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Old 06-20-2004, 08:30 PM   #1
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red top sr20det 1/4 mile

i know this doesnt have to do with drifting but i wanna know what a rps13 runs 1/4 mile with the red top sr20det.
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:35 AM   #2
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i'll tell you in a couple weeks if you can wait that long
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:58 AM   #3
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Re: red top sr20det 1/4 mile

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i know this doesnt have to do with drifting but i wanna know what a rps13 runs 1/4 mile with the red top sr20det.
You really dont need to say "RPS13" with a sr20, because the P specifies a sr20det motor.. And R isnt nessisary really because the hatch and coupe sore similar it wont really have an effect on quarter mile times, However to answer your question you can expect high 14 second quarter mile times.
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Old 06-21-2004, 03:55 PM   #4
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This question is like asking what a Camaro with a LS1 will run... it's all down to the driver, tuning, traction, height above sea level, and weight.

Nissanguy is right... 14s.
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Old 06-21-2004, 07:01 PM   #5
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all you guys had to say was "slow"
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Old 06-21-2004, 07:17 PM   #6
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Slow is a subjective word, i dont consider 14 seconds in the quarter mile slow. Especialy for a drifter, seems like a decent speed to me. But GRid is right, there are many many factors, however 14s is a good aproximation.
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Old 06-21-2004, 09:03 PM   #7
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i agree that 14's is not slow...i mean top end lambos run like 16 in the 1/4....i will tell you guys how the RPS13 runs at 5k ft....when i come back from europe im going to go get a time trial done at our local stip..those times will include dyno charts, slalom, 1/4 mile, and 0-60.....i think that autoX times would be more valuable to a drift machine than 1/4 miles times...
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:49 PM   #8
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[B]i agree that 14's is not slow...i mean top end lambos run like 16 in the 1/4....
30 seconds with google gave me this, so i can't vouch for it, but...

http://www.dragtimes.com/browse3.php...i&carmodel=all


What's the going rate on an SR swap these days, if you do it yourself?

Last I knew it wasn't that cheap. The real measure isn't the time, it's the time vs. the money invested.

There's guys in canada running 11.06 with a 6,000 dollar scirrocco. Not only is that fast, it's cheap.
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:18 AM   #9
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Yeah 14 is slow... If you take the space shuttle to work.
Seeing as I have a Porsche 944S that runs high 14s.
Feels like a snail pulling a trailer. Wow, this is slower than the Chevette I used to drive... right...

Time for a grip on reality!
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Old 06-22-2004, 08:48 AM   #10
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Yeah 14 is slow... If you take the space shuttle to work.
Seeing as I have a Porsche 944S that runs high 14s.
Feels like a snail pulling a trailer. Wow, this is slower than the Chevette I used to drive... right...

Time for a grip on reality!
Time for you to man up and awnser my question or not respond. Have you ever been to a dragway? There's many inexpensive ways to run a 14 that are completely suitable for daily driving. I don't see what the connection between you haveing a 944 that runs 14's and me failing to grip reality is.

Upon seraching, I found 4700, 1500, 2150, 1699 all before shipping.

Like I said above, the real measurement of worth is speed vs. cost. If you can have an sr in your car running for 1500 or so bucks, then that's fairly worthwhile. If it's 4700, then it's not at all. My friend is right about 4,000 into a camaro (including the cost of the car) that's running high 12's, and CH will certainly tell you Camaros can be drifted with some success.

Anyway, no it's not mud slow. But it's not that quick either. Assuming I paid more around 1600, I wouldn't feel ripped off but I would sure be looking for some more ponies out of that thing.
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im just askin cuz that is what everyone does in my town....with their stupid civics...2 of them run high 13's tho....
there is nobody that likes drifting here...
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:30 AM   #12
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What does a stock one lap at Tsukuba?
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Old 06-22-2004, 08:47 PM   #13
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wow 14s thats not bad, the 3rd gen rx7 runs i thik 13.8 ish if ur a good driver, i can hit 13s easy now with my mods, i should be in the mid 12s, but i still havent mastered drag racing yet seeing as how its not very important to me, i just like to beat pple underestimating my "non reliable peice of junk" as they say
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Old 06-22-2004, 10:04 PM   #14
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i took my sr to the track and posted my fastest time of 14.825 @ 94 mph and slowest 15.3 @ 93 mph my sr redtop is completly stock all the way down to the side mount
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Old 06-22-2004, 10:43 PM   #15
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High 14s? maybe with a bad driver

