NiCK HOGAN CRASHES VIPER

[simplyxlost]

so today at irwindale was formula D qualifying sessions. and yea, lots of crashing.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GINeKahrFt0

[Slapshotnerd]

what took you so long to post the video?!

[brainfood]

Oh that was horrible that was the worst irwindale run I have ever seen. And thats why I am soooo sad I missed it

[Bebop]

Originally Posted by brainfood

Oh that was horrible that was the worst irwindale run I have ever seen. And thats why I am soooo sad I missed it

Everyone else was looking good except him, even the privateers at the drift day looked better...well more confident anyways.

The original course layout they had.... hardest course in FD history....if not drifting history overall.

[D1 DRIFTER]

hey hey hey now come on guys.. he never said he would qualify give the kid a break.. it must be quite hard to learn on a 500 hp viper.. he was upset u could tell and i felt sorry for the kid whos only what 15-16 years old.. he never promsied us that he would be number one so chill

[Mike Peters]

wow that was....um.....yah


so sam will be debuting the charger in seattle i take it?

i love everyone by the way.

[brainfood]

Exactley so why learn on an 500hp viper there was no reason for that. Plus the accident was sooo newb. it could have been avoided by just simple driving experience, not drifting experience just regular driving it was ridiculous to do that to the viper. Cant buy yourself skill I guess.

Check out Pat's run from Irwindale last time he drove it and I guess that will put an end to the whose the best young driver. He is in the blue '86 about midway. And while Hogan was out wrecking a beautiful car Pat was out driving and winning 1st place in a tandem comp and 4th place in a single elim. comp.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...=818112468&n=2

I'm not trying to be a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* to the kid its just he didnt need to stuff the viper, he could have driven a cheap s13 that it didnt matter if he wrecked. And he probably would have done a lot better in it.

[Bebop]

Originally Posted by brainfood

Exactley so why learn on an 500hp viper there was no reason for that. Plus the accident was sooo newb. it could have been avoided by just simple driving experience, not drifting experience just regular driving it was ridiculous to do that to the viper. Cant buy yourself skill I guess.

Check out Pat's run from Irwindale last time he drove it and I guess that will put an end to the whose the best young driver. He is in the blue '86 about midway. And while Hogan was out wrecking a beautiful car Pat was out driving and winning 1st place in a tandem comp and 4th place in a single elim. comp.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...=818112468&n=2

I'm not trying to be a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* to the kid its just he didnt need to stuff the viper, he could have driven a cheap s13 that it didnt matter if he wrecked. And he probably would have done a lot better in it.

Thats what I was thinking the whole time, 500HP is just too much for a noob like him.

[sdtouge]

nicks a cool kid, but the haters will hate.
the crash wasnt bad at all, he still went out after that i think thats cool and shows something, not sure of what but sometihng. he came up and talked to me in the morning and seemednice and sincere about drifting. the kids gotta be under enormous pressure from forum 'drifters' that talk crap all day (bryan not talking about you, and thanks for returning my call jerk). vh1 was at the event today and seemed to be trying to make people say bad things about nick during interviews at the dd33, and no one really had anything bad to say.

he also had one really good run i got to watch while i was in line to drive, linked the whole course perfect, i was impresed for a 15 year old kid, pat wasnt driving like that at 15. give him a break, if mopar offerd me that deal id take it, as well as anyone else on here.

i was rooting for him
-matt

[Slapshotnerd]

pat's barely 16. same age as Nick (although a bit older by a few months).

I will give Nick credit. After the wreck, there was some pit repairs made, and he finished his runs. 2 of the cars in qualifying weren't able to finish their runs after wrecks. Nick was also at the closing 'ceremony' if you want to call it that (the finals announcement), and he mentioned on the mic that he just got a little rattled, and it wasn't his day.

This is my first time seeing him drive in person. My comments - I'm sure it won't be my last! I hope he pulls through this and sticks to it. Maybe live and learn, but I certainly hope he doesn't give up (maybe just lower his goals slightly to a more realistic, grassroots level)

[D1 DRIFTER]

well said SD i love my patty wagon but pat has had time to hone his skills and irwindale can be a difficult course for ppl who have never drove it

[EverythingDrift]

Here is a on track look at the accident.

