Fox Body Mustang Drifting

[d3p0]

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[GBC]

That video is good, but is it as good as this video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SDUv7kDfqto

[Corbic]

Welcome to the limitations of 1970's suspension. My SN95 is the same way.. very easy to spin the tires and break traction. Very easy to kick out the rear end.

However it can't maintain a sidewards slide, rather it either stops when I tap the brake or let off the gas, or simply spins out as the rear-end comes around to say hi!

Have you looked at altering the steering rack, tension rods et al? Try and get some sharper angles?

[R.J.]

Looks like you're making some good progress. I wanted to come out to El Toro but I had other plans that wouldn't let me. That locust is sick. It's a 4ag turbo, right?

[walperstyle]

On a side note, one of the fastest 'auto-x' cars up in BC was a fox body mustang. Dude has some serious suspension mods, car was stiff.

If it wasnt for not a fan of the looks, a fox body buildup would cost half that of a 240, maybe 1/3rd if you start out with someones half finished project.

I nearly bought a foxbody with a crate engine just had to install it. $1500 Canadian. i should have.

[Mars]

looks like you were using spherical bearings on the lower control arms. Seeing how those work, I think your axle is going to get too much side to side movement. Im sure it would improve majorly after a panhard bar.

[d3p0]

Originally Posted by walperstyle

If it wasnt for not a fan of the looks, a fox body buildup would cost half that of a 240, maybe 1/3rd if you start out with someones half finished project.

That's the beauty of these cars.

Mars: The car has a panhard bar. Full specs are at www.drift50.com

RJ: Yeah turbo 4ag.

[d3p0]

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[Toycoma]

you need to truck it out.... and get as much weight off the front as possible. any plans on that? I know the cressida's steering response and such changed a lot when i swapped out the 7m to the sr because of the huge weight diffrence. If you haven't already, maybe you can ditch the 5 mph bumper and bumper cover for a fiberglass one and swap the hood out for something better. even if taking off the front bumper saves you 40 pounds, it's still a good savings since it is so far forward of the front wheels. It would go nicely with the weight saving you did when you ditched the ac stuff.

[GBC]

Originally Posted by Toycoma

you need to truck it out.... and get as much weight off the front as possible. any plans on that? I know the cressida's steering response and such changed a lot when i swapped out the 7m to the sr because of the huge weight diffrence. If you haven't already, maybe you can ditch the 5 mph bumper and bumper cover for a fiberglass one and swap the hood out for something better. even if taking off the front bumper saves you 40 pounds, it's still a good savings since it is so far forward of the front wheels. It would go nicely with the weight saving you did when you ditched the ac stuff.

We are not done cutting weight yet, aluminum cylinder heads are going to save us a few pounds, and battery re-location will get us a bit better front/rear balance. The hood has already been shelled out and is pretty light. We have some plans for the grill that will cut a few pounds, but for right now we have to keep the bumpers, etc as I still drive this car to work and such. Once I have a place to keep a truck and trailer, then they might become a possibility.

[d3p0]

I hear a manual rack saves weight as well

[soultron]

Originally Posted by d3p0

I hear a manual rack saves weight as well

That might be okay in an 86 or even a 240, but don't try it in a 80s domestic unless you have popeye arms. You'd have to thug it real hard and it would blow at slower speeds.

[d3p0]

That's what Geoff seems to think.

Flaming River makes a 20:1 Ratio Manual rack (stock power steering is 15:1 and wayy too light / overboosted). Right now our weight is less than 2800 lbs with hundreds to go. Some stock FC's weighed ~2800 and came with manual racks and similar tire sizes.

Nothing beats the feel of a Manual Rack but you may be right, it might be too heavy.

[P.Haire]

be a man get a MANual rack

[GBC]

Originally Posted by d3p0

That's what Geoff seems to think.

Flaming River makes a 20:1 Ratio Manual rack (stock power steering is 15:1 and wayy too light / overboosted). Right now our weight is less than 2800 lbs with hundreds to go. Some stock FC's weighed ~2800 and came with manual racks and similar tire sizes.

Nothing beats the feel of a Manual Rack but you may be right, it might be too heavy.

#1 I'm not that impressed with Flaming River products
#2 Overboosted and non-linear can be fixed without getting rid of power steering.
#3 Popeye arms is right, I still have to drive this thing around town

[Mars]

personally I dont think ditching the power steering to save a lbs is worth it. I drive a truck with manual steering, only time it sucks is when you are sitting still, other than that its fine.

If you guys wanted light how come you didnt go with a coupe? They cost more, but its not hard to get them into 2600 lb range.

You guys pulled the cruise control setup yet?

[GBC]

Originally Posted by Mars

personally I dont think ditching the power steering to save a lbs is worth it. I drive a truck with manual steering, only time it sucks is when you are sitting still, other than that its fine.

If you guys wanted light how come you didnt go with a coupe? They cost more, but its not hard to get them into 2600 lb range.

You guys pulled the cruise control setup yet?

Yeah, cruise control is out, HVAC, window washer, radio, carpet, all interior panels. most of the unneeded wiring.

Car is probably around 2800lbs right now. Need to get it on the scales again to be sure.

[GBC]

[GBC]

Angletown!

Ready for top Drift Battle!

[Mike Peters]

washers or cut spindles?

put a write up on your site so i can send it to some freinds.

[GBC]

Originally Posted by Mike Peters

washers or cut spindles?

put a write up on your site so i can send it to some freinds.

Neither, it was so easy that I cried a bit.

http://www.drift50.com/blog/geoffrey...ops-all-angles

Tell your friends that they should register for the site and chat it up with us about mustangs.

'Cuz we are freaky like that.

[Mars]

dont you get some really insane camber though from the sn95 arms?

[GBC]

Originally Posted by Mars

dont you get some really insane camber though from the sn95 arms?

Yes, but we have caster/camber plates, so we can adjust that. I have it at around 3 degrees right now. You could probably set it to 1.5 degrees if you are really concerned about tire wear, but we are talking about drifting here.

[Mars]

yea I know, I was just under the impression that not even camber plates could bring the tire straight again from that much camber.

btw tried to sign up on the forum but the anti-spam graph never works right for me