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Old 08-31-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
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JUSTIN PAWLAK & Falken Team Manager JONATHON BRADFORD on MotoIQ Radio


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ANNOUNCEMENT: Tonight 7pm PST on MotoIQ Radio: Falken's Justin Pawlak & Team Manager Jonathon Bradford

Tonight learn about what it's like to run the mighty Team Falken, with Hosts Will Cannady and Justin Banner. You can hear what really happened at Team Falken in Vegas and hear the story from JTP himself to clear his reputation after another media outlet "Wrecked" it!
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Justin - did you write that caption?

you won't get very far by trashing other publications...
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Justin - did you write that caption?

you won't get very far by trashing other publications...
No, I did not write that caption, however, the actions of certain web-a-zines were uncalled for. To blog a story of JTP forcing Tyler out of the car when that was 100% untrue and did not research before posting it is what will keep people from getting further than TMZ type coverage.
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Really sweet interview, I got alot of respect for J-Brad and that was a brave but smart decision he made. As far as the whole TMZ of drifting goes I will say it like this, who else is bringing in up to date fairly (or shall I say sometimes) accurate news? Yes the folks over there do exaggerate to try to sell the story a bit but no one else is putting the info out there. The teams often take a long time to release watered down press releases. Sponsors are also gagging some of the teams from releasing alot of exciting information. And Formula D says it themselves that they don't want to air out teams "dirty laundry". For a "top rank" "premier" motorsport direct news from team/sponsor/sanctioning body is hard to come by and or slow.
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No, I did not write that caption, however, the actions of certain web-a-zines were uncalled for. To blog a story of JTP forcing Tyler out of the car when that was 100% untrue and did not research before posting it is what will keep people from getting further than TMZ type coverage.

I am officially over you guys crying at MotoIQ this week. I get you that you guys are just shills for Falken Tire but WE get it already. Before you take all the words here and twist them around I like all of you guys at MotoIQ and I read the website.


Here is the original post:
http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/blog/...-for-practice/

The one sentence in the whole post about Justin:
"With the help of Team Falken he removed Tyler McQuarrie from the Nissan 350z and ran practice in his car."

Even after current knowledge that is 50% accurate.


A- I did reporting and research on the post before it was made. I wasn't even at the track on Thursday night and that is when the post went live. Apparently we didn't make the whole thing up since Tyler wasn't driving his car this weekend.

B- Let me offer you a timeline of my events:

I received a text from another team spotter at 11:33pm that JTP was driving the 350z. I was at a bar in The Palms and quickly got back to my hotel room (much to the dismay of my guests I was hosting). The first post I typed up around 3:00am PST in Las Vegas after waiting for Tyler McQuarrie and nine others to text me back (phone calls after midnight just seemed rude). Some did reply with information (including a member of Falken Tire) with some information about events taken place. I launched a post out at 9:41am releasing the information about the car swap. The original post even says I reached out to Tyler McQuarrie for a comment but he didn't reply to me.

Justin Pawlak called me according to my call log at 1:34pm. I will leave our conversation private but long story short he asked me to speak with J Brad directly so I took down his cell phone and called him once I returned to my hotel room at 2:28pm. J Brad was in route to the track and asked to call me back when he arrived at the track. Instead of going back out to gamble and have fun I waited in my hotel room for a call back. I received once at 3:00pm on the dot and we spoke about the situation from his hands as a team director. I proceeded to make sure it was okay to publicize parts of our conversation and I posted an update at 3:43pm that looked like this:

"UPDATE 3:43pm – After talking to J Brad (Team Falken Motorsports Director) he has informed me that Justin Pawlak was not involved in the decision to remove Tyler. He said it was solely a team call made by him (a hard one at that). J Brad informed me that we can do a fan question based interview sometime after this event so look out for a post on the website. This will shed some more light on this deal."



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Joey, this is what we have the most beef with in that report:

"Justin Pawlak blew an engine yesterday at the track and apparently really wanted some seat time at the Thursday night practice. With the help of Team Falken he removed Tyler McQuarrie from the Nissan 350z and ran practice in his car. At one point Justin almost looked like he was going to crash the Nissan 350z which could of sidelined Tyler McQuarrie for the whole weekend."

Right away, the first sentence throws JTP under the bus. This also isn't the first time you've "reported" something without acutally researching it first, if you recall the "Active Aero" accusation at Seattle with Tyler's car. You also continue to attack Falken and JTP with you speculation post "Tyler McQuarrie Was Screwed Out of A Championship Chance – By the Numbers." Then there are the constant squabbles you have against Formula Drift and the back and forth you have had with Ryan Sage in the past, so sorry if you're past kind of makes me less trustworthy of your reporting and call your information "TMZ like." However, if you continue to use our work, as you did in ""Falken Tire S15 Getting Prepped for 2012 with a V8," then your work could be far more accurate.

