FC Drifting Tips?

Cobra_R · 07-29-2004, 02:11 PM

I finally found a place to drift in my area and was wondering if anyone who drifts FC's could give me some tips before i start. I know the FC likes to grip so any tips on how to break lose would be appreciated.
thanks

twcfc3s · 07-29-2004, 02:44 PM

buy the rear toe eliminators...

ACDSupra7 · 07-29-2004, 08:33 PM

Yep

theflatlander · 07-30-2004, 10:59 AM

when i first started with my FC i would do a little feint with a clutch kick and never had a problem getting her sideway or holding the drift.

mranlet · 07-30-2004, 11:13 AM

Change the oil often, and make sure you don't overheat.

That's all I got, just get as much seat time as you can.

Do it!

turbo23 · 07-30-2004, 11:54 AM

Your gonna need speed, they love to grip, so make sure u have a pretty good entry speed. Rear toe elims. and of couse coilovers, sway bars, and camber links and ull be set!

Cobra_R · 07-30-2004, 12:20 PM

Cool thanks, yea i was thinking i'd probably do the feint plus clutch kick to get sideways, i figured that would work.

Raziel · 07-31-2004, 04:34 PM

Use the ebrake and get used to slideing around. Also doughnuts will help.

HX-50 · 07-31-2004, 04:52 PM

keep a bottle of coolant around, just in case... also everyone seems to think it's a hard platform to drift on, i seem to do halfway decent with it, oh and i'm sure you know that with that coolant you should keep a quart of oil around

turbo23 · 08-03-2004, 06:15 PM

pratice doing drift 360's clockwise and counterclock wise
that will help u learn throttle control. Then pratice some clutch kicks and ebrakes. Start with ebrakes, that will help u learn some weight transfer. Or some manji runs( thats a bunch of feint style drifts in a straight line)

nasty nate 7 · 08-04-2004, 12:04 AM

get good brake pads if you use ebrake a lot, everyone else explained what i was gonna say. stiffen chassis is very beneficial. and if you can, disable the abs(take out) youll learn better not to depend on it and you develop good pedal control

Heav3nzHell · 08-04-2004, 12:10 AM

hmmmmm wow everybody has so many different techniques. the way that i learned is by putting a cup of water in my portable cup holder and set that on the dash board. Works like a charm

. and seriously it does. hella hard but works like a charm

FC3SGTU · 08-11-2004, 08:06 PM

Drift it stock. Thats what I started off with, you need no coilovers or anything expensive unless you lack skill (no offense) I went out in a na at drift day and got it sideways, just clutch kick it or e-brake if your starting off, and btw this was 1st and 2nd gear all day so I didn't need mods to get it sideways, if your really concerned, buy front camber plates and toe eliminators and you'll definetly be able to get sideways, EVEN WITH OPEN DIFF.

-Andrew

SidewaysGts · 08-12-2004, 04:45 PM

If your jsut learning to drift learning on a stock platform is the best way to go. Softer suspension are much easier to learn on, weight moves around slower and stays there a bit longer- makes it much easier to experiment.. so you can tell when i do this- this is going to happen. etc.

As for toe eliminatxorz- dont bother with em. In my opinion the toe adjusting is one of the many great assets to the fc. It may make it a bit different to learn how to break traction with it still in place, but its not overly difficult and it doesnt really help your drift angle/control etc. Once you learn how to deal with it- its no problem at all. Whats so appealing about it is that the car will still be good for grip- and its great for drifting.
__

As for learning how everyone pretty much said the basics- Just get used to being sideways in general. big parking lots are a must for this. Experiment for you even attempt to upgrade anything. A good thing to do is get 2 cones and set them a fair distance apart- treat them as a "turn" and try to drift from one to the other.

I wouldnt do clutch kicking too much unless you hate your transmission- send a good jolt through it and its a godo way to break something. Hand brake is good to learn on- make sure you adjust it after so long or else it wont be working as well. High traction front tires and low traction back tires are great for learning as well. After you feel comfortable try a feint motion with braking- turn away then then hard into the turn, releasing the brakes just after the turn in.