Nick's Qualifying Run Crash

Taka still takes the cake for best crash that I have seen an that track.

[Slapshotnerd]

Another video for everybody...

Everything Drift.com video

[Kenrik]

He was scared you can tell from how he was driving, he locked the breaks when what he should have done was give it gas... I really don't know what to say I mean I kind of knew it was going to happen when I first heard about him drifting the Mopar Viper... He seems like a nice enough kid but he driving skills are just not upto par for FD.

I'm not great but i'll still pimp out my video.. lol no crashes in it

http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...0a018a72f5.htm

[MonkeySlide]

Before everyone jumps down the kids throat and tries to say "I told you so"

Cut him some slack.

First of all..its not like that was the first crash at Irwindale...way more experienced people than him have hit the wall.

Earlier during the DD33 He had a mishap with the wall and as a result the steering was screwed. So the crew had to leave the track and do a rush job to fix it.

They ended up having to put stock steering knuckles on the car thus..much less angle than usual...and I believe there were problems with the steering column itself.

It showed for the rest of the day he continued to struggle with the car. Once their practice runs were over they quickly replaced the knuckle with a modified part but were not able to notch out the A-arm so the passenger-side front wheel would rub with more more angle he tried to put into it. A veteran probably wouldn't have cared about that..but it wasn't is car so Im sure that situation made him nervous.

The course layout was EXTREMELY difficult and during the drivers meeting after the practice runs there was almost a unanimous vote to change the course layout to the "D1" configuration.

Each driver was then given 5 practice runs.

Before that crash he wasn't doing to bad..but you could tell that he was being conservative ..probably because he was shaken from the crash earlier.

The crash in the video wasn't as bad as it looked and he drove off and lined up again to continue his runs.

I really think that he might have the potential but tonight just wasn't his night.

So he didn't get his license and he is not on the mopar team..they simply have an arrangement for Nick to use the viper as he continues to try and make his way into Formula-D. Chances are we will see him in the pro-am series next year. Hes serious about trying to get better..in fact he has another practice session this week.

[gogg]

whos logic was this? there was what, a %10 he didnt mess up horribly?

[EverythingDrift]

Originally Posted by MonkeySlide

Before everyone jumps down the kids throat and tries to say "I told you so"

Cut him some slack.

First of all..its not like that was the first crash at Irwindale...way more experienced people than him have hit the wall.

Earlier during the DD33 He had a mishap with the wall and as a result the steering was screwed. So the crew had to leave the track and do a rush job to fix it.

They ended up having to put stock steering knuckles on the car thus..much less angle than usual...and I believe there were problems with the steering column itself.

It showed for the rest of the day he continued to struggle with the car. Once their practice runs were over they quickly replaced the knuckle with a modified part but were not able to notch out the A-arm so the passenger-side front wheel would rub with more more angle he tried to put into it. A veteran probably wouldn't have cared about that..but it wasn't is car so Im sure that situation made him nervous.

The course layout was EXTREMELY difficult and during the drivers meeting after the practice runs there was almost a unanimous vote to change the course layout to the "D1" configuration.

Each driver was then given 5 practice runs.

Before that crash he wasn't doing to bad..but you could tell that he was being conservative ..probably because he was shaken from the crash earlier.

The crash in the video wasn't as bad as it looked and he drove off and lined up again to continue his runs.

I really think that he might have the potential but tonight just wasn't his night.

So he didn't get his license and he is not on the mopar team..they simply have an arrangement for Nick to use the viper as he continues to try and make his way into Formula-D. Chances are we will see him in the pro-am series next year. Hes serious about trying to get better..in fact he has another practice session this week.

Very well put, we know we will see him more and more and look forward to seeing him out at the next event. As long as he keeps doing it he will improve and get to where he wants to be.

[hatebbobbarker]

I think everyones problem with him, is that hes trying to dive right into formula D, instead of paying his dues, I believe this was his first time driving at an event with other people, if he keeps doing that people will grow to like him because he'll be "one of them." still might haveto ditch SOME of the entourage though...

if somethings going to be given to you, show everyone that you deserve it, Verena has definitely proved herself with her Z, and was doing great today until she got sidelined by the wall.

and for the record, if a certain other youngin had the support nick had, hed long since be rocking formula D, like I hear he rocked the just drift comp today.

