Samuel Hubinette vs Alex Pfeiffer

[vigvoodoo]

This is the AE86 vs Viper all runs, hope you like
Sam vs Alex- DRFT:ATL

[Rooney]

Awesome video, it was better in real life. But thats for the people who werent lucky enough to see it in real life.

Me and my bro parked next to a green accord all stock except for a exhaust and iunk sticker...was that you?

[vigvoodoo]

yeah that was my friends car, mines not fixed yet. He's puting an H23 Vtec in it from the JDM Accord SIR-T wagon. Should be fast when he's done.

[nissanguy_24]

out of curiosity do you have a more linux friendly format? like mpeg?

[REVLIMIT]

Damn Sam was drifting pretty damn good in that Viper. He's more lucky then Rhys in a way. Considering he has already a whole lotta suspension and aftermarket parts avaliable. And Rhys if he wants anything either has to fabricate it or get it from Australia. haha

I can see though why Alex lost to Sam...great battle though

[WINDING Master]

Originally posted by vigvoodoo
This is the AE86 vs Viper all runs, hope you like
Sam vs Alex- DRFT:ATL

GREAT VIDEO CLIP! Thank you

[240sxsr20det]

Great vid!

[noobster]

linky no worky

[Ghost of Duluth]

Heh you were RIGHT in front of me from the looks of that film.

[noobster]

damn good video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

both of those guys can drive! Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!

[nissanguy_24]

ah huh....

something just doesnt seem right about that video, but i cant put my finger on it... is it me or did the viper not seem to be drifting all that much in the horshoe when he passed the 86?

i think i know what it is.. its a very very small track for that kind of event.

[ToplessFC3Sman]

yea, in the last run the viper seemed to grip there where it passed the 86. Almost every time the viper started to drift a huge plume of smoke went up, and there wasnt really any there, plus the angle of the car. But still, a good vid. I wish i was out west so i could go to these things, but unfortunately im an east-coaster

[nissanguy_24]

out west? oh man your going to kick your self, that was in atlanta georgia.

But yeah normally if you dont drift a corner your disqualified. or it deffenately doesnt gain you any points.

[nissanguy_24]

okay guys watch about 50 seconds into the video. The 86 goes for a nice big drift, the viper drives straight into the corner! hell it looks like hes about to hit the 86, the 86 is sideways the viper is not. The viper lets the rear get alittle loose as hes comming out of it, but he did not drift that corner, meanwhile the 86 was sideways the whole time.

[Brian]

Go Alex! it's a drift event, thats what you are supposed to do....DRIFT.

boo Viper. grip through the main turn? WTF?

[KristianAE86]

Swedish power - you guys

[driftfreak]

ya looks as if sam pulled some BS moves to take that..
alex had better angels on the drift and had was drifting more than the viper..

its BS that he lost..

[Rooney]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
Heh you were RIGHT in front of me from the looks of that film.

I was wanting to go up to the announcer, and be like "Can you call up an announcement for all the drifting.com members to come up to the stage for a meet."

I thought that would have been cool. But I didnt. You guys must have been really close to me. Nobody said hi to me.

[vigvoodoo]

Next time we go to an event like this lets decide where we can meet first, and someone can bring some drifting.com shirts or something.

[REVLIMIT]

Hmmm...I don't know...watching that footage again I still think the viper won fair and square. The vipers lines were better then Alex's and the speed of the vieprs drifts were better. Alot of the times it seems the viper grips when hes behind Alex. But connects it when hes infront of him. Although I support Alex 100% (especially since he's a Hawaii boy) he lost straight up.

Though its understandable why it would be hard for Sam to connect those turns. I Camaro weights in at around 3,400lbs and to connect the super tight turns is a little difficult...though still do able.

[Chas]

Alex's car wasnt running right. The viper looks like he doest drift to catch up when hes behind, thats kinda cheap. I think alex should have taken it, seeing as its 150hp vs 500... I thought they judge on power ratings.

[CrazyHawaiian]

I agree with Revlimit, and it has nothing to do with the fact that Sam was driving a domestic. I know Alex has mad skills, I've seen him in person drifting crazy with a M3. I also know he wasnt driving his own car, so I think he did great considering the circumstances. But watching that vid, I think Sam won fair and square. I do agree that cutting into Alex's racing lines was a little too aggressive for my tastes, but what can you say, Sam was going all out. I really dig Sam's style, alot of weight transfer, alot of throttle on the long slides, and he goes all out in a heavy car.

And how can you say he was not sliding because you saw no smoke? Watch him enter the horseshoe on that last run, do you see any huge smoke trails there? What I see is Sam transfering the weight a little too early (snap back) and then taking the inside line real early for the turn. Unfortunately this did not match well with Alex's line, and both times Sam was behind he cut off Alex's line (passing the second time). Since he set up for that turn the same every time, just watch him when hes in front. I can see what you guys are saying about how it looks like he re-grips, but if you watch him when hes in front you can see he chooses not go wide on that portion of the horseshoe.

[Ghost of Duluth]

Well I was there and Alex outdrove Sam plain and simple. But, Sam made the clear pass so he won. Thats how competitions work. Had he not made the pass, Alex would have won. I am not taking anything away from Sam. He is an outstanding driver and showed skill above and beyond the common man in other runs. But in that run he was clearly outdriven. As for connecting those turns in the Viper, it is possible as he was doing it all day. But in those runs he did not. He gripped for that split second to make the pass. That's all it takes in the Viper to make the pass, 1 second of grip. He makes the pass and wins. You can't argue with the judges on that one.

As for the track, I really think it was a great set up. It favored the smaller, lighter cars in the turns but had the straight section for the more powerful cars to make the distance. There were drivers that were basically connecting the entire course together, Millen is one name that springs to mind. With a good line you could do that. Heck Tony Schultz connected the bigger corners in his Turbo KA powered 240 with basically what amounted to stock suspension. So it didn't take a Viper to win.

[swifty949]

i think the track is fine. It looks just as wide, if not wider than touge. That's what the circuit should somewhat emulate.
Maybe i haven't seen enough drift footage, but neither driver to me looks that great in those runs.

[turbo23]

also think about this, that was a factory backed viper, with a experienced rally driver, and the car prob cost over 100k, one of the reasons the viper was able to get inside was his tires, those were grippy as hell, he did the same thing to chris foresburg, he would put his nose right on the inside line which would force the competitor out