Now, I do agree with Bebop and am looking at getting a 4G capable wireless modem for my laptop so I can start doing some same day type coverage, but at the same time if you don't have all the facts, don't do a post like that. If you reported that JTP's car was no longer running and that they were using Tyler's car as a backup and have more information later, that probably would have been a better post and not made JTP the villian.

As far as being a shill for Falken, not really. I sell more Nexen tires at work than I do Falkens, and Michelins over the Nexens. I have not done any work with them and they don't pay us to do anything, hell as far as I know, Falken doesn't even advertise with us currently. Nitto, on the other hand, does advertise with us and we welcome anyone else that wants to, contact us at MotoIQ, including Falken Tire, and we will be glad to advertise you.

Yes, we did get access to Falken's hospitality tent, but then again one of our photographers passed out and the Falken tent was the next closest tent to the Media Center. If I were to use your anology about us and Falken with you, I'd have to say you hate Falken Tire, JTP, and Formula Drift. I know you don't, so I won't say that.

So, Joey, there you have it, why we are picking on you about the JTP/Tyler/Falken issue. It's not that we hate you, we just want you to post the most accurate information you can and not just "50%" accurate information.


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I am officially over you guys crying at MotoIQ this week. I get you that you guys are just shills for Falken Tire but WE get it already. Before you take all the words here and twist them around I like all of you guys at MotoIQ and I read the website.


Here is the original post:
http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/blog/...-for-practice/

The one sentence in the whole post about Justin:
"With the help of Team Falken he removed Tyler McQuarrie from the Nissan 350z and ran practice in his car."

Even after current knowledge that is 50% accurate.


A- I did reporting and research on the post before it was made. I wasn't even at the track on Thursday night and that is when the post went live. Apparently we didn't make the whole thing up since Tyler wasn't driving his car this weekend.

B- Let me offer you a timeline of my events:

I received a text from another team spotter at 11:33pm that JTP was driving the 350z. I was at a bar in The Palms and quickly got back to my hotel room (much to the dismay of my guests I was hosting). The first post I typed up around 3:00am PST in Las Vegas after waiting for Tyler McQuarrie and nine others to text me back (phone calls after midnight just seemed rude). Some did reply with information (including a member of Falken Tire) with some information about events taken place. I launched a post out at 9:41am releasing the information about the car swap. The original post even says I reached out to Tyler McQuarrie for a comment but he didn't reply to me.

Justin Pawlak called me according to my call log at 1:34pm. I will leave our conversation private but long story short he asked me to speak with J Brad directly so I took down his cell phone and called him once I returned to my hotel room at 2:28pm. J Brad was in route to the track and asked to call me back when he arrived at the track. Instead of going back out to gamble and have fun I waited in my hotel room for a call back. I received once at 3:00pm on the dot and we spoke about the situation from his hands as a team director. I proceeded to make sure it was okay to publicize parts of our conversation and I posted an update at 3:43pm that looked like this:

"UPDATE 3:43pm – After talking to J Brad (Team Falken Motorsports Director) he has informed me that Justin Pawlak was not involved in the decision to remove Tyler. He said it was solely a team call made by him (a hard one at that). J Brad informed me that we can do a fan question based interview sometime after this event so look out for a post on the website. This will shed some more light on this deal."



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Old 09-01-2011, 10:22 AM   #9
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How long have you been working as media, Justin?

How long do you think Joey has been working as media?

I think he knows what he's doing. I know you're trying to impress your new employer by posting a site that formerly employed you, but you really shouldn't.

Joey knows what he's doing. He knows he's stirring the pot..... and that's why people visit Wrecked. They want to get the unfiltered story, before the vanilla press release gets sent out to everybody. Lots of people were at the track and saw JTP driving the Z, and it was definitely newsworthy. Maybe his choice of words weren't up to your standards (remind me how long you've been doing this?) but Joey jumped thru a few hoops to try and get the details. When people didn't return his phone calls, he made a post based on the information he had available to him at the time, which he later updated as information became available.

Seriously, Justin. Slow your roll.
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I've been working in Media for about 4 years now. I don't know how long Joey has been doing this and I don't care as that isn't the point. The point is he is posting sensationalism, not news or reports. Sensationalism is tabloid journalism, not professional journalism. Just because Joey may have been doing this for years and years doesn't mean he's been doing it right, you know, kind of like how just because NASCAR has been using carbuerators for years and years doesn't make it right.

Was JTP driving the Z newsworthy, yes it was, but I was also at the track and knew what was going on, asked the guys there, and was able to get the correct information instead of just trying to rely on telephone calls, texts, and emails. I didn't leave the track until 2:30am or so on Thursday.

