(CANCELLED) 2010 D1 USA GRAND PRIX Event Schedule

[Piner]

^ Thats different, the android actually works. D1 USA pretty much failed on every one of their claims.

FD lives up to everything they say they are going to do. I am still wondering where the FOX coverage D1 USA was touting as the "biggest media deal in drifting history" is. Just like Anaheim was "the biggest track buildout in drifting history" when it was obviously much smaller than Redbull's track. FD has never even made such bold claims like that much less failed to live up to them as D1 has.

If D1 hadn't gotten everybody's hopes up for a good professional series 3 years in a row now I would be happy that the series is being put on but damn they need to get off this fail curve quick and throw good events. Don't claim you are number 1 and then expect people to forgive you when you can't deliver.

[Piner]

^ its more of the usual BS

[Bebop]

Originally Posted by OldSkool510

Organization wise, FD owns D1 in the states. Driver wise, it would be a dumb move for FD to pit its drivers against D1's. D1's lineup is much too strong for FD.

I'm all for D1 returning to the STATES. Instead of a series,
D1 should just return as an exhibition, a la Cirque de Soleil. Calling it a series with only 6 J drivers is not a series at all.

FD vs D1 with FD rules FD will own all because none of there drivers have any type of FD tandem experience.

D1 vs FD with D1 rules, I think FD has a chance because most drivers have driven D1gp at some time or another

You may have started the game 10 years ago, but the Americans have perfected your game.

bold words.

[Slapshotnerd]

D1GP's history in the US:

2003 – Slipstream Global (aka Jim and Ryan from FD) kick *Censored**Censored**Censored* at producing the first ever pro drifting competition in the US, and D1 Japan thanks them by firing them. They go on to start FD which runs a full schedule in 2004 and takes off as a huge success. Thanks to D1GP for being so short-sided!

2004 – Feb race is Japanese points race (before FD starts inaugural season), Dec race is exhibition @ JGTC race – boring track, decent crowd (due largely to the JGTC race not D1). nothing exciting.

2005 – March event was JDM points event, first All star event at Irwindale and JR kicks *Censored**Censored**Censored*.

2006 – March event was JDM points event, Vegas happens but hardly any US drivers (schedule conflict with FD Seattle), Irwindale exhibition happens with international drivers who feel they get raw end of the deal (Damien Mulvey, Phil Morrison, Paul Vlasblom).

At this point, D1 feels they are unstoppable, and tries to take over the US market by force and fires their entire US staff. Hideo briefly goes to NOPI but that doesn’t work out either. D1GB organizers are tired of D1GP’s crap and form EDC.

2007 – Full US series schedule announced. March Irwindale event is cancelled due to J drivers not having cars ready, June Altamont event is cancelled, only NJ, Vegas (very few US drivers attend), and “all star” race happened, they are all exhibitions. JR wins the all star race again. US staff fired again.

2008 – US series was proposed for a second season in November 2007, but cancelled in February 2008. All star race announced for November 1 week after Red bull, that event gets cancelled too. no race in USA. D1 should have stopped right here.

2009 – Driven Events takes over US promotions, full schedule announced, actually happened, “biggest drifting build in history” is a lie, TV deal never happened as promised, judge was replaced halfway thru season, 2 teams fined (drift avengers / team orange) due to conduct but $0 collected and both teams quit, Ross Petty and Pat Mordaunt are only FD top 16 drivers who compete. Driven Events seperates from D1GP Japan, claims that they are impossible to work with, and some of the same team starts XDC.

2010 – big things promised…. will we actually see it?

the last 3 years here in the US have been a huge bomb for D1GP. Everybody who has worked for D1GP in the US has been canned at some point. I hope this new group doesn’t think that they are special… they’re just the only idiots who still have faith in the brand name (or are oblivious to all the previous fallouts).

[OldSkool510]

Just wondering......Will Blaze and Slapshot be at D1's event?

btw I liked Blaze much more before he went "HOLLYWOOD" on us and exposed himself to the world. Now he schmoozing and wining and dining with the big boys. Maybe he will be the next "boy toy" of the Drift Avengers. lol Big props to Blaze1.

[Bebop]

2006 D1 Vegas had quite a few US drivers such as Foust JR and Fors (no conflicting schedual)

2007 D1 vegas was on the same weekend as seattle (conflicting schedule) and saw drivers like JTP, Fixmer, and Russakoff and they are not slouches

2007 D1 NJ the whole Falken team showed up

2004 – Feb race is Japanese points race (before FD starts inaugural season), Dec race is exhibition @ JGTC race – boring track, decent crowd (due largely to the JGTC race not D1). nothing exciting.

Maybe that was from your point of view, that was like my 4th drift event ever, it was cold and windy and the last thing that happened that whole 2 days race weekend. If people didn't like it they could have packed it in but they stayed. That was the first time a American driver beat a Japanese (Fors and Rhys), so in its own right it was pretty iconic. And if I'm not mistaken the whole event was like 5 hours long, from top 32 to the finals. Ahead of its time.