One more thing to keep in mind- this was stated before but ya change your oil often. Make sure you use a good weight too, which kind of depends on your location (ie very hot- very cold). But rotaries eat oil more then piston engines do, they almost over use the oil imo- so keep it clean and fresh.. its only a few bucks anyways.

Ghost of Duluth · 08-12-2004, 05:00 PM

Everything above is good, but let's get the very basics. How much seat time do you have in a car? I'm not trying to bust on you in any way, just asking. The first few times you throw the rear end out, your gut instinct is going to scream at you to get it back straight. You need to already be comfortable in your car before you start the sideways motion. Then, as stated before, find a large parking lot and just get sideways. I would also suggest a good seat. Nothing like initiating some drift and ending up on hte e-brake. You need to be stationary to drive right. Also, clean out your car. Nothing like initiating a Drift and getting a coke bottle stuck under the brake pedal while you are headed for a curb. Check your tire pressure as well. Make it a little harder than your everyday setting and watch it as you go. The tire will heat up, expanding the air inside and you don't want to pop it. The less flex you have in the sidewall, the better. These may sound like the most basic of basic, but they are alot of time overlooked.

Then get sideways. Weight transfer is a great way to do that, especially if you have alot of room to work with. Move from there to the E-brake. It also helps me to go with other people, I tend to feed off of them and learn alot more. Also, don't expect to be Captain Choki the first time out. The Donuts are a great way to learn throttle control as someone pointed out but they will eat your tires away like ants on a bone. The hardest part for me, coming from a grip style and background, was the actual getting sideways part. After that, it was just refining it until I could not spin out 90% of the time. I still spin out, I just try now to look good doing it

Cobra_R · 08-13-2004, 11:45 AM

Hey thanks for all your help guys.

squints338 · 08-14-2004, 07:36 AM

I just ordered some rear toe eliminators from www.mazdatrix.com I'll let you know how they work out on my car. I can get my car sideways, I just feel like there's a barrier in my rear toe design thing for drifting. So, it's worth the $45.00 for me to experiment these things. I <3 my RX-7.

nasty nate 7 · 08-14-2004, 06:43 PM

squints why didnt you just get the toe eliminators from racing beat and save yourself 5 bucks?

squints338 · 08-14-2004, 10:34 PM

Well, I bought them for $40.00, and I'm pretty sure shipping is either $5.00 or free. So, I only spent around $40 for them.

f8ldzz · 08-16-2004, 01:39 PM

Pay for the good tires up front...
Pay for the suspension upgrades which give you the most adjustability...
Get front camber plates...
Get power up over 200hp...

theflatlander · 08-17-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by f8ldzz
Pay for the good tires up front...
Pay for the suspension upgrades which give you the most adjustability...
Get front camber plates...
Get power up over 200hp...

200hp on a n/a... kinda hard, my motor with ported intake mainifold, tb, header to straight pipe and a tuned safcII, and i only dyno at 167whp but with a turbo on the way i expect around 250whp.

SidewaysGts · 08-18-2004, 07:06 PM

You dont really need a lot of hp in something like an FC... i know someone who does great with only like 160 or so hp i believe. Just gotta have the balls/skill to ride the throttle.

f8ldzz · 08-18-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SidewaysGts
You dont really need a lot of hp in something like an FC... i know someone who does great with only like 160 or so hp i believe. Just gotta have the balls/skill to ride the throttle.

Trust me, unless you got the skills like HoMastah, it's a lot easier to have the torque around to save your *Censored**Censored**Censored*.

nasty nate 7 · 08-19-2004, 01:43 AM

get a super charger, no point in turbocharging it when you have the 13bt already out there for sale. and you could save some money??? OR get a standalone ecu and get a beast~! a 20b or a 13bre cosmo~!

f8ldzz · 08-19-2004, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nasty nate 7
OR get a standalone ecu and get a beast~! a 20b or a 13bre cosmo~!