[sdtouge]

i love pat <3

maybe ill take you two youngings to chucke cheese and you can hang out, would that be fun?

congrats to on finishing in both parts today too at top drift 3. your my hero, and im gonna get you laid, by chas.

[Rob Fleming]

Part of it is paying your dues.

I think its very unsafe of anyone to let someone that new at driving onto a track with that powerful of a car.

I say this all the time with the local drivers, you can teach them to drift, but teaching them gut reaction when things go wrong take a very, very long time.

Why be in such a hurry to get out there? Take your time, drive the thing for a few years, rock some practice events (parking lot, road course). Goto some racing schools. You cant do a cram session on driving.

[GBC]

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[GBC]

Originally Posted by MonkeySlide

Before everyone jumps down the kids throat and tries to say "I told you so"

Cut him some slack.

First of all..its not like that was the first crash at Irwindale...way more experienced people than him have hit the wall.

Earlier during the DD33 He had a mishap with the wall and as a result the steering was screwed. So the crew had to leave the track and do a rush job to fix it.

They ended up having to put stock steering knuckles on the car thus..much less angle than usual...and I believe there were problems with the steering column itself.

It showed for the rest of the day he continued to struggle with the car. Once their practice runs were over they quickly replaced the knuckle with a modified part but were not able to notch out the A-arm so the passenger-side front wheel would rub with more more angle he tried to put into it. A veteran probably wouldn't have cared about that..but it wasn't is car so Im sure that situation made him nervous.

The course layout was EXTREMELY difficult and during the drivers meeting after the practice runs there was almost a unanimous vote to change the course layout to the "D1" configuration.

Each driver was then given 5 practice runs.

Before that crash he wasn't doing to bad..but you could tell that he was being conservative ..probably because he was shaken from the crash earlier.

The crash in the video wasn't as bad as it looked and he drove off and lined up again to continue his runs.

I really think that he might have the potential but tonight just wasn't his night.

So he didn't get his license and he is not on the mopar team..they simply have an arrangement for Nick to use the viper as he continues to try and make his way into Formula-D. Chances are we will see him in the pro-am series next year. Hes serious about trying to get better..in fact he has another practice session this week.

Before he qualified a new set of modified spindles were put on the car, that restored the steering angle. You information is not correct.

I can't comment on the steering column.

[s13/350z]

Everyone wrecks, but at the same time he was going straight and appeared to lock up the brakes...alot of the wrecks happen during a slide or spin, honeslty that crash just looked like inexperinece on what to do, not just an accident that couldnt be avoided.
Of course I would still like to see him practice at some loca events(if he doesnt already), kinda get his intuition built up. I think it would be better for him to learn in a less powerful, and smaller car, but at the same time in the long run the bigger more powerful car will make it easier to get used to less powerful smaller cars...

[MonkeySlide]

Originally Posted by GBC

Before he qualified a new set of modified spindles were put on the car, that restored the steering angle. You information is not correct.

I can't comment on the steering column.

Um no, you just read it incorrectly.

I never said that he qualified on the stock knuckle..I said that for a period of time..he was trying to drift with a stock knuckle and he was struggling with it.

After he crashed the car during drift day..the team left and took the car with them to get it repaired..they were in a hurry..so they put on stock steering knuckles..not modified..but stock..they didn't have the modified steering knuckle with them..that was delievered to the track.

However when it got there..all the drivers were already sent out to the track to do 10 practice laps each on the course layout that they had at that time.

During that time..the stock steering knuckle was on the car. When the session was over..they replaced it...everyone watched them do it while the drivers were at the driver meeting...which is when they voted to change the configuration to the D1 layout.

They were given 5 practice laps on that lay out and then they would qualify..it was from that time on when they had the modified knuckle on the car.

[DriftGirl]

Everybody wrecks....its a part of learning.

Ive seen people say: "I'm glad she wrecked her car". So I can understand (a little), when there are a few people hoping that he fails....I also know what its like to have many,many,many,many more who are supportive.

Trips me out to see the amount of people that hate on him all over the net, when they'd give their right nut to be in his shoes.

Just be happy for the kid.

He will get better