automatic drifting

gigglesnirt · 10-20-2004, 03:25 PM

how would i be able to drift an automatic, huge, v8, car? what would i need to do to get it sideways and keep it there?

superchargedXR7 · 10-20-2004, 04:37 PM

lots of low end torque and a quick hand on the e-brake

CrazyHawaiian · 10-20-2004, 05:42 PM

do a search.

Tercel_Drifter · 10-20-2004, 06:47 PM

possible give more info I assume its FR right?

gigglesnirt · 10-21-2004, 02:50 PM

of course its fr, its a 1987 ltd crown victoria to be exact, 5.0 engine, very heavy, but has some power, i've heard it has some potential but i dunno, maybe i will even try to convert to manual somehow, i'll find something to do.....and i guess i'll search up on auto drifting as well

CrazyHawaiian · 10-22-2004, 12:48 AM

Yeah sorry, not trying to be a ahole but I've got some pretty big posts on drifting with Automatics. Search will give you the answers. Good luck!!!

S13/R32 · 10-23-2004, 12:40 AM

not my car but my uncles car slides like mad with out slick hehe fun

351 stroked to 377
big *Censored**Censored**Censored* cam
850 holley
four spd auto wid B&M megashifter and stage three shift kit
big *Censored**Censored**Censored* diff
quater mile in 11.52

S13/R32 · 10-23-2004, 12:54 AM

last pic before i get told to piss off seeing it anit a jap car (plus haven't got photos of it sliding around corners, i got vision of it power out drifting but no pics)
the engine before the 850 holley (650 holley in the pic)

domesticdrifter · 11-12-2004, 05:08 PM

its pretty easy to drift with an automatic. I have a 93 5.0 that i use and its an automatic. What i do is right when i'm getting towards the corner i steer away then jurk it back towards the corner and floor it so that my rear wheels slip then as they slip conlroll the slide and you got it. It will take some practice but you'll get it

mechaniac · 11-13-2004, 12:57 AM

are you guys serious?

you can't even dissengage the tranny to effectively use the e-brake.

CrazyHawaiian · 11-13-2004, 04:07 AM

Yeah you're right. E-brake is definately less effective for us automatic guys. I have always had a hard time locking it to extend the slides. But it dosnt matter anymore anyway, my E-brake broke a long time ago and I no longer use it. You gotta use other techniques to kick it out and hold it out. I really wish I could lock the rears and hold a long slide, especially downhill. I like to initiate super early and hold it, but for the most part I power through every turn so I dont initiate as early (since its harder to extend).

Ris4drift · 11-13-2004, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by S13/R32
not my car but my uncles car slides like mad with out slick hehe fun

351 stroked to 377
big *Censored**Censored**Censored* cam
850 holley
four spd auto wid B&M megashifter and stage three shift kit
big *Censored**Censored**Censored* diff
quater mile in 11.52

wow a drag car that must drift great.

i am willing to bet you 5$ it has no rear sway bar for launching purposes.

power=/=drift car.

Ris4drift · 11-13-2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by superchargedXR7
lots of low end torque

maybe at 30mph.

Ris4drift · 11-13-2004, 12:43 PM

wieght transfer. punching hte gas giogn 60mph and lighting up the crappy rear tires you put on =/= drifting

not trying to be rude. but drifting an auto is nothing different than drifting a stick. oh wait you cant clutckick?!? who cares? cluchkicking isnt required to drift. neither is a manual transmission.

go to a drift event, learn to drift and youll see what inm talking about

drz · 11-13-2004, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ris4drift
wow a drag car that must drift great.

i am willing to bet you 5$ it has no rear sway bar for launching purposes.

For launching, drag cars with solid rear axles have no front bar. Do your homework, Mike.

The key to locking the rears with an auto is a strong e-brake. I have a hydraulic e-brake in the auto-equiped El Camino which, when it's working properly, locks the rears without a problem. I've driven a couple 3rd-gen Camaros before, and their cable e-brakes are a joke. They have to be yanked pretty hard just to keep the car from rolling down a typical driveway.