Originally Posted by OldSkool510

btw I liked Blaze much more before he went "HOLLYWOOD" on us and exposed himself to the world. Now he schmoozing and wining and dining with the big boys. Maybe he will be the next "boy toy" of the Drift Avengers. lol Big props to Blaze1.

LMAO

Ha nothing much has changed, just watching what I say a little bit more and trying not to come off like a 16 year boy even though I've been on this forum for that long lol.

This is D1GPs last shot for me, if they cant get this done they have lost a loyal fan for ever.

GAME OVER

[Slapshotnerd]

Originally Posted by OldSkool510

Just wondering......Will Blaze and Slapshot be at D1's event?

If there's an event in LA, and I have a client who needs my work,I will go. I was supposedly "blackballed" from D1 in '07, but I've been to every event in LA since.

[Bebop]

FD makes a similar claim about sonoma from time to time.

[Bebop]

Quote from speedhunters

Captain Insano said:

What a joke. These guys released a schedule and don't even have their dates booked. I called Irwindale Speedway and they have no date booked for them. Same *** different people. How could another group get suckered by D1? Fail

[Slapshotnerd]

Originally Posted by blaze1

FD makes a similar claim about sonoma from time to time.

Claiming 100 mph speeds at a track once a year where more than 1 driver DOES actually hit 100 mph isn't smoke and mirrors.

let's look at D1's claim again:

D1 Grand Prix eventSSSSSS (plural) are held as adrenaline packed, tire smoked filled weekendSSSSSS (plural) with wheel to wheel, head-to-head matchEEESSSSS (matches is plural and head-to-head implies both cars are at the claimed speeds) between drivers drifting inches apart at speeds in excess of 120mph (plural).

All I ask is when this has ever been the case, especially in the US.

[Bebop]

The Vegas event they had a alot of drivers entering at 100+mph.

I don't like the claim for both companies in general. Especially at sonoma when the course goes from 100 to 30mph in seconds. But I guess its just marketing.

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!

[my 1 88 u]

Originally Posted by SSmith

All the D1 haters just chill a bit.. let it all play out. After all it's a free market, let D1 do what they want. If they deliver, that's good, fans have another option to entertain themselves. If they don't, fans still have another option to watch drifting.
FD fan boys are like Apple telling Android what they can or can't do with their phones. Just look how scared Apple is toward the competition when HTC release the Android phones. Let the market decide which series is better and let each series strive to be better than the other so it'll be good for the fans who pay to go see these events.

That analogy is just ridiculous. The market did decide and iPhones out number Android phones 3 to one, in the US. Android is an operating system that has many competing device manufacturers while Apple makes it's own OS and devices. If you compare all apple iOS devices (iPod touch, iPhone, iPad), the apps available and the number of users and developers world wide, the comparison with Google Android is a joke.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20006889-37.html

I do like the kickstand on the Evo 4G though. I suppose it makes for easy wan@#$g

Back to the subject. I'm with Slapshotnerd, @#$@ D1.

[Bebop]

Lies, Lies, Lies, LIES!!!!!


D1 rep, come on here and lets talk... whats up with this?

[DriftyMcGee]

First – thank you for your posting. Let me address your statements and concerns as best I can.

As you have pointed out – this is 2010 – another new year and season of racing is underway...and this means that D1 will have an even harder time of correcting the mistakes of the past – but please know that this is goal 1. We understand people’s skepticism and acknowledge that only time and actions will prove 2010 to be what everyone wants to see from D1.

Let me further address some of your comments more specifically.

“Tantrums and Trophy Trashing”.
I don’t want to dismiss this as overstated – but simply put.... drivers on both shores are comprised of talent that are for the most part well intentioned – but often misguided in their actions or words. The drift organizations in both the US and Japan should not be condemned for a single driver’s actions.

“Late Season”
I appreciate your willingness to accept a late season and late season notice and acknowledge that there are others who may not. To put this into perspective – the new D1 partnership wanted to act conservatively this year given the ‘empty promises’ of the past. As you will note – a televised D1 show was promised last year and then never delivered on. This promise came directly from the organizer and as honest as he was in his desire to deliver on that promise – it does take considerable efforts to put together a lucrative television deal – and this did not manifest for him, and as you have pointed out – there should have been no blowing smoke about it until it was real. That is not the case this year. As you will note from the press release – the new D1 organization is being headed by leaders in the television industry (an important difference between this and any other year)...Bob Cook is the former president of 20 Century Fox and Sam Johnson is a 20 year veteran in television marketing. They simply wanted to have every i dotted and t crossed before announcing anything. Simply put – they wanted it to be ‘real’...no more promises. Ink needed to be on the paper before they would move forward with any announcement because they were determined to not do what had been done previously. That is now the case. Speed has made a very serious commitment to D1 as they are also interested in growing the next generation of top motor sport. Also of important note – D1 Worldwide Entertainment is not only bringing the US held events to Speed – but televising the entire season of D1 as it unfolds in Japan as well. This is a first.

