Fox Body Mustang Drifting

[soultron]

This very cool, it's like a full build thread.
Can't wait to see more!
I wish we had this kind of traffic at Domestic Drifting.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by DV19

No, we run stock Mustang spindles that we have modified ourselves...
I know that they have started to make some for roadracing applications that a few guys are R&Ding for them.... From what I've heard, they are nice pieces that appear to be strong enough for the task...

if you dont mind me asking, what do you guys modify on them?

[markshatchi86]

jerm-
generally if you shorten the distance by cutting and welding from where the tie rod end mounts to the spindle will yield a faster turn and more angle.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by markshatchi86

jerm-
generally if you shorten the distance by cutting and welding from where the tie rod end mounts to the spindle will yield a faster turn and more angle.

Ive seen other ppl do that, but looking at sn95 spindes its rather impossbile cause if it foes any further out its just hitting the rotor

[GBC]

Originally Posted by markshatchi86

jerm-
generally if you shorten the distance by cutting and welding from where the tie rod end mounts to the spindle will yield a faster turn and more angle.

Unlike a 240 a mustang is a front steer design with lower A-arms. The limiting factor in steering angle is not steering rack travel, it is caliper to control arm and wheel to control arm interfearance. This can only really be resolved with a custom lower control arm.

Once the rack become the limiter removing the rack spacers, and modifying the inner tie-rods is your next step.

Only once you have done both of those should you have to modify the spindle/steer-arm.

We are changing spindles in order to lower our car more, they will not add any steering angle.

[GBC]

New episode:



The car is now running 250lbs/in rear springs, 600lbs/in fronts, and 2" drop spindles. We are going to get back out the to track in a week.

[soultron]

Did you have Eibach send you custom springs? I wanted to get thier prokit for my car, but it's not very low (not really important ) and not very stiff. I'd like about 250lbs or so for my cars rear, but the prokit is around 177lbs.

[GBC]

We have coilovers on the car, so we are running 2.5 inch id linear springs on the front and 2.25 inch id liner springs on the rear.

I am under the impression that the prokits are non-linear springs so the rates are not a direct comparison.

Also are you running a camaro?

If this is the case, you will need different spring rates.

[soultron]

Well, it's T/A but that's close enough , ha. I'm currently running 618 in the front and about 175 in the rear. 250 or higher just seemed like something to work from. I know the Eibach drag kit for the camaro/firebird has one 217lb progressive rear spring and I've considered asking if I can just get two of those.
Might just leave it until later anyway, it's likely we'll just go with weight jacks.

[P.Haire]

why not just buy what you want and not buy a kit?
http://www.afabcorp.com/AFCO_Dynatec...ode=ct_Springs

[Mars]

what exactly are the race craft ones going to fix? I know they lower car but without really messing with the factory geometery, but they do acutally go beyond that?

[d3p0]

Actually the spindles don't lower the car, that's all in the coilovers. The spindles do help bring the front geometry closer to stock which helps the gain of camber in compression as well as helping reduce bump steer. The spindles also help move the area of travel within the shock's range to a higher and hopefully happier position.

-David

[GBC]

Originally Posted by P.Haire

why not just buy what you want and not buy a kit?
http://www.afabcorp.com/AFCO_Dynatec...ode=ct_Springs

Exactly, that is what we are doing with Eibach. I am pleased with their product.

Looks like we will be trying a slightly softer front spring, as the spindles have allowed us to raise our front roll center to a happier place.

[GBC]

Originally Posted by d3p0

Actually the spindles don't lower the car, that's all in the coilovers. The spindles do help bring the front geometry closer to stock which helps the gain of camber in compression as well as helping reduce bump steer. The spindles also help move the area of travel within the shock's range to a higher and hopefully happier position.

-David

If you did not have coilovers you could use these spindles to lower your car. However considering that these cars are a minimum of 14 years old and need new shocks anyhow, I think picking up a set of coilovers is a good idea.

Since we have coilovers on the car, we kept the ride height the same, but improved our geometry.

[soultron]

Originally Posted by GBC

Exactly, that is what we are doing with Eibach. I am pleased with their product.

Looks like we will be trying a slightly softer front spring, as the spindles have allowed us to raise our front roll center to a happier place.

I think this was more so directed to me, but I am also looking for a way around the kits, i.e weight jacks.

[R.J.]

What happened to the corolla? That's a big step from a corolla to a 'stang. Looks like a lot of fun though.

[GBC]

It's still around. Just time to drive something with some power.

[GBC]

[valvetiming]

haha sweet e brake keep us updated

[GBC]

We put together a website for the mustang buildup, www.drift50.com. The most recent work on the car was an install of an A/C delete and a HD power steering cooler.

We are getting ready for Just Drift Top Drift Battle on the on the 25th.

[GBC]

Since Top Drift Battle is so soon, we had to do this one in hyper speed!!

[Mars]

Originally Posted by GBC

Since Top Drift Battle is so soon, we had to do this one in hyper speed!!

you totally should redo that video and at the begining say "ludicrious speed go!"

it be hillarity on so many levels

[d3p0]

David: Drifter Episode XX



We've also updated the 5.0 Drifting Mustang website a bit.

[GBC]

Can't wait for El Toro.

[CrazyHawaiian]

Looks like a fun project, I almost started a fox body drifting project (85 SVO with the 4 banger turbo) but I ended up having to pull the drivetrain and ship it to my Uncle for his Ranger. Good luck with your project!! Keep up the good work.