XTREME DRIFT CIRCUIT, PRO-AM Series

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by blaze1

LOL FIA seat for under 300 mabey used....mabey

if FIA isnt a standard in the series i say go for the momo start... anything beats ultrashield IMO

Which has been my problem. $400 for a seat is bit much and Ultrashield, Kirkey, and Butler seats have been used for years with no problems. If the SCCA and NASA can find a way to use their seats, someone else should be able to, too.

[socalwrench]

http://www.saferacer.com

SafeRacer has some good deals on seats. Might want to check them out.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by socalwrench

http://www.saferacer.com

SafeRacer has some good deals on seats. Might want to check them out.

I was looking at that Sprint 5 that they have. They offer free shipping, too. Anyone know how wide it is?

[Mars]

Originally Posted by blaze1

In my oppinion this is kinda unjust. Any team who put together a budget to run a full series and placed in the top 3 or 4 shouldnt have to attended a 7th event just to recieve a pro licence. In my eyes anyone who is able to do that should automaticly be licenced for the pros next year.

Send the other 12 of the top 16 out to the pro am, along with others who ran in other local championship series or qualifiers. I hope FD sees this as a chance to let the grassroots decide who is ready to step up to their level. What is 3 spots too series who has trouble filling all 32 spots at a event (Seatle).

I so agree. There was a lot of florida drivers that couldnt make finals this year cause it was changed all the way to irwindale.

[deadpirate]

mars..the original event was planned for phoenix..whats the difference?? they could afford to drive to phoenix..but not an extra 200 ish miles?

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by deadpirate

mars..the original event was planned for phoenix..whats the difference?? they could afford to drive to phoenix..but not an extra 200 ish miles?

Well, if your tow vehicle only gets 10 MPG, you have a 25 gallon tank, and travel 2319 miles (leaving from Petersburg, VA) you have to make 19 stops for gas round trip. Diesel is around $3/gal, so that's $75 per stop, $1425 round trip.

Irwindale, on the other hand, is 2621 miles one way. That's 21 stops round trip. At $75 per stop, that's now $1575 round trip and $125 more in travel costs. That's an extra set of used tires and wheels, a weekend at a hotel plus food, or extra fuel for your drift car (100 Octane is, roughly what $6.50 a gallon? So that's nearly an extra 20 gallons).

So, that's pretty understandable to say, "I really can't afford to go that far." Understand, these are rough estimates using Diesel fuel, too.

[Slapshotnerd]

Originally Posted by Justin Banner

Well, if your tow vehicle only gets 10 MPG, you have a 25 gallon tank, and travel 2319 miles (leaving from Petersburg, VA) you have to make 19 stops for gas round trip. Diesel is around $3/gal, so that's $75 per stop, $1425 round trip.

Irwindale, on the other hand, is 2621 miles one way. That's 21 stops round trip. At $75 per stop, that's now $1575 round trip and $125 more in travel costs. That's an extra set of used tires and wheels, a weekend at a hotel plus food, or extra fuel for your drift car (100 Octane is, roughly what $6.50 a gallon? So that's nearly an extra 20 gallons).

So, that's pretty understandable to say, "I really can't afford to go that far." Understand, these are rough estimates using Diesel fuel, too.

However.... at the point where you're already spending $1400 in fuel (probably closer to $1800 in overall costs) and 4 days traveling round trip for a once-per-year chance to make your dreams come true by becoming a licensed Formula D driver, what's an extra 6 hours of travel and $150 in fuel costs?!

If you can't survive a 10% change in budget, you probably shouldn't be drifting.

[deadpirate]

plus your hotel and food cost should already be factored into your pro am budget if you plan to go, seeing as thats money thats going to be spent no matter what. irwindale or phoenix, your prolly getting a hotel...and your most likely going to eat something, no matter what city your in

[blaze1]

more reason why we should have this series

if you can put together and perform well in a lesser series you are ready for the pros!

i thought the "Quest for the Sword" event was the east coast pro am?

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by Slapshotnerd

If you can't survive a 10% change in budget, you probably shouldn't be drifting.

If the change was well before (like two to three months before the final event, especially in our economy), then, yes you are right. But a month before, not so much.

[blaze1]

whore yourself

that's chump change for a prostitute

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by blaze1

whore yourself

that's chump change for a prostitute

LOL! I'd have to find someone into chubbies

[Justin Banner]

You know, I just realized I was making the argument about venue changing. God, brainfart moment, sorry everyone.

[Edgar]

Racing cost money. Duh!

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by Edgar

Racing cost money. Duh!

