New RWD vehicles from GM

endosteel · 03-03-2004, 10:18 AM

To expand upon what other have said about new RWD GM's

The Solstice will have a starting price under $20K with 170HP

A supercharger will be available from the dealer, no factory version is yet confirmed

The Chevy Nomad on the same platform (Kappa) will be a 2+2 hatchback

Saturn is getting a Kappa sports car

Other Kappa cars may be in the works for Pontiac, Buick and Cadillac

Also, the larger Zeta platform has the following cars planned
2007 Buick luxury sedan
2008 Buick Convertible
2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2008 Pontiac GTO
2008/09 Chevrolet coupe and convertible (Possibly named Camaro)
2009 Chevrolet impala
2010 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

Also there are still rumors that GM may import the V8 powered Holden Ute (think Monaro with a truck bed) as the next El Camino and the V8 powered Holden Statesman as the Buick Roadmaster.

That list is not finalized but GM is definately going to have more RWD and performance models in all of their divisions.

hachiroku-fc3s · 03-03-2004, 10:37 AM

Theres your kappa line up. Nomad. 05 (or early 06) solstice, and 06 saturn curve. The curve has 230 hp (at least the concept does) and is rumored to be cheaper than the solstice, so prob wont make it to production with so much. The solstice sits on a spaceframe, factory coilovers, 2.2L ECOTEC engine, powering the rear wheels that will prob be 17". Umm...for more info, go to solsticeforum.com. Lotta smart guys that have been following the car closely. Both the curve and the solstice hoods open forward. I dont know about the Nomad.

Curve back end.

Profile

Solstice

endosteel · 03-03-2004, 10:42 AM

It's actually been stated that the Curve will not make production but the resulting Kappa Saturn will probably take some design cues from the Curve.

And if want a wealth of info go here

www.cheersandgears.com

nissanguy_24 · 03-03-2004, 12:15 PM

I dont care much for the curve's look. And im not sure on the nomad yet. Im going to have to see more pics i think.

03-03-2004, 12:21 PM

RWD=good
it will be nice to see some more RWD cars on the market
just hopeing dodge puts there turbo 2.4 into a light/cheep RWD platform

GoukiS14 · 03-03-2004, 02:01 PM

whoa Solstice looks dope!! kinda like a miata and bmw z's child

REVLIMIT · 03-03-2004, 02:19 PM

hmmm...so their using the ecotec motor...that'll be good consdiering they already have alot of mods for those motors. Turbo, super, cams, etc. Hell GM even sells all the parts needed to make the ecotec have 1,500hp O_o

Not to much of a fan on the saturns looks. But the Pontiac looks kinda like a porshe boxer and the nomad looks pretty cool. Kinda old school yet station wagon.

mranlet · 03-03-2004, 03:25 PM

I like the Curve, and I hate Saturns!

It looks like a ZR-1 molested a Ford Probe - it would be awesome if it had a hatch!

-MR

GoukiS14 · 03-03-2004, 04:14 PM

hey rev limit I like ur sig.... cell shaded

Hardluck · 03-03-2004, 04:37 PM

That sig is from Auto Modellista, right?

hardcoredrift · 03-03-2004, 04:40 PM

i like he solstice it has a nice look and nice interior. its the miata of domestics.

driftersil80 · 03-03-2004, 06:34 PM

By the time those buddies come out I should be able to drive (MUAHAHAHA!!!!).

180sx2nr8u · 03-03-2004, 06:42 PM

yeah the solstice is pretty bada$$. how much does it cost?only thing i dont like is the hood openin forward. for some reason, i hate that. doesnt seem like enough room to work from the sides. maybe its just me. the grille has to go, and it could use a back seat, but im not one to complain... much. itll be good to see some more RWD domestics out there. plus they can finally start rep'n for detroit. some comp for the JDM craze.

GoukiS14 · 03-03-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hardluck
That sig is from Auto Modellista, right?

I don't think they had older camaros in auto modelista (could be wrong) but I think they actually made that sig

Tsunami · 03-04-2004, 04:56 PM

I need an HSV Maloo really bad. Think 400 horses, 6ft bed, independent suspension, 6 gears, and awesome looks.

endosteel · 03-05-2004, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tsunami
I need an HSV Maloo really bad. Think 400 horses, 6ft bed, independent suspension, 6 gears, and awesome looks.

I hear that. Modernized El Camino drifting!

Ford Australia also produces a Falcon 4 door that comes with a Turbo I6 or a V8 making up to 390 HP. Why do the Aussies get all the cars that sound so American? (ie V8 RWD)

REVLIMIT · 03-05-2004, 01:08 AM

Thanks...but yea I actually modified a picture to make it look like auto modilista. Back before the game came out I started doing that with photoshop. So far I've only been able to do cars and cartoon charecters. I've tried humans but could never pull it off. O_o

Hardluck · 03-05-2004, 09:35 AM

That's awesome!
And, eh, who cares about humans, they're boring anyway. Cars generally have much more personality.

