drift SCION tc

[Hach1r0k1d03]

just a couple pics taken at tech day:

[slideways2004]

looks pretty cool except for the rear widebody. they should make it less square. i would love to check out the setup of this car. probably so much custom work !

[ReDc0aT]

that car looks sick nasty until u see the tail lights and wing. come on. its not 1999 any more! cant wait to see it in action.

[Hach1r0k1d03]

Originally Posted by ReDc0aT

that car looks sick nasty until u see the tail lights and wing. come on. its not 1999 any more! cant wait to see it in action.

i think it might be awhile till we do see it in action. i hear it runs. they didnt show us that it did but either way, i heard it was too modified and so they have to redo alot of it to comply with formula d rules. i heard someone say that they'll have start all over. i dunnoe if they can get that done before long beach.

[Scott]

i forgot all about the gushi/hyundai thing. Any conformation on drivetrain and D1 legality?

so formula d rules changed? i mean more power to gushi, i just hope the scion things gonna be good for him.

[olddrifter]

Originally Posted by Hach1r0k1d03

i think it might be awhile till we do see it in action. i hear it runs. they didnt show us that it did but either way, i heard it was too modified and so they have to redo alot of it to comply with formula d rules. i heard someone say that they'll have start all over. i dunnoe if they can get that done before long beach.

Is that really true???? or just some talk???????????????????????

[Hach1r0k1d03]

Originally Posted by olddrifter

Is that really true???? or just some talk???????????????????????

well we have like less than 2 weeks till long beach and on tech day it seemed that i think it was the cross member that was too modified to pass tech and well it looked like everything they made was built off that. so yeah i dunnoe what they can figure out in such limited time. we'll see i guess.

[Its_just_Yukio]

Just a rumor...

but from what I hear that it's fine to compete (per passing inspection), however the car is meeting opposition from other competing teams.

[JonnySlick]

anyone got any specs on it?

[sa-drift.com]

Ken better be ready for Long Beach!! Scion/Toyota/whatever, I can't wait to see the thing run. Mucho props for doing something original

[Soldat]

I always thought those things would look good sideways, I'm stoked to see that someone made it happen. Can't wait to see it run.

Originally Posted by Soldat

I always thought those things would look good sideways, I'm stoked to see that someone made it happen. Can't wait to see it run.

ditto
scion tC's should have been made rear wheel drive

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by DP-AE86

ditto
scion tC's should have been made rear wheel drive

I've heard some excuses from Toyota Engineers through a B Tech at my Dealership. Toyota is focusing on small cars, hybrids, and trucks (with a Diesel, Heavy Duty Tundra on the way very soon) and feels that there isn't enough of a niche to justify a RWD car again. You want it? Let your voices be heard and mail, call, or email Toyota and let them know you want a RWD Toyota (do it every day if you can)!

[Hach1r0k1d03]

Originally Posted by Justin Banner

I've heard some excuses from Toyota Engineers through a B Tech at my Dealership. Toyota is focusing on small cars, hybrids, and trucks (with a Diesel, Heavy Duty Tundra on the way very soon) and feels that there isn't enough of a niche to justify a RWD car again. You want it? Let your voices be heard and mail, call, or email Toyota and let them know you want a RWD Toyota (do it every day if you can)!

theres some pretty good talk about a possible rwd toyota compact set to come out in around 3 years. theres a big thread about it on club4ag.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by Hach1r0k1d03

theres some pretty good talk about a possible rwd toyota compact set to come out in around 3 years. theres a big thread about it on club4ag.

Be nice if that was true, but as of last month, Toyota has told their tech.s and engineers that there will be NO RWD compact car in the near future.

[Bebop]

My issue with the car is how much of the build is based off its 4WD chassis twin from over seas? What components were used from 4wd Toyota Avensis? If basically none were use and everything is one off and custom it totally disobeys the rules of formula d in my opinion.

If RSR can build a FWD with a custom RWD drive train and suspension setup you mind as well let people build tube chassis purpose built drift cars that have no similar traits to the actual production car other then the body panels.

IMO this isn't the spirit of drifting and this should not be acceptable by all means.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by blaze1

My issue with the car is how much of the build is based off its 4WD chassis twin from over seas? What components were used from 4wd Toyota Avensis? If basically none were use and everything is one off and custom it totally disobeys the rules of formula d in my opinion.

If RSR can build a FWD with a custom RWD drive train and suspension setup you mind as well let people build tube chassis purpose built drift cars that have no similar traits to the actual production car other then the body panels.

IMO this isn't the spirit of drifting and this should not be acceptable by all means.