“Drivers for D1 2010”
Yes the race season is half over – and this alone will assist in making available many of the top drivers as most D1 events will happen after their other commitments finish. Other important considerations that will be weighed up by drivers (in particular those who have sponsors) is that this series is televised. A full hour long 15 part series that will not only cover the races – but will feature drivers, their shops, their sponsors and more. This value will not be ignored by drivers as sponsors will want to be part of that massive exposure. Another important difference will be the purse – this will be considerably more than we have ever seen in the sport. Again – a new effort to help elevate this to the professional level that other motor sports enjoy.

“Judging and Announcing”
We share your concerns about ‘quality judging’ and appreciate your suggestions – we are considering these as well as other options and will make an announcement as early as we possibly can.

“Image”
You make some very good points with regard to D1 and its main US competitor. We have a ton of respect for what they have done for the sport and their series in particular. But rather than focus on how D1 will position themselves in the drift community here in the US – we will focus solely on bringing D1 as it exists in Japan to US events and to the American television audience. D1 will succeed and survive as they have for over a decade by developing a US counterpart that is on par with the Japanese. This is not going to happen quickly – but it will be the objective and it will be both competitive and entertaining. That is all we can do.

“Television”
Your comments are likely shared by others – but that does not make them true. In fact – the American partners in D1 Worldwide Entertainment are comprised of television executives with decades of experience within that industry and their efforts will be to put together an entertaining product that will appeal to both long time fans, avid enthusiasts, as well as to develop a whole new audience.

[Slapshotnerd]

3 questions:

1 - who are you?
2 - how is this regime any different than the broken promises we've gotten over the past 3 years?
3 - is my open letter to D1 worthy of a response?

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by Slapshotnerd

3 questions:

1 - who are you?
2 - how is this regime any different than the broken promises we've gotten over the past 3 years?
3 - is my open letter to D1 worthy of a response?

Poor, Jacob, not a rockstar in the eyes of D1 like Blaze is. (I kid, I kid!)

But in all seriousness, I have the same questions and would like to bring up a few more.

1. What is your response to Wrecked Magazine's blog post about your information packet?

2. Who created that packet and where did they get their information?

3. Why was the packet approved if there was serious misinformation listed?

[delicious steve]

Originally Posted by blaze1

Quote from speedhunters

Captain Insano said:

Same story at AMS apparently.

"No deal has been signed with AMS or TMS.

Ted Austad
AMS Events"

[Bebop]

I did the same thing, called venues as "a publicist for a drifting magazine" and got no D1gp on schedule. One person didn't know what D1gp was.

To the D1gp rep

Thanks for the response, but there are more questions that need to be answered.

We have a ton of respect for what they have done for the sport and their series in particular.

Showing respect by giving sponsors false information (complete lies) about your competitor? Srsly?

[SSmith]

Suggestion for D1 haters...DON'T COME TO THE EVENT!!....
If you hate D1 so much, bashing them will do you no good, just don't show up to any of the events or buy any of the merchandise, save some bucks.. instead of just bashing D1 with no ends in sight. Grow up for a change....
If D1 delivers as advertised, all power to them...hopefully, FD will step up their game and thus fans will be benefited from both leagues putting on the best show.

Best of luck to D1, hopefully it is a change for the better

[Piner]

Well I couldn't even go to one of their events if I wanted to so im not really loosing out

[fast-datsun]

No one hates D1 Just what they have done to teams and drivers. Teams tell sponsors what races they well be at for sponsors plans and when race do not come to pass sponsors do not care why race did not happen its the TEAMS problem. We worked with D1 for 6 years and they cx races every year causing many problems with sponsors and funding. If they can ever get it together for 2 years in a row them most will come back but schedules must be planned and out by SEMA and they ""must"" meet all there commetments if they want quality driver to come back. It is all up to them to show they really want to make this happen.......

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by fast-datsun

No one hates D1 Just what they have done to teams and drivers.

No one hates D1...hmm...reading this thread seems to indicate otherwise.

[Bebop]

Originally Posted by SSmith

No one hates D1...hmm...reading this thread seems to indicate otherwise.

2 people that say F%#$ D1

Same people who have still gone to the events

Overall anger, not hate.

JUST SAYING...

[courantcom]

Originally Posted by Piner

ust like Anaheim was "the biggest track buildout in drifting history" when it was obviously much smaller than Redbull's track.

The Redbull track was absolutely amazing. There were no resources of any kind at that location except for "pavement". Everything was brought to that large slab of asphalt...EVERYTHING (including any kind of electricity and potable water). Even the people were shuttle bussed to and from the location.

[Bebop]

ok....

less the a month and a half away

we need:

Potential Japanese drivers list

English Rulebook

Ticket pricing and ordering