If I were to ask really, really nice someday, could you do something like that for me? I'm planning a website, and though it's far from realization, I think it'd be cool to have something cel-shaded up there.

No pressure, no sweat.

ToplessFC3Sman · 03-05-2004, 10:42 AM

I like the Kappa platform, and I think its really something that GM needs to stay competative. The only really inspiring cars they offer here in the States are the Corvette, XLR, and maybe the GTO and CTS-V. The Solstice would really boost GM's image, and would be a domestic challenger worthy of the MX-5. The Curve is just a little odd looking, more like a design study with Seat front styling than a car from our plastic-bodied, FWD friends at Saturn. Compaired with the other two, the Nomad looks a little bland, sorta like it was an afterthought. The one bad thing about Kappa tho, it would replace my favorite car, the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220, which is currently based off the Lotus Elise platform. Kappa would be much cheaper for GM to use than Lotus, so inevitably those cars would switch to Kappa. The Vauxhall Lightning concept was based off of it, and altho it looks very good, I dont think it compares with the clean lines and presence of the VX220 which it would replace, if made.

Lightning:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...308_news_vaux/

VX220:
http://www.vx220london.com/

endosteel · 03-05-2004, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ToplessFC3Sman
Compaired with the other two, the Nomad looks a little bland, sorta like it was an afterthought.

Yeah, I'll agree it's a little bland but it's supposed to evoke the look of the mid-fifties ('54?) Motorama Nomad Concept Car which combined a '53 Corvette front end with a wagon rear. If you look at the new Nomad you definately see first gen 'Vette.

ToplessFC3Sman · 03-05-2004, 11:13 AM

yea, I picked up on that... but even when compared to the '54 concept, its lacking a bit of visual flair

Tsunami · 03-05-2004, 03:20 PM

I love the Lightning........it's so much hotter than the Solstice's bubbly shape. Maybe one day putting "EDM" bodywork on Solstices will be all the rage.

It's interesting that you bring up the VX220. We almost got that car about 5 years ago when Vauxhall and Opel were roadtetsting their prototypes. GM thought about bringing it here as an entry-level sports car for under 19 grand. The spy shots were gorgeous: curvy with vents and fender flares......yum yum. They tried it 2 years later but it didn't make it. So what happens? Instead of getting an affordable American sports car we now have the pleasure of drooling over a Japanese-powered Elise (essentially the same car as the VX220) that only the rich can afford. *Sigh*

03-03-2004, 10:18 AM	#1
endosteel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 22	New RWD vehicles from GM To expand upon what other have said about new RWD GM's The Solstice will have a starting price under $20K with 170HP A supercharger will be available from the dealer, no factory version is yet confirmed The Chevy Nomad on the same platform (Kappa) will be a 2+2 hatchback Saturn is getting a Kappa sports car Other Kappa cars may be in the works for Pontiac, Buick and Cadillac Also, the larger Zeta platform has the following cars planned 2007 Buick luxury sedan 2008 Buick Convertible 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix 2008 Pontiac GTO 2008/09 Chevrolet coupe and convertible (Possibly named Camaro) 2009 Chevrolet impala 2010 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Also there are still rumors that GM may import the V8 powered Holden Ute (think Monaro with a truck bed) as the next El Camino and the V8 powered Holden Statesman as the Buick Roadmaster. That list is not finalized but GM is definately going to have more RWD and performance models in all of their divisions.

03-03-2004, 10:37 AM	#2
hachiroku-fc3s Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: D/FW TX Posts: 549	Theres your kappa line up. Nomad. 05 (or early 06) solstice, and 06 saturn curve. The curve has 230 hp (at least the concept does) and is rumored to be cheaper than the solstice, so prob wont make it to production with so much. The solstice sits on a spaceframe, factory coilovers, 2.2L ECOTEC engine, powering the rear wheels that will prob be 17". Umm...for more info, go to solsticeforum.com. Lotta smart guys that have been following the car closely. Both the curve and the solstice hoods open forward. I dont know about the Nomad. Curve back end. Profile Solstice __________________ Do y'all smell Burger King?? Oh it's just beef over an open flame.

03-03-2004, 02:19 PM	#7
REVLIMIT The camaro drifter guy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Waipio Gentry, Hawaii Posts: 233	hmmm...so their using the ecotec motor...that'll be good consdiering they already have alot of mods for those motors. Turbo, super, cams, etc. Hell GM even sells all the parts needed to make the ecotec have 1,500hp O_o Not to much of a fan on the saturns looks. But the Pontiac looks kinda like a porshe boxer and the nomad looks pretty cool. Kinda old school yet station wagon. __________________

03-03-2004, 03:25 PM	#8
mranlet Smokes Dynamite Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampa, CT, all over the place! Posts: 1,090	I like the Curve, and I hate Saturns! It looks like a ZR-1 molested a Ford Probe - it would be awesome if it had a hatch! -MR __________________ Difinitive Guides: Weight Reduction AWD Drifting Tech[nique] Braking Drift

03-03-2004, 04:40 PM	#11
hardcoredrift Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Palm Springs CA Posts: 110	i like he solstice it has a nice look and nice interior. its the miata of domestics. __________________ i was initialn00b but my name went bye bye

03-03-2004, 10:42 AM	#3
endosteel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 22	It's actually been stated that the Curve will not make production but the resulting Kappa Saturn will probably take some design cues from the Curve. And if want a wealth of info go here www.cheersandgears.com

03-03-2004, 12:15 PM	#4
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	I dont care much for the curve's look. And im not sure on the nomad yet. Im going to have to see more pics i think.