Maybe so, but I feel that this is where Professional Drifting is headed. Purpose built, tube chassis cars. Look at the majority of Professional Racing, they aren't stock cars by ANY means. NASCAR, ALMS, Grand Am, SCORE, CORR, their vehicles aren't stock, but have the look (sorta in NASCAR, the decals kinda match, you know ) of a stock car. Last time I checked I couldn't buy a full Carbon Fiber, tube chassis RX-8 at my local Mazda dealer, or a Fiber Glass, tube chassis Frontier at my local Nissan dealer, either.

Rules, yes it broke them (maybe). Spirit, sorta until you look at how Professional Racing has developed. Formula D might be going at it at a faster pace. Just remember this advice that a wise old racing sage told me, "Racing Costs Money, How Fast Do You Want To Go?"

[sa-drift.com]

Originally Posted by Justin Banner

Be nice if that was true, but as of last month, Toyota has told their tech.s and engineers that there will be NO RWD compact car in the near future.

Ehhh, don't think so. It's actually being built by Subaru for Toyota and will be Toyota badged. Scheduled to be in production by late 2009.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by sa-drift.com

Ehhh, don't think so. It's actually being built by Subaru for Toyota and will be Toyota badged. Scheduled to be in production by late 2009.

Like I said, this is what I'm hearing from Toyota people from the Toyota Engineers, from Toyota Technicians for the Toyota dealership I work for.

[Bebop]

Originally Posted by Justin Banner

Maybe so, but I feel that this is where Professional Drifting is headed. Purpose built, tube chassis cars. Look at the majority of Professional Racing, they aren't stock cars by ANY means. NASCAR, ALMS, Grand Am, SCORE, CORR, their vehicles aren't stock, but have the look (sorta in NASCAR, the decals kinda match, you know ) of a stock car. Last time I checked I couldn't buy a full Carbon Fiber, tube chassis RX-8 at my local Mazda dealer, or a Fiber Glass, tube chassis Frontier at my local Nissan dealer, either.

Rules, yes it broke them (maybe). Spirit, sorta until you look at how Professional Racing has developed. Formula D might be going at it at a faster pace. Just remember this advice that a wise old racing sage told me, "Racing Costs Money, How Fast Do You Want To Go?"

Without going into huge detail

Drifting isn't ready to be a one off motorsport.

If you been around this "game" "industry" "scene" or what ever you may want to cal it for a long enough time you would see why I say this. The sport will fail if this happens.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by blaze1

Without going into huge detail

Drifting isn't ready to be a one off motorsport.

If you been around this "game" "industry" "scene" or what ever you may want to cal it for a long enough time you would see why I say this. The sport will fail if this happens.

Well, I don't know about fail. You can't say something is going to fail until it happens. I remember Rhys Millen commenting on RedlineTV when they were doing the episode on the high performance vehicles used for movie and commercial shoots. He stated that he felt that it was the direction that Professional drifting HAD to go, including jumps and some other stuff when he had the Pro 2WD truck (looked like the same one he was going to use in the "Truck Flip"). I thought he was crazy to mention it at the time, but I do feel that tube chassis vehicles are inevitable in the future of Professional Drifting.

[Slapshotnerd]

Originally Posted by Justin Banner

Well, I don't know about fail. You can't say something is going to fail until it happens. I remember Rhys Millen commenting on RedlineTV when they were doing the episode on the high performance vehicles used for movie and commercial shoots. He stated that he felt that it was the direction that Professional drifting HAD to go, including jumps and some other stuff when he had the Pro 2WD truck (looked like the same one he was going to use in the "Truck Flip"). I thought he was crazy to mention it at the time, but I do feel that tube chassis vehicles are inevitable in the future of Professional Drifting.

I would bet money that it doesn't happen in the next 3 or 4 years. Drifting won't ever happen on a 2 mile oval, and there will never be events with more than about 20-25k people, therefore there won't be $1m sponsorships, and therefore, tube chassis cars will never happen.

Plus, at the point where they go tube chassis, everyone will have to build new cars. Too many teams are having problems already as it is with travel costs and build costs with $50k cars, building $150k - $200k tube chassis cars will kill the sport.

[Justin Banner]

Originally Posted by Slapshotnerd

I would bet money that it doesn't happen in the next 3 or 4 years. Drifting won't ever happen on a 2 mile oval, and there will never be events with more than about 20-25k people, therefore there won't be $1m sponsorships, and therefore, tube chassis cars will never happen.

Plus, at the point where they go tube chassis, everyone will have to build new cars. Too many teams are having problems already as it is with travel costs and build costs with $50k cars, building $150k - $200k tube chassis cars will kill the sport.

Isn't $100+ budget not that unusual for the top tier drifting teams? Small teams will fall, but better funded teams will rise up to the challenge. As bad as it sounds, it's how things work in all forms of racing. It's going to happen, not in the immediate future mind you, but it will happen. I don't think it will kill the sport, but the need for a ladder system will come from it.

[Brian]

knock it off.


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