Ris4drift · 11-13-2004, 01:48 PM

i thoguth you took them both off?

either way, you dont need an ebrake, or antyhgin special to drift auto. basic wieght transfer skills you use ni anything else can apply here. no need to ebrake or whine about not having a clutch to kick.

if its a car , you can drift it.

S13/R32 · 11-14-2004, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ris4drift
wow a drag car that must drift great.

i am willing to bet you 5$ it has no rear sway bar for launching purposes.

power=/=drift car.

not really the best

if u use drag slicks u get traction but using drag slick for driftin is pertty expensive and you can't get any traction with that thing using normal street tyres

its very light light so with street tyres if go round a courner and jerk the wheel with the same amount of throttle or flat your foot (or both depends on the courner) the wheels just start spinning
another way would be tappin the brakes as it got drums on the back and discs up front

basically it was only driftin cos it was something different from burnouts

Drift For Food · 11-14-2004, 02:39 PM

giggle, you've got a PM

Ris4drift · 11-14-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by S13/R32
not really the best

if u use drag slicks u get traction but using drag slick for driftin is pertty expensive and you can't get any traction with that thing using normal street tyres its very light light so with street tyres if go round a courner and jerk the wheel with the same amount of throttle or flat your foot (or both depends on the courner) the wheels just start spinning
another way would be tappin the brakes as it got drums on the back and discs up front

basically it was only driftin cos it was something different from burnouts

dragslicks is a horrible idea for drifting. the hotter they get the stickier nto to mention the amost total lack of any/all sidewall rigity.

also i was being sarcastic when i said
"wow a drag car that must drift great" i just left

off.

S13/R32 · 11-15-2004, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ris4drift
dragslicks is a horrible idea for drifting. the hotter they get the stickier nto to mention the amost total lack of any/all sidewall rigity.

yep yep
yeah thats the basic idea for drag slicks hot n sticky

, we haven't used em for driftin that would be stupid

lol

CrazyHawaiian · 11-15-2004, 08:03 AM

I dunno why you giving him such a hard time Ris. The idea that a car used for drag racing can also drift, does this piss you off or something? I'm sorry to break it to you, but alot of guys that have power like to experiment with kicking it out. I know a guy that is not into drifting, does not even know what drifting is, but has no problem doing insane smokey donuts or what I would consider full throttle choku's down the street in his no-hood (you guessed it, automatic) Nova. Now I agree this isn't the same thing as "drifting" but its almost there. I think anyone with the balls to sample should get a little respect. And its not like S13/R32 said he was the drift king or anything anyway. All he said was that it slides nice and its alot of fun.

Ris4drift · 11-15-2004, 01:31 PM

i wasnt tryign to be mean to the guy. the el camino in FD was originally a drag project, however it had some suspension b/c the guy liked to auto-x as well. and i know from the past talking smack to local ls1 drivers about coming to auto-x that normally drag suspensions are super soft, and often they will take off swaybars, which is not a great idea for wanting to sustain a long drift or be able to transfer the other way. i was just pointing that out.

and the way i read that one post i thoguht you were saying you wanted to try to drift on slicks.

10-20-2004, 03:25 PM	#1
gigglesnirt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385	automatic drifting how would i be able to drift an automatic, huge, v8, car? what would i need to do to get it sideways and keep it there?

10-23-2004, 12:40 AM	#7
S13/R32 sleeping in traffic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aus Posts: 71	not my car but my uncles car slides like mad with out slick hehe fun 351 stroked to 377 big CensoredCensoredCensored cam 850 holley four spd auto wid B&M megashifter and stage three shift kit big CensoredCensoredCensored diff quater mile in 11.52 Attached Images

10-23-2004, 12:54 AM	#8
S13/R32 sleeping in traffic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aus Posts: 71	last pic before i get told to piss off seeing it anit a jap car (plus haven't got photos of it sliding around corners, i got vision of it power out drifting but no pics) the engine before the 850 holley (650 holley in the pic) Attached Images

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10-20-2004, 04:37 PM	#2
superchargedXR7 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 4	lots of low end torque and a quick hand on the e-brake

10-20-2004, 05:42 PM	#3
CrazyHawaiian Sample One Time!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,276	do a search.

