D1 W/ FF Car

racing2khaos · 10-18-2004, 03:10 PM

so i heard d1 only allowed FF And RW only so why i never seen a FF??? It suck they need to pay attention to the FF Drifter... I have a dream that one day some one will be drifting FF in D1 and that would be me!!!!(Please no autograph!!!)

young gun · 10-18-2004, 04:15 PM

cause a ff layout sucks compared to fr, slower ugly drifts, cant link turns, botom line the cars couldent qualify

zdss14 · 10-18-2004, 04:21 PM

exactly, just not competitive

RotaDrift · 10-18-2004, 05:54 PM

oh...oh...oh....and your schooled

thank you, come again

bluballz · 10-18-2004, 08:20 PM

actually if you watch some d1 events there are some FF cars, but they never qualify. the main set back w/ FF is exit speed. FF suck at exit speeds.

Velvet · 10-18-2004, 08:28 PM

There should be a separate class of the D1 that consists of FF drifters. This will alow FF drifting to grow and as a result make people take it more seriously. Although FF drifting is nothing compared to FR drifting it is something that should be respected when done properly and not dismissed just because its different. One day there will be a guy who drifts a FF really well and all those who bad-mouth FF drifting will be scilenced. racing2khaos, go for your dream and make people stop sh!t taliing FF drifting...

racing2khaos · 10-18-2004, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by bluballz
actually if you watch some d1 events there are some FF cars, but they never qualify. the main set back w/ FF is exit speed. FF suck at exit speeds.

Amen my brother!!! thats true i been thinking of that. and all of you guys who said bad thing about ff drift car they probly dont even know how to drift w/ it. So Any FF drifter keep your dream up and be proud of your car, it maybe a FF but probly you could drift better than most FR, and their wanna be ego cause they got a FR!!!

pork_poney · 10-18-2004, 10:43 PM

I'll get my balls flamed off for saying this, but i don't think FF drifting should even be allowed (at d1 i mean, to each his own elsewhere). Everyone says it like, oh well it's harder. I don't think it's harder like an mr2 is harder than a trueno, i just think it's ghetto. It's hard to pick up radio stations with that coat hanger... catch my drift? and no, i don't "got a fr" or an ff, so don't flame me for talking big. I'll be the first to say I've no skills whatsoever.

Sideways Spanky · 10-19-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by pork_poney
I'll get my balls flamed off for saying this, but i don't think FF drifting should even be allowed (at d1 i mean, to each his own elsewhere). Everyone says it like, oh well it's harder. I don't think it's harder like an mr2 is harder than a trueno, i just think it's ghetto. It's hard to pick up radio stations with that coat hanger... catch my drift? and no, i don't "got a fr" or an ff, so don't flame me for talking big. I'll be the first to say I've no skills whatsoever.

That's right. FF drivers always 13itch about not getting the respect of the FR drivers, but think about it! Drifting was made for FR and possible MR or RR (Rear engine, located behind back axle. Not sure if this is the correct term or not.) I know this is hard to swallow, but you can't drift with a front-engined, front-drive layout! It's impossible! Drifting is: an oversteer, in which the vehicle is powered through a corner by the spinning wheels. You cannot power through a corner with only the front wheels spinning! It's not because the FF drivers don't have talent, which many do, like Pierre Kleinubing, it's just that FF cars can not drift. Please, stop whining about FF not getting the drifting respect it deserves. Go do autocross or something.

racing2khaos · 10-19-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Sideways Spanky
That's right. FF drivers always 13itch about not getting the respect of the FR drivers, but think about it! Drifting was made for FR and possible MR or RR (Rear engine, located behind back axle. Not sure if this is the correct term or not.) I know this is hard to swallow, but you can't drift with a front-engined, front-drive layout! It's impossible! Drifting is: an oversteer, in which the vehicle is powered through a corner by the spinning wheels. You cannot power through a corner with only the front wheels spinning! It's not because the FF drivers don't have talent, which many do, like Pierre Kleinubing, it's just that FF cars can not drift. Please, stop whining about FF not getting the drifting respect it deserves. Go do autocross or something.

i still dont think so... i seen some fr drifting and still i could do the same thing... drifting is an oversteer game, so it maybe the power transfer of ff is not as good as fr. i know fr drifting is that the front wheel is strickly for steering direction and the back is for powering the drift... and bad thing for ff is that both is combining of steering and the powering the car. but my point is that anything is driftable even a freakin TRUCK!!! as long as you turning an oversteer car...

SolidAxleSlide · 10-19-2004, 04:16 PM

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allow FF drifting to grow

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh I"m sorry was that not meant to be funny?

SolidAxleSlide · 10-19-2004, 04:29 PM

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allow FF drifting to grow

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh I"m sorry was that not meant to be funny?