03-03-2004, 12:21 PM	#5
driftfreak Guest Posts: n/a	RWD=good it will be nice to see some more RWD cars on the market just hopeing dodge puts there turbo 2.4 into a light/cheep RWD platform

03-03-2004, 02:01 PM	#6
GoukiS14 Subway Pervert FD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Back in the U.S. but wishing he were back in Japan Posts: 963	whoa Solstice looks dope!! kinda like a miata and bmw z's child

03-03-2004, 04:14 PM	#9
GoukiS14 Subway Pervert FD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Back in the U.S. but wishing he were back in Japan Posts: 963	hey rev limit I like ur sig.... cell shaded

03-03-2004, 04:37 PM	#10
Hardluck Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 31	That sig is from Auto Modellista, right?

03-03-2004, 06:34 PM	#12
driftersil80 GT3/KB2 Drift Master Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 836	By the time those buddies come out I should be able to drive (MUAHAHAHA!!!!). __________________ Possessing happier driving spirit for better experienced drive.

03-03-2004, 06:42 PM	#13
180sx2nr8u The Shadow Drifters Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 140	yeah the solstice is pretty bada$$. how much does it cost?only thing i dont like is the hood openin forward. for some reason, i hate that. doesnt seem like enough room to work from the sides. maybe its just me. the grille has to go, and it could use a back seat, but im not one to complain... much. itll be good to see some more RWD domestics out there. plus they can finally start rep'n for detroit. some comp for the JDM craze. __________________ Shadow Drifters A beautiful drift is a thing to behold. An FF drift is not. Stick to the parking lots.

03-04-2004, 04:56 PM	#15
Tsunami Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 670	I need an HSV Maloo really bad. Think 400 horses, 6ft bed, independent suspension, 6 gears, and awesome looks. __________________ 1995 Thunderbird 4.6 LX 1999 Taurus SE 24V

03-05-2004, 01:08 AM	#17
REVLIMIT The camaro drifter guy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Waipio Gentry, Hawaii Posts: 233	Thanks...but yea I actually modified a picture to make it look like auto modilista. Back before the game came out I started doing that with photoshop. So far I've only been able to do cars and cartoon charecters. I've tried humans but could never pull it off. O_o __________________

03-05-2004, 09:35 AM	#18
Hardluck Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 31	That's awesome! And, eh, who cares about humans, they're boring anyway. Cars generally have much more personality. If I were to ask really, really nice someday, could you do something like that for me? I'm planning a website, and though it's far from realization, I think it'd be cool to have something cel-shaded up there. No pressure, no sweat.

03-05-2004, 10:42 AM	#19
ToplessFC3Sman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 178	I like the Kappa platform, and I think its really something that GM needs to stay competative. The only really inspiring cars they offer here in the States are the Corvette, XLR, and maybe the GTO and CTS-V. The Solstice would really boost GM's image, and would be a domestic challenger worthy of the MX-5. The Curve is just a little odd looking, more like a design study with Seat front styling than a car from our plastic-bodied, FWD friends at Saturn. Compaired with the other two, the Nomad looks a little bland, sorta like it was an afterthought. The one bad thing about Kappa tho, it would replace my favorite car, the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220, which is currently based off the Lotus Elise platform. Kappa would be much cheaper for GM to use than Lotus, so inevitably those cars would switch to Kappa. The Vauxhall Lightning concept was based off of it, and altho it looks very good, I dont think it compares with the clean lines and presence of the VX220 which it would replace, if made. Lightning: http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...308_news_vaux/ VX220: http://www.vx220london.com/ __________________ <--- 88 RX-7 Convertible

03-05-2004, 11:13 AM	#21
ToplessFC3Sman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 178	yea, I picked up on that... but even when compared to the '54 concept, its lacking a bit of visual flair __________________ <--- 88 RX-7 Convertible

03-05-2004, 03:20 PM	#22
Tsunami Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 670	I love the Lightning........it's so much hotter than the Solstice's bubbly shape. Maybe one day putting "EDM" bodywork on Solstices will be all the rage. It's interesting that you bring up the VX220. We almost got that car about 5 years ago when Vauxhall and Opel were roadtetsting their prototypes. GM thought about bringing it here as an entry-level sports car for under 19 grand. The spy shots were gorgeous: curvy with vents and fender flares......yum yum. They tried it 2 years later but it didn't make it. So what happens? Instead of getting an affordable American sports car we now have the pleasure of drooling over a Japanese-powered Elise (essentially the same car as the VX220) that only the rich can afford. Sigh __________________ 1995 Thunderbird 4.6 LX 1999 Taurus SE 24V

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