Even when I can't make a Thursday, I still talk to everyone I can and don't say anything about something until I get all of the information straight first. Common sense dictates that and that shouldn't take years to learn.
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I've been working in Media for about 4 years now. I don't know how long Joey has been doing this and I don't care as that isn't the point. The point is he is posting sensationalism, not news or reports. Sensationalism is tabloid journalism, not professional journalism. Just because Joey may have been doing this for years and years doesn't mean he's been doing it right, you know, kind of like how just because NASCAR has been using carbuerators for years and years doesn't make it right.

Was JTP driving the Z newsworthy, yes it was, but I was also at the track and knew what was going on, asked the guys there, and was able to get the correct information instead of just trying to rely on telephone calls, texts, and emails. I didn't leave the track until 2:30am or so on Thursday.

Even when I can't make a Thursday, I still talk to everyone I can and don't say anything about something until I get all of the information straight first. Common sense dictates that and that shouldn't take years to learn.
What time did you make the post? Oh wait, you didn't. Who else made a post? I re-tweeted the Wrecked tweet the next morning, but the outlet I was working for really doesn't do blog-style posts like Wrecked does. Speedhunters mentioned it in their post at 2pm on Friday. MotoIQ didn't say anything until Monday.

Joey posted the information that was available faster than any other outlet, and something tells me that his traffic reflected it on Friday. Looks like he had 25 comments before Speedhunters picked it up. Even Drifting.com didn't post anything about it, and forums tend to be way more 'tabloid' than a blog is.

As much as everyone trashes "Wrecked" for being a tabloid, the fact is that EVERYONE in this industry reads Wrecked on a weekly if not daily basis, the majority of his stories are true (even this one was MOSTLY true, minus 1 or 2 small items that weren't clear at the time but surmised), and Joey has the support of his advertisers. He's doing something right, and just like your NASCAR analogy, you can either learn to like it, or learn to ignore it.

I'd venture so far as to say that people like Joey and his work a lot better than they like you and your work. so be careful with how you proceed.
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What time did you make the post? Oh wait, you didn't. Who else made a post? I re-tweeted the Wrecked tweet the next morning, but the outlet I was working for really doesn't do blog-style posts like Wrecked does. Speedhunters mentioned it in their post at 2pm on Friday. MotoIQ didn't say anything until Monday.

Joey posted the information that was available faster than any other outlet, and something tells me that his traffic reflected it on Friday. Looks like he had 25 comments before Speedhunters picked it up. Even Drifting.com didn't post anything about it, and forums tend to be way more 'tabloid' than a blog is.
But for as fast as he got it out, he had to correct it. To me, I'd rather take a little more time and be right than get it out as fast as I can and come out looking like a fool.

That's my opinion and obviously, you disagree with that. That's fine and if you respect Joey because of that, I don't have an issue with that and I realize that you will never appreciate my work. I don't force anyone to read my stuff, just as Joey doesn't, either. Like I said, I don't hate him and I don't think he's evil, I just think he's wrong.

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I'd venture so far as to say that people like Joey and his work a lot better than they like you and your work. so be careful with how you proceed.
I'd venture to say you are right, but not for the reason you're thinking. I believe my audience is different than his and will have a totally different way of thinking than his does. I'm probably never going to convince his fans to be fans of mine, just like he will probably never convince my fans to be fans of his.
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Rather have a Drifting Grudge Match, kind of like Drag Racing, you know?
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Ok Joey,

Let me make this clear, Justin was not responsible for the Wrecked comment, I did it. I thought it was pretty funny but sorry if it pissed you off. If you and your fans are super mad, please direct that toward me, Justin had nothing to do with it.

For the record, I like Wrecked a lot and read it almost every day, the guys at Wrecked do have some really good stuff that is useful information. Credit must be given where it is due.

I would like the record straight, at least how I see it.

1. We are not shrills for Falken. I am sure most people know I am a consultant for Falken but as far as MotoIQ goes, I am pretty sure Falken will not advertise with us any time soon, if they do I would sure welcome it but currently they don't. Currently they consider us to small to be worth the investment.
2. I am good friends with JTP (at least away from the track I am, at an event we are gunning for him!). The editorial portrayed JTP in a very negative light, in my opinion unfairly. He was distraught about it and it really hurt him when he read all the hate mail and got booed in the Top 16 among other things.
3. I knew this was not how things went down, I mean I was right there, I saw first hand how JBrad was pained to make the decision and how Tyler and JTP were both not happy campers. Like I said I was there as the events happened. Justin spoke to all parties involved and got a well rounded view of things.

So I thought it would be cool to allow JTP himself and JBrad to explain the real story of what happened. I would do it for any driver or team manager. I admit I did poke fun at Wrecked because I thought it was funny but I guess you don't think so. In that case I apologize to you and your fans but I think you owe JTP an apology as well. Maybe you should give him a call. I am serious about that.