*snicker* 20B *snicker*

07-29-2004, 02:11 PM	#1
Cobra_R Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 138	FC drifting tips I finally found a place to drift in my area and was wondering if anyone who drifts FC's could give me some tips before i start. I know the FC likes to grip so any tips on how to break lose would be appreciated. thanks

08-12-2004, 05:00 PM	#15
Ghost of Duluth Sixgun Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 2,280	Everything above is good, but let's get the very basics. How much seat time do you have in a car? I'm not trying to bust on you in any way, just asking. The first few times you throw the rear end out, your gut instinct is going to scream at you to get it back straight. You need to already be comfortable in your car before you start the sideways motion. Then, as stated before, find a large parking lot and just get sideways. I would also suggest a good seat. Nothing like initiating some drift and ending up on hte e-brake. You need to be stationary to drive right. Also, clean out your car. Nothing like initiating a Drift and getting a coke bottle stuck under the brake pedal while you are headed for a curb. Check your tire pressure as well. Make it a little harder than your everyday setting and watch it as you go. The tire will heat up, expanding the air inside and you don't want to pop it. The less flex you have in the sidewall, the better. These may sound like the most basic of basic, but they are alot of time overlooked. Then get sideways. Weight transfer is a great way to do that, especially if you have alot of room to work with. Move from there to the E-brake. It also helps me to go with other people, I tend to feed off of them and learn alot more. Also, don't expect to be Captain Choki the first time out. The Donuts are a great way to learn throttle control as someone pointed out but they will eat your tires away like ants on a bone. The hardest part for me, coming from a grip style and background, was the actual getting sideways part. After that, it was just refining it until I could not spin out 90% of the time. I still spin out, I just try now to look good doing it __________________ Team SIXGUN, Don't whine about the food chain, be the top of it. Tokyo Pimps, Godzilla is coming. Lorin, oh Lorin, where have you gone?? If you're in the stands warming the bench, don't whine about the guys in the drivers seats.

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07-29-2004, 02:44 PM	#2
twcfc3s Horny mofo's coast2coast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: mexicali, baja california. mexico Posts: 915	buy the rear toe eliminators...

07-29-2004, 08:33 PM	#3
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	Yep

07-30-2004, 10:59 AM	#4
theflatlander Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Dakota Posts: 393	when i first started with my FC i would do a little feint with a clutch kick and never had a problem getting her sideway or holding the drift.

07-30-2004, 11:13 AM	#5
mranlet Smokes Dynamite Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampa, CT, all over the place! Posts: 1,090	Change the oil often, and make sure you don't overheat. That's all I got, just get as much seat time as you can. Do it!

07-30-2004, 11:54 AM	#6
turbo23 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In my FC Posts: 222	Your gonna need speed, they love to grip, so make sure u have a pretty good entry speed. Rear toe elims. and of couse coilovers, sway bars, and camber links and ull be set!

07-30-2004, 12:20 PM	#7
Cobra_R Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 138	Cool thanks, yea i was thinking i'd probably do the feint plus clutch kick to get sideways, i figured that would work.

07-31-2004, 04:34 PM	#8
Raziel FD3S - Drifter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kali - San Jose Posts: 261	Use the ebrake and get used to slideing around. Also doughnuts will help.

07-31-2004, 04:52 PM	#9
HX-50 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 300	keep a bottle of coolant around, just in case... also everyone seems to think it's a hard platform to drift on, i seem to do halfway decent with it, oh and i'm sure you know that with that coolant you should keep a quart of oil around

08-03-2004, 06:15 PM	#10
turbo23 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In my FC Posts: 222	pratice doing drift 360's clockwise and counterclock wise that will help u learn throttle control. Then pratice some clutch kicks and ebrakes. Start with ebrakes, that will help u learn some weight transfer. Or some manji runs( thats a bunch of feint style drifts in a straight line)

08-04-2004, 12:04 AM	#11
nasty nate 7 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alhambra CA Posts: 285	get good brake pads if you use ebrake a lot, everyone else explained what i was gonna say. stiffen chassis is very beneficial. and if you can, disable the abs(take out) youll learn better not to depend on it and you develop good pedal control