I never really see bone stock sr swaped 240s, most have basic bolt ons, intake, down pipe, test pipe, exhaust

with those, and vlsd, my friend ran a 14.1 @97 2.1 60 stock boost.... now up that to 12 and he is in the 13s with just bolt ons
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High 14s? maybe with a bad driver

I never really see bone stock sr swaped 240s, most have basic bolt ons, intake, down pipe, test pipe, exhaust

with those, and vlsd, my friend ran a 14.1 @97 2.1 60 stock boost.... now up that to 12 and he is in the 13s with just bolt ons
I guess hes a bad driver... That or hes acruate.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:17 PM   #17
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do i have to show the time slip?? if you havent seen a bone stock sr swap come look at my car the only thing i have is a boost gauge stock intake, exhaust, intercooler, boost, ect everything i just wanted a baseline before the bolt-ons
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:33 PM   #18
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lets see the time slip I can calculate it and see how much Hp your makeing.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:36 PM   #19
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Man up? Sure thing padre. Been to a dragstrip many times, don't think I've been to a dragway in my life though... Must be one of those American / Canadian language differences. Failure to grip reality is thinking that a 14 isn't fast, I drive my car every day and I can't find a reason to have a car that runs anything faster. I can't fathom driving 150mph on the way to the grocery store... and running 13's in a drift car is not REALLY a neccesity anyhow. Don't think the judges factor in your 1/4 mile times. But if you insist on wasting copious amounts of gas so you can get to the red light before grandma can in her gremlin that 1/4 mile just can't come fast enough!

Are you looking for the clip or just the engine? Or the engine and tranny? You've left some ambiguity in your question. As the SR engines become more and more available to the united states the prices are getting more reasonable. Theres alot of stuff on Ebay for SR20's these range from 1500$ for the engine to $2800 for a Red Top Front clip... if you trust Ebay...

Other than that California has a moderate amount of importers who would be happy to take your money for a good engine or clip.
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give me a day or two ill have the slip on here
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Man up? Sure thing padre. Been to a dragstrip many times, don't think I've been to a dragway in my life though... Must be one of those American / Canadian language differences.
I guess that was sorta subliminal thing...I live right down the road from New England Dragway...hence, I think of it as "going to the dragway"...really more like "going to the Dragway".


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Failure to grip reality is thinking that a 14 isn't fast, I drive my car every day and I can't find a reason to have a car that runs anything faster. I can't fathom driving 150mph on the way to the grocery store... and running 13's in a drift car is not REALLY a neccesity anyhow. Don't think the judges factor in your 1/4 mile times. But if you insist on wasting copious amounts of gas so you can get to the red light before grandma can in her gremlin that 1/4 mile just can't come fast enough!
If you go to a dragstrip then you know 14 is slow. That's slow on street night never mind actual events.

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Are you looking for the clip or just the engine? Or the engine and tranny? You've left some ambiguity in your question. As the SR engines become more and more available to the united states the prices are getting more reasonable. Theres alot of stuff on Ebay for SR20's these range from 1500$ for the engine to $2800 for a Red Top Front clip... if you trust Ebay...
Engine, tranny, full harness, the works. I'm talking in the car running, probably with a fresh clutch and motor mounts and the other misc you should do when you have it all right in front of you. I'm looking for how much you are realisticly going to spend to do the swap and do it right.

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Other than that California has a moderate amount of importers who would be happy to take your money for a good engine or clip.
Useless, I drive a Volkswagen. One that is very slow, haha.

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Old 06-23-2004, 03:55 PM   #22
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If you drive a VW Fox you could shove an SR in that. That'd be a sleeper!
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If you drive a VW Fox you could shove an SR in that. That'd be a sleeper!
mk2 GTI.

There's a turbo fox kicking around up here i've heard. Someone's mk4 got eaten for lunch by it a week or two ago, ahahaha.

It's much easier to go G60 if you want factory boost in a VW. Bosche management and Japanese turbo motors go together like BBQ sauce and bannanas.


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I'm semi-looking for a 944 MAF, if you have one. It's plug and play with the VW setup and due to larger size doesn't really flow more air but provides better runability. A bunch of VW guys are playing with them, and I'd figure I'd give it a try. I dunno if 944 guys are like vw guys... I'm pretty tapped out right now, and I got one parts car on jackstands, 3 16v heads, a full interior, 22 vw wheels, and a ton of other junk

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17hrs left on

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=46098

I think it may be what your looking for.
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17hrs left on

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=46098

I think it may be what your looking for.
Yea, that's exactly it. Unfortunately, it's now unavailable and all bids are being cancled by the seller hahaha.

No biggie, I'm not like in need, just in like I just wondered if you had one hanging around.
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