10-20-2004, 06:47 PM	#4
Tercel_Drifter Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 39	possible give more info I assume its FR right?

10-21-2004, 02:50 PM	#5
gigglesnirt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385	of course its fr, its a 1987 ltd crown victoria to be exact, 5.0 engine, very heavy, but has some power, i've heard it has some potential but i dunno, maybe i will even try to convert to manual somehow, i'll find something to do.....and i guess i'll search up on auto drifting as well

10-22-2004, 12:48 AM	#6
CrazyHawaiian Sample One Time!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,276	Yeah sorry, not trying to be a ahole but I've got some pretty big posts on drifting with Automatics. Search will give you the answers. Good luck!!!

11-12-2004, 05:08 PM	#9
domesticdrifter Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16	its pretty easy to drift with an automatic. I have a 93 5.0 that i use and its an automatic. What i do is right when i'm getting towards the corner i steer away then jurk it back towards the corner and floor it so that my rear wheels slip then as they slip conlroll the slide and you got it. It will take some practice but you'll get it

11-13-2004, 12:57 AM	#10
mechaniac nuckin futs! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 61	are you guys serious? you can't even dissengage the tranny to effectively use the e-brake.

11-13-2004, 04:07 AM	#11
CrazyHawaiian Sample One Time!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,276	Yeah you're right. E-brake is definately less effective for us automatic guys. I have always had a hard time locking it to extend the slides. But it dosnt matter anymore anyway, my E-brake broke a long time ago and I no longer use it. You gotta use other techniques to kick it out and hold it out. I really wish I could lock the rears and hold a long slide, especially downhill. I like to initiate super early and hold it, but for the most part I power through every turn so I dont initiate as early (since its harder to extend).

11-13-2004, 12:43 PM	#14
Ris4drift Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: houston texas Posts: 357	wieght transfer. punching hte gas giogn 60mph and lighting up the crappy rear tires you put on =/= drifting not trying to be rude. but drifting an auto is nothing different than drifting a stick. oh wait you cant clutckick?!? who cares? cluchkicking isnt required to drift. neither is a manual transmission. go to a drift event, learn to drift and youll see what inm talking about

11-13-2004, 01:48 PM	#16
Ris4drift Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: houston texas Posts: 357	i thoguth you took them both off? either way, you dont need an ebrake, or antyhgin special to drift auto. basic wieght transfer skills you use ni anything else can apply here. no need to ebrake or whine about not having a clutch to kick. if its a car , you can drift it.

11-14-2004, 02:39 PM	#18
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	giggle, you've got a PM

11-15-2004, 08:03 AM	#21
CrazyHawaiian Sample One Time!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,276	I dunno why you giving him such a hard time Ris. The idea that a car used for drag racing can also drift, does this piss you off or something? I'm sorry to break it to you, but alot of guys that have power like to experiment with kicking it out. I know a guy that is not into drifting, does not even know what drifting is, but has no problem doing insane smokey donuts or what I would consider full throttle choku's down the street in his no-hood (you guessed it, automatic) Nova. Now I agree this isn't the same thing as "drifting" but its almost there. I think anyone with the balls to sample should get a little respect. And its not like S13/R32 said he was the drift king or anything anyway. All he said was that it slides nice and its alot of fun.

11-15-2004, 01:31 PM	#22
Ris4drift Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: houston texas Posts: 357	i wasnt tryign to be mean to the guy. the el camino in FD was originally a drag project, however it had some suspension b/c the guy liked to auto-x as well. and i know from the past talking smack to local ls1 drivers about coming to auto-x that normally drag suspensions are super soft, and often they will take off swaybars, which is not a great idea for wanting to sustain a long drift or be able to transfer the other way. i was just pointing that out. and the way i read that one post i thoguht you were saying you wanted to try to drift on slicks.