thats why buying a S13 rear clip is easiest. Statik I would walk through that visually though as i dont have a S13 nor Hardbody here in front of me. __________________ http://members.cox.net/bryantswells/kinetik_banner.jpg

07-27-2003, 11:40 PM	#14
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	took my idea outta my head idnt yah haha...well the idea i had is similiar, im workin on a tube frame for the back half in which i plan to incorporate shocktowers and mounts from a familiar car like the s13 or similiar... which will make it easy to switch and replace parts and rearends.... so along those lines, dont wanna make the thing difficult to deal with. well here is my exterior idea... http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...iftTruck_2.jpg http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...iftTruck_1.jpg a rough sketch, drawn crudely with a ballpont pen.. but yah get the idea.. Thrill grr anybody know a descent hosting site.... sorry yah gotta copy and paste... __________________ "Life is short, but talent is imortal!" ~Thomas~ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ite_Avatar.jpg www.driFTcluBS.com

07-28-2003, 04:42 AM	#15
Nightwalker Guest Posts: n/a	have you thought about the leaf spring setup in the rear of those things? Not the greatest. Other factors as well. Just think deep thoughts, and realize how much money it will cost you just to be different, then get whooped by a regular 240 with a third of the money invested, at a drift event.

07-28-2003, 10:56 PM	#16
SlideRoadster Now Rockin Roadster #2! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fussa, Japan Posts: 123	well like i always say, its not the car its the driver..... leaf springs are out of the question, read the other post and youll see what track im on... im sketchin up the rear suspension blue's and for the price i can pick it up i think the only "abnormal expense" will be the exterior mods and front suspension... the rest is just about along the lines of a S13 full conversion SR20 and all... plus originality means alot to me, and the people who see it. "when I have good idea, i dont like tah let alittle thing like money get in my way. nothin will ever happen that way... haha" ~Thrill "write that down" late thrill __________________ "Life is short, but talent is imortal!" ~Thomas~ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ite_Avatar.jpg www.driFTcluBS.com

12-12-2003, 09:47 PM	#17
driftxtreem Pimp daddy D Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 1,623	I think allot of you are underestamating the potential of this we have worked with this for some time now, and we have started some assembly. And I have seen a truck with IRS and it ran out smooth. I wont post our secrets but good luck.

12-12-2003, 11:39 PM	#18
Akira714 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 39	I have a video of a guy converting an Skyline R32 into a pickup truck in Japan. He took it to the track and did some drifting. __________________ http://www.dragonmodz.org/akira714/akisign.jpg

12-13-2003, 01:26 PM	#19
Chas Guest Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,566	Ive seen many r32's and 180's converted. Not my style, but cool for orignality.

12-13-2003, 03:55 PM	#20
baboon's a$$ Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: somewhere in GA Posts: 193	One of my friends put a supra 1jz single turbo in his tacoma. It could do some mad drifting cause the rearend is so damn light he could sling it all over the place. Sucks for emissions legality though.......damn treehuggers.

12-13-2003, 04:58 PM	#21
SilverGhost touge sleepy-eye 180sx Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: CO Posts: 964	my friend andrew owns a 94 nissan d21 hardbody and he has toyed around with the idea of drifting it but can't find a place to get coilovers to replace the leaf springs in the rear. Does anybody know of anybody or anyplace that supplies kits? __________________ For those who do not fear the mountain nor death, we have risen..... Team Hari'Kiri Why is it that drive through ATM's have braile on the keys??

12-13-2003, 08:37 PM	#22
baboon's a$$ Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: somewhere in GA Posts: 193	you could always try a racing shop. It may cost you some $$$ to get them to fab it for you but you'd have more choices like using a penske or carrera setup with eyebolts at both ends of the shock. The question is where ya gonna put the top mount? the bottom one's easy you just put the bracket where the center of the leaf spring used to be. I think that would work, not positive though.

12-13-2003, 08:56 PM	#23
Sideways_In_SD Guest Posts: n/a	Hey look...my 2 cents!! I used to be into minitruckin'. I once saw an "underconstruction" truck in a magazine that had a 300zx running gear underneath the body. Wasn't finished but still cool. Maybe try a cantelever rear end, through and between the rear fender wells. Body drop the bed floor some, or notch it out for the pumpkin? Molded rear tailgate/rollpan combo w/r 34 tails molded in??? You bet yur a$$ I'm feelin' it doggy!! We have the technology, we can make it stronger, faster, better than any other mini on the planet...

12-14-2003, 10:32 AM	#24
baboon's a$$ Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: somewhere in GA Posts: 193	OH YEAH like some of the minitruckers got for thier bags or hydro setups but using coilovers intstead. that could definitely work. That's what you're talking about isn't it?

12-14-2003, 08:57 PM	#25
Sideways_In_SD Guest Posts: n/a	Yeppers!! That's exactly what I was thinking!! Just use one of those premanufactured rear ends for minitruckin, they come with a step-notch and bag mounts, and also either 4-link or leaf spring. You'd just have to rig-up a linkage for the cantelevers, but so. Have the coilovers laying down horizontally across the bed. Oh man I can see it.

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