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endosteel 03-03-2004 09:18 AM

New RWD vehicles from GM
 
To expand upon what other have said about new RWD GM's

The Solstice will have a starting price under $20K with 170HP

A supercharger will be available from the dealer, no factory version is yet confirmed

The Chevy Nomad on the same platform (Kappa) will be a 2+2 hatchback

Saturn is getting a Kappa sports car

Other Kappa cars may be in the works for Pontiac, Buick and Cadillac

Also, the larger Zeta platform has the following cars planned
2007 Buick luxury sedan
2008 Buick Convertible
2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2008 Pontiac GTO
2008/09 Chevrolet coupe and convertible (Possibly named Camaro)
2009 Chevrolet impala
2010 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

Also there are still rumors that GM may import the V8 powered Holden Ute (think Monaro with a truck bed) as the next El Camino and the V8 powered Holden Statesman as the Buick Roadmaster.

That list is not finalized but GM is definately going to have more RWD and performance models in all of their divisions.

hachiroku-fc3s 03-03-2004 09:37 AM

http://www.solsticeforum.com/photopo...PV_015930_.jpg

Theres your kappa line up. Nomad. 05 (or early 06) solstice, and 06 saturn curve. The curve has 230 hp (at least the concept does) and is rumored to be cheaper than the solstice, so prob wont make it to production with so much. The solstice sits on a spaceframe, factory coilovers, 2.2L ECOTEC engine, powering the rear wheels that will prob be 17". Umm...for more info, go to solsticeforum.com. Lotta smart guys that have been following the car closely. Both the curve and the solstice hoods open forward. I dont know about the Nomad.

http://www.carbc.com/news2/curve-02.jpg
Curve back end.

http://www.carbc.com/news2/curve-03.jpg
Profile

http://www.solsticeforum.com/photopo...PV_015945_.jpg
Solstice

endosteel 03-03-2004 09:42 AM

It's actually been stated that the Curve will not make production but the resulting Kappa Saturn will probably take some design cues from the Curve.

And if want a wealth of info go here

www.cheersandgears.com

nissanguy_24 03-03-2004 11:15 AM

I dont care much for the curve's look. And im not sure on the nomad yet. Im going to have to see more pics i think.

driftfreak 03-03-2004 11:21 AM

RWD=good
it will be nice to see some more RWD cars on the market
just hopeing dodge puts there turbo 2.4 into a light/cheep RWD platform

GoukiS14 03-03-2004 01:01 PM

whoa Solstice looks dope!! kinda like a miata and bmw z's child

REVLIMIT 03-03-2004 01:19 PM

hmmm...so their using the ecotec motor...that'll be good consdiering they already have alot of mods for those motors. Turbo, super, cams, etc. Hell GM even sells all the parts needed to make the ecotec have 1,500hp O_o

Not to much of a fan on the saturns looks. But the Pontiac looks kinda like a porshe boxer and the nomad looks pretty cool. Kinda old school yet station wagon.

mranlet 03-03-2004 02:25 PM

I like the Curve, and I hate Saturns!

It looks like a ZR-1 molested a Ford Probe - it would be awesome if it had a hatch!

-MR

GoukiS14 03-03-2004 03:14 PM

hey rev limit I like ur sig.... cell shaded

Hardluck 03-03-2004 03:37 PM

That sig is from Auto Modellista, right?

hardcoredrift 03-03-2004 03:40 PM

i like he solstice it has a nice look and nice interior. its the miata of domestics.

driftersil80 03-03-2004 05:34 PM

By the time those buddies come out I should be able to drive (MUAHAHAHA!!!!).

180sx2nr8u 03-03-2004 05:42 PM

yeah the solstice is pretty bada$$. how much does it cost?only thing i dont like is the hood openin forward. for some reason, i hate that. doesnt seem like enough room to work from the sides. maybe its just me. the grille has to go, and it could use a back seat, but im not one to complain... much. itll be good to see some more RWD domestics out there. plus they can finally start rep'n for detroit. some comp for the JDM craze.

GoukiS14 03-03-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hardluck
That sig is from Auto Modellista, right?
I don't think they had older camaros in auto modelista (could be wrong) but I think they actually made that sig

Tsunami 03-04-2004 03:56 PM

I need an HSV Maloo really bad. Think 400 horses, 6ft bed, independent suspension, 6 gears, and awesome looks.

endosteel 03-04-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tsunami
I need an HSV Maloo really bad. Think 400 horses, 6ft bed, independent suspension, 6 gears, and awesome looks.
I hear that. Modernized El Camino drifting!

Ford Australia also produces a Falcon 4 door that comes with a Turbo I6 or a V8 making up to 390 HP. Why do the Aussies get all the cars that sound so American? (ie V8 RWD)

REVLIMIT 03-05-2004 12:08 AM

Thanks...but yea I actually modified a picture to make it look like auto modilista. Back before the game came out I started doing that with photoshop. So far I've only been able to do cars and cartoon charecters. I've tried humans but could never pull it off. O_o

Hardluck 03-05-2004 08:35 AM

That's awesome!
And, eh, who cares about humans, they're boring anyway. Cars generally have much more personality.

If I were to ask really, really nice someday, could you do something like that for me? I'm planning a website, and though it's far from realization, I think it'd be cool to have something cel-shaded up there.

No pressure, no sweat.

ToplessFC3Sman 03-05-2004 09:42 AM

I like the Kappa platform, and I think its really something that GM needs to stay competative. The only really inspiring cars they offer here in the States are the Corvette, XLR, and maybe the GTO and CTS-V. The Solstice would really boost GM's image, and would be a domestic challenger worthy of the MX-5. The Curve is just a little odd looking, more like a design study with Seat front styling than a car from our plastic-bodied, FWD friends at Saturn. Compaired with the other two, the Nomad looks a little bland, sorta like it was an afterthought. The one bad thing about Kappa tho, it would replace my favorite car, the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220, which is currently based off the Lotus Elise platform. Kappa would be much cheaper for GM to use than Lotus, so inevitably those cars would switch to Kappa. The Vauxhall Lightning concept was based off of it, and altho it looks very good, I dont think it compares with the clean lines and presence of the VX220 which it would replace, if made.

Lightning:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...308_news_vaux/

VX220:
http://www.vx220london.com/

endosteel 03-05-2004 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ToplessFC3Sman
Compaired with the other two, the Nomad looks a little bland, sorta like it was an afterthought.

Yeah, I'll agree it's a little bland but it's supposed to evoke the look of the mid-fifties ('54?) Motorama Nomad Concept Car which combined a '53 Corvette front end with a wagon rear. If you look at the new Nomad you definately see first gen 'Vette.

ToplessFC3Sman 03-05-2004 10:13 AM

yea, I picked up on that... but even when compared to the '54 concept, its lacking a bit of visual flair

Tsunami 03-05-2004 02:20 PM

I love the Lightning........it's so much hotter than the Solstice's bubbly shape. Maybe one day putting "EDM" bodywork on Solstices will be all the rage.

It's interesting that you bring up the VX220. We almost got that car about 5 years ago when Vauxhall and Opel were roadtetsting their prototypes. GM thought about bringing it here as an entry-level sports car for under 19 grand. The spy shots were gorgeous: curvy with vents and fender flares......yum yum. They tried it 2 years later but it didn't make it. So what happens? Instead of getting an affordable American sports car we now have the pleasure of drooling over a Japanese-powered Elise (essentially the same car as the VX220) that only the rich can afford. *Sigh*


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