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I love motoiq and it's a fantastic website that is catered to the enthusiast that understands functionality is the basis for motorsports competition and is probably one of the very few that understands that. Mike Kojima is an amazing engineer and his expertise is evident in his work and his site. I have nothing but the upmost respect for him and the people of motoiq. that being said, remind me what team he works for? perhaps all the articles on the site should be prefaced with a disclaimer that Mr. Kojima is paid, on staff at Falken, so that people can be warned of possible bias? The cheap shot at a different website is in poor taste, especially when you take into account that the article was updated long before the motoiq article was posted and even worse when you take into account that a Falken team member is the creator and would have had first hand access to the information long before anyone else. So in my profesional opinion, directly referencing a publication is poor form. Mr. Kojima and Sir Redmond should sing kumbaya around a smoking drift tire.
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I admit that I was not thinking that far into it, I just thought it was a clever pun. If anyone thinks it was in bad taste and if Joey is mad, I am the one to blame, not Justin. I am really sorry Joey, I love you! Please call JTP.

I did not create the MotoIQ FD article, What I did write was not an article just a one paragraph header for our radio show. The header is what the boys at Wrecked have taken offense to. I am a Falken team member but Justin wrote the FD coverage it not me. I don't think anything about Wrecked was mentioned there. So any offense is purely my fault I believe.

I do not think what Justin does is bad journalism it is more like accurate journalism. I don't report on FD because I am too busy to do my normal job which is helping the team win, I don't need outside distractions. That's why Justin does FD coverage and I don't. At events I hardly see him or any of the MotoIQ staff!

Yes I do work for Falken and MotoIQ but the Falken check goes to me and not MotoIQ. If anything people should accuse us of being bought by Nitto since they are advertisers but I suppose that will be coming soon enough though. Most bigger sites including Wrecked have advertisers.

I would give any other team an opportunity to have an opposing view point as well.

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Joey knows what he's doing. He knows he's stirring the pot..... and that's why people visit Wrecked. They want to get the unfiltered story, before the vanilla press release gets sent out to everybody
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I know a LOT of people that read wrecked because it IS the most-updated and quickest updated site. Everyone knows the pot is always stirred over there, and quite honestly its pretty funny/fun to read the stuff, and troll on there.

Read Jalopnik, Autoblog, or any actually popular blog. You HAVE TO stir the pot(whole JTP thing)/poke fun at things (active aero)/post the latest info.

Wrecked does a great job at all three. You have to have enough common sense to know what goes on over there most of the time.

Bringing up the "Active Aero" thing at all here really illegitimizes any claim you're trying to make, that post was clearly, clearly a joke and something to add some content, which readers like myself do like. Its something to laugh at, and bring up later. The 'black wheel' thing has by far been my favorite post-for-absolutely-no-reason because while it is 100% a stupid discussion, its genuinely a comical point brought up that can be a fun topic at events/between events. That is unless you have an upcoming appointment at a proctologist, then everything might just seem dumb.

Wrecked does a great job being an informative, and fun resource to keep tabs on whats going on in drifting for fanboy's like myself who genuinely like the sport. Its the only site I know of that is normally updated on a daily basis, and like stated earlier, the only site that had any info on FD events as they occurred through the weekend.

The only thing Wrecked needs to improve on is some sort of log-in like on Autoblog. The fake-posting is the only thing that site has going negative for it.


Also worth noting, Wrecked has a 3rd gen Camaro. And posts about Forza sometime. Thats real driffin right there. 'Merica.

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MotoIQ is also updated on a daily basis and we are proudly very different from Wrecked. I am not saying that we are better, but we are about as opposite as you can be. We are more into details and not so much the other stuff. MotoIQ does not cover just drifting either but if you want to find out how to do stuff in the drift world as a participant and how things are done from a mechanical standpoint, I think we are hard to beat.

Wrecked is really good entertainment and good at finding out useful to me information like course layouts. They usually find out about stuff like this first. I look at Wrecked almost every day because of this unless I am super busy.

I really take offense to suggestions that we alter news because of bias as was suggested. I think our content is good and solid, industry leading. Of course that is a biased opinion because its mine and I work there but it's what I live by and we have a stellar reputation in the industry. Most of the people in the industry read our site.

To suggest that Falken has control over everything I write is pretty out their as well. If you really read our site, I think you would have to have a real active imagination to think we are biased towards Falken.

Anyway enough of this nonsense, haters are gonna hate and nothing I say will sway them. Like I am found of saying, if you really hate our site the best thing to do is don't go there! I am done, I am pretty busy, I have to help win a championship and their is a lot of work to be done!
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I want to tape a roundtable discussion between the writers of Wrecked, writers of MotoIQ, Jacob, Speedhunters, and MotorMavens.

Then take bets on how long everyone thinks it would take for the discusson to turn into an all out no-holds-barred brawl.

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