Ris4drift · 10-19-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Sideways Spanky
That's right. FF drivers always 13itch about not getting the respect of the FR drivers, but think about it! Drifting was made for FR and possible MR or RR (Rear engine, located behind back axle. Not sure if this is the correct term or not.) I know this is hard to swallow, but you can't drift with a front-engined, front-drive layout! It's impossible! Drifting is: an oversteer, in which the vehicle is powered through a corner by the spinning wheels. You cannot power through a corner with only the front wheels spinning! It's not because the FF drivers don't have talent, which many do, like Pierre Kleinubing, it's just that FF cars can not drift. Please, stop whining about FF not getting the drifting respect it deserves. Go do autocross or something.

your an idiot. sorry you dont know anythign about wieght transfer. im glad another e-drifter got his lame $.02 in. you can drift fwd, but its darn near impossible to carry speed.

Ris4drift · 10-19-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Velvet
There should be a separate class of the D1 that consists of FF drifters. This will alow FF drifting to grow and as a result make people take it more seriously. Although FF drifting is nothing compared to FR drifting ...

1) you just answered your own question on why you wont see it.

2) ff drift IS respected. Drifting.com is NOT compromised of REAL drifters. if anyone shows up at an event and drifts anythign they get respect. on drifting.com its a bunch of people driving civics/nissan trucks posting stuff they google searched in the e-drifter championship.

i still do not understand the point of therads like this. or any the threads here. go to an event and drift. stop posting, get out there and drift/learn to drift at an event and prove something.

variant · 10-20-2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Ris4drift

Drifting.com is NOT compromised of REAL drifters.

go to an event and drift. stop posting

i agree with those, but I don't respect ff "Drifting"

Velvet · 10-20-2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Ris4drift

stop posting, get out there and drift/learn to drift at an event and prove something.

I just beat Grand Turismo on the hardest setting! I've got skilz!

OK, I'll stop now.

variant · 10-20-2004, 07:29 PM

gee..i wonder why there's no FF cars winning d1 :|

racing2khaos · 10-20-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by variant
gee..i wonder why there's no FF cars winning d1 :|

ok ok!!! stop being a hater!!! i know why ff is slower and fr is faster... but you know most drifter is so stuck up in their fr saying that its the best, but the real thing most of them just stuck up with what every other people think like "ohh ff suck!!!". yeah some of them never drift or even drive be saying like that stupid zhit.... ehh i hope your not one of this guy!!! that you are fr driver cause you see the potential of the car, instead of some dumb people say.... and im just a drifter w/ ff car thats just want to try something else that nobody have done... plus im bored to see most car is 240sx in d1!!!

FF Drifter · 10-21-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by racing2khaos
ok ok!!! stop being a hater!!! i know why ff is slower and fr is faster... but you know most drifter is so stuck up in their fr saying that its the best, but the real thing most of them just stuck up with what every other people think like "ohh ff suck!!!". yeah some of them never drift or even drive be saying like that stupid zhit.... ehh i hope your not one of this guy!!! that you are fr driver cause you see the potential of the car, instead of some dumb people say.... and im just a drifter w/ ff car thats just want to try something else that nobody have done... plus im bored to see most car is 240sx in d1!!!

That's totally the point. We just wanna make something different

pork_poney · 10-21-2004, 08:01 PM

Well, i give you guys props for standing up to all this. You are true enthusiasts, and if you want to go ff, so be it. I just personally will probably always end up with fr. I like the balance better in most fr's. personally, i think fr is where it should be though. The fr IS more suited for sustained drifts, and no one can argue that. The ability to sustain a drift relies partly on the capabilities of the vehicle. And no, a drift has nothing to do with spinning tires. It's something about an altered path of an intentional course or something. in short, all it is is driving a car around a corner with less resistance than that other guy. So yes, ff can drift. monster trucks can drift. your daddy's t-bucket can drift. I just think what you see drifting professionaly IS drifting pro because it's more suited towards that job.

Ris4drift · 10-26-2004, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by variant
i agree with those, but I don't respect ff "Drifting"

thats ignorant.

http://crabdrifting.com/pictures/cv4.wmv

do you not respect taht guy?

am i suppost to respect you for posting on drifting.com about what YOU respect as a drifter? i dont even respect myself for trying to post here sometimes.

you can drift FF, it just takes skill. and i highly doubt anyone else in this thread has really drifted ff, because if you did, and you ahd access to a rwd car you would be sponsored by now. why these threads keep going i find sad, and im gonna spare myself from clicking on the high schooler who started a thread about drifting a dodge caravan

D1 Ali · 10-30-2004, 01:53 AM

I agree, FF is not the true sense of what drifting has become.
But I love GymKhana as much as I love drift, and in so loving both have also found a place for my FF and love of drift. It's harder than hell to change direction, and I'm happier driving my buddy David's 240's than my car for any real drift action, but I'll tell you, FF is possible and I've done it, as a matter of fact I just won my first Gymkhana event I ever went to, and they straight teach you how to drift anything, FF, FR, unicycle...
The following picture is of me in the canyons taking a turn with entry speed of about 60mph. Its a clean J turn with a downhill slope easy to shift weight, however true to fact, my exit speed was substantially slower, however, I've learned a new trick akin to kickin the clutch with an FR with the FF that actually helps in minimizing the exit loss, maybe i'll do an article on it...

R2K · 10-31-2004, 09:54 PM

dude i was drifting w/ my FF and this is what happened!!!