08-04-2004, 12:10 AM	#12
Heav3nzHell Digital Outbreak Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Somewhere behind the decks Posts: 42	hmmmmm wow everybody has so many different techniques. the way that i learned is by putting a cup of water in my portable cup holder and set that on the dash board. Works like a charm . and seriously it does. hella hard but works like a charm

08-11-2004, 08:06 PM	#13
FC3SGTU FC Drifter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 52	Drift it stock. Thats what I started off with, you need no coilovers or anything expensive unless you lack skill (no offense) I went out in a na at drift day and got it sideways, just clutch kick it or e-brake if your starting off, and btw this was 1st and 2nd gear all day so I didn't need mods to get it sideways, if your really concerned, buy front camber plates and toe eliminators and you'll definetly be able to get sideways, EVEN WITH OPEN DIFF. -Andrew

08-12-2004, 04:45 PM	#14
SidewaysGts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 421	If your jsut learning to drift learning on a stock platform is the best way to go. Softer suspension are much easier to learn on, weight moves around slower and stays there a bit longer- makes it much easier to experiment.. so you can tell when i do this- this is going to happen. etc. As for toe eliminatxorz- dont bother with em. In my opinion the toe adjusting is one of the many great assets to the fc. It may make it a bit different to learn how to break traction with it still in place, but its not overly difficult and it doesnt really help your drift angle/control etc. Once you learn how to deal with it- its no problem at all. Whats so appealing about it is that the car will still be good for grip- and its great for drifting. __ As for learning how everyone pretty much said the basics- Just get used to being sideways in general. big parking lots are a must for this. Experiment for you even attempt to upgrade anything. A good thing to do is get 2 cones and set them a fair distance apart- treat them as a "turn" and try to drift from one to the other. I wouldnt do clutch kicking too much unless you hate your transmission- send a good jolt through it and its a godo way to break something. Hand brake is good to learn on- make sure you adjust it after so long or else it wont be working as well. High traction front tires and low traction back tires are great for learning as well. After you feel comfortable try a feint motion with braking- turn away then then hard into the turn, releasing the brakes just after the turn in. One more thing to keep in mind- this was stated before but ya change your oil often. Make sure you use a good weight too, which kind of depends on your location (ie very hot- very cold). But rotaries eat oil more then piston engines do, they almost over use the oil imo- so keep it clean and fresh.. its only a few bucks anyways.

08-13-2004, 11:45 AM	#16
Cobra_R Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 138	Hey thanks for all your help guys.

08-14-2004, 07:36 AM	#17
squints338 OMGwetbuttsecks AIM Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 30	I just ordered some rear toe eliminators from www.mazdatrix.com I'll let you know how they work out on my car. I can get my car sideways, I just feel like there's a barrier in my rear toe design thing for drifting. So, it's worth the $45.00 for me to experiment these things. I <3 my RX-7.

08-14-2004, 06:43 PM	#18
nasty nate 7 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alhambra CA Posts: 285	squints why didnt you just get the toe eliminators from racing beat and save yourself 5 bucks?

08-14-2004, 10:34 PM	#19
squints338 OMGwetbuttsecks AIM Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 30	Well, I bought them for $40.00, and I'm pretty sure shipping is either $5.00 or free. So, I only spent around $40 for them.

08-16-2004, 01:39 PM	#20
f8ldzz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 185	Pay for the good tires up front... Pay for the suspension upgrades which give you the most adjustability... Get front camber plates... Get power up over 200hp...

08-18-2004, 07:06 PM	#22
SidewaysGts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 421	You dont really need a lot of hp in something like an FC... i know someone who does great with only like 160 or so hp i believe. Just gotta have the balls/skill to ride the throttle.

08-19-2004, 01:43 AM	#24
nasty nate 7 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alhambra CA Posts: 285	get a super charger, no point in turbocharging it when you have the 13bt already out there for sale. and you could save some money??? OR get a standalone ecu and get a beast~! a 20b or a 13bre cosmo~!