May have my seat problem covered. I'll know by the end of January.

[boxmod]

bigger issue for me was the venue itself. My car 'as it sits' couldn't do irwindale bank, but the flats at phoenix I had no worries. I even had 2 seperate invites (1st HIN Tampa and 2nd FD Atlanta) but Irwindale was not going to happen with my car. This year, this year will be different.

[blaze1]

what do you drive?

[boxmod]

s13 with a redtop t25, FMIC, boost at 15psi. 230hp of awesome.

peep it>> http://www.vimeo.com/7352152

[blaze1]

Originally Posted by boxmod

s13 with a redtop t25, FMIC, boost at 15psi. 230hp of awesome.

peep it>> http://www.vimeo.com/7352152

I think you underestimated your self

I seen skilled drivers with less horsepower fully link irwindale, and I'm talking about NA short wheelbase corolla guys.

And plus you got a SR 240sx, you can squeeze out another hundred horsepower with ease. PFC, Injectors, Headwork... its a go

[boxmod]

Originally Posted by blaze1

I think you underestimated your self

I seen skilled drivers with less horsepower fully link irwindale, and I'm talking about NA short wheelbase corolla guys.

And plus you got a SR 240sx, you can squeeze out another hundred horsepower with ease. PFC, Injectors, Headwork... its a go

well as far as getting more hp, if you wanna donate the parts/money ok.

I have a enough experience in my car to know the torque isnt there in 3rd to keep them spinning much on flats at 80-ish let alone a huge bank. I could have stepped down the tire size to something less predictable, but that still leaves me with the $$$ trip from FL. I couldnt risk that much $$ to show up and my car not make it around the bank!

I don't know, I could throw excuses all day I guess but really, we were asked at FD Atlanta who would attend a west coast final. Everyone said without assistance no we wouldn't.

They said there might be a east coast at VIR but only top 8 (or so) would get a license but west coast at Phoenix would be top 16 (guaranteed).... so they dropped east all together and moved west further out.

I know its not always in controllable, but its hard enough making a name for yourself as a privateer, then add in FL, and your screwed hahaha. I've been kickin in the door for 4 years, I'm not stopping now.

[D1 DRIFTER]

you could have done irwindale just fine... i did irwindale in a redtop with 10psi on a t28 and vlsd on 245/45/17 x 10's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-BvsDzQOaw

go for broke.

[boxmod]

damn, from that perspective the bank doesnt look as steep but whatever. I think your t28 on 10psi prolly is a little more go behind it and 17s vs my 18s, what tires did you run?

I dunno really though, bank speeds at Iwindale are in the 75-85 range right? Last time I was sideways at that speed I was BARELY keeping her out and it was on flats.

dont matter, the events gone and I couldn't have afforded it then anyways.

[B.Young]

Irwindale is just seat time to get the feel of the bank. My first run there I just floored it, and did my best to hang on. myspace.com/BYDrifting As the day continued I had some engine issues, but I survived to the top 8 (barely).
It does suck to be so far away from these kind of events, but if your not tied down, just move to Cali, Vegas, or Phoenix where it is very possible to get ahead in drifting. Thats what I would do anyways. Good luck with next year, and I hope to see you drifting sometime.

[boxmod]

Originally Posted by B.Young

Irwindale is just seat time to get the feel of the bank. My first run there I just floored it, and did my best to hang on. myspace.com/BYDrifting As the day continued I had some engine issues, but I survived to the top 8 (barely).
It does suck to be so far away from these kind of events, but if your not tied down, just move to Cali, Vegas, or Phoenix where it is very possible to get ahead in drifting. Thats what I would do anyways. Good luck with next year, and I hope to see you drifting sometime.

I know and I've entertained the idea of moving west. Part of me wants to try to help the scene here by sticking it out and showing sponsors, and up n comming drivers that it is possible to be a success from Florida/SouthEast.

I'm not really 'tied down' either but man, I'd have to sell the car just to afford the move hahahaha.

I plan on seeing Cali this year at least once.

[B.Young]

Thats awsome that you want to help the local scene get recognized for its talent. Unfortunatly recognizing top amatur drifters on a national scale seems to be difficult unless you have time and money to travel, but thats where the sacrifice comes in to achieve your goals. I'm in the Phoenix area and I don't make much money, but I pull through to try and make every local event. I'm going to Cali more often in 2010 to get competition experience from the top amaturs there (funded by side jobs). If you ever make it out this way and need a rest stop for the night in the Phoenix area, my door is open to you. I live with my girl and a few friends. No drugs, but beer is good