First vehicle i ever drifted.

[pork_poney]

It was hecka exciting. (i did it in grass to avoid rolling) I used a psuedo break drift to induce it (just something to get the weight forward) and then just got on the go pedal and it actually hung sideways for a good 3 or 4 seconds. I know it was grass and all, but it was the greatest feeling in the world. saddly, i'm an idiot and decided to try and do the same on some good old asphalt. luckily, i'm not a terrible driver (one of those kids that could care what he's in, he just wants to be able to drive it better than anyone else) and i didn't roll or anything, just a little sad i was stupid enough to try it afterwards. I was only doing like 15 and stood on the go button and it swung wide (parking lot) and i held it for maybe a second or two. Anyways, here she is in all her glory...

[pork_poney]

well i for one was happy about it.

at least i got sideways and in a jeep. to be honest, and God strike me down for saying this. as a rear drive platform with a pretty torquey six in it, were it more aerodynamicly efficient, i think it'd make a decent sideways vehicle. It's balanced really well for some reason, i guess the light weight of the 6 helps it.

ok, well, i guess i'll stop talking now.

<--idiot.

[Parry]

You should rock it. being lower and stiffer wouldn't hurt though, as far as not doing barrel rolls goes.

[pork_poney]

i somehow actually thought about it. the thing is old, but all the things i'd do are already practically done.

ac doesn't work, and thus can be removed for weight.

headliner already fell out.

if i could just find some sort of suspension parts, the thing could be lowered substantially, i could just pull the step rails and save some clearance that way.

it's really not a bad idea, i just hate to think about it.

i'm most interested, or would be, were i bold enough to try it, in decreasing the top heavy aspect. maybe if someone could make me some lighter windows, there's alot of windows. and the hood weighs a good 349023940239409lbs. who knows, maybe i actually will "rock it." for that matter, hit me with some opinions folks.

[Ralli///Art GS]

By no means am I flaming you..but you are talking about drifting an automatic SUV? and you say that it's "well balanced"? It's an SUV, I've never driven it and I know it's not well balanced. I wouldn't waste my time shaving weight etc. and just use it to get to a job and save for a decent car...

[Tsunami]

Be proud you pulled it off. Screw 'em if they flame you.

[pork_poney]

By no means am I flaming you..but you are talking about drifting an automatic SUV? and you say that it's "well balanced"? It's an SUV, I've never driven it and I know it's not well balanced. I wouldn't waste my time shaving weight etc. and just use it to get to a job and save for a decent car...

I understand, and it's cool, don't worry about the flaming, i'm an easy going guy.

as far as balance goes, it actually is well balanced. Because the engine isn't too far forward of the front axle (more over it than anything) and it's rear drive, the weight distrubution is fair to good. it seems to have a pretty neutral pmi though it's length does make it somewhat hard to rotate. I promise i wouldn't say it if i didn't mean it, i've driven it, i drive it every day, along side a 2k civic sedan and a 97 camry. (none of which are mine, btw) both of which really don't have that good of balance, the camry sits ok, but and the honda is agile, but they are both front heavy and have a tendency to understeer. the jeep comes around pretty easily, and behaves well (for an suv, mind you) and while the steering ratio is quite slow and the steering in general is very unresponsive, i have run it with no fluid, (no power steering) and it changed drastically. I know i don't know what i'm talking about, i'll be the first to say that, and yes, i think it's ridiculous to drift an auto suv, i hate both auto's and suv's, but i own it, and am very comfortable with it and have a good bit of seat time in it, and thus maybe it isn't such a bad idea...

keep 'em comin folks, i'm really interested in hearing what you all have to say.

[nitroboy24]

It's cool you got it sideways and all but honestly..No matter what you do its still going to be an automatic SUV (unless you tranny swap it lol) that weighs a lot. Personally, I'd sell it and find a RWD platform car and go with it. I am probablly going to be gettin a '91 bmw (318is) for $3700, so it doesn't cost a fortune to find a rwd car..

Just my .02 cents

But hey, if you want to go for it why not, I just wouldnt drop a lot of money into it!

[scirocco]

pork_poney, it seems you need to update your signature

[pork_poney]

i don't disagree at all. I mostly just wanted to see how many of you were crazy enough to support it.

Yes, i will be getting a car. i'm going stereotypical and getting an s13 or 14, whatever i get a better deal on.

if i had the money and the time though, i'd deffinately work magic on the old horse. it's really not that heavy. someone was out there drifting a crown vic and that probably weighs more. the jeep, if i'm not wrong is supposed to be around 3500-3800lbs. heavy i know, but at least not clearing two tons. although, with my fat arse in there.....

anyways, yeah, i'm sure i'll get a car, but hey, maybe i'll convice my family to hold onto the the jeep (roco, it's not mine, i just get to drive it until i can afford my own wheels) and in a little while i'll do something with it. I dunno. I honestly HATE most domestic vehicles, but i've just grown to love the old thing, i kick it around, it kicks back, it's a good relationship.

[Tighty_wh1tey]

ive managed to get the ol blazer sideways before but its a manual trans but still an suv alot smaler then that jeep but it was scary nevertheless. thought about slammin the blazer but i think they look kinda *Censored**Censored**Censored* on the ground like that

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[Parry]

Originally posted by nitroboy24
It's cool you got it sideways and all but honestly..No matter what you do its still going to be an automatic SUV (unless you tranny swap it lol) that weighs a lot. Personally, I'd sell it and find a RWD platform car and go with it. I am probablly going to be gettin a '91 bmw (318is) for $3700, so it doesn't cost a fortune to find a rwd car..

Just my .02 cents

But hey, if you want to go for it why not, I just wouldnt drop a lot of money into it!

His jeep is probably quicker than your future BMW. Have you driven it yet? I drove a 325is and it was slow. But hey if you want to go for it why not? I just wouldn't drop a lot of money into it!

I want to see you rock the Jeep just because it's a Jeep. So many people are so stuck on stuff, I like to see someone throw down once in a while.

[nitroboy24]

Originally posted by Parry
His jeep is probably quicker than your future BMW. Have you driven it yet? I drove a 325is and it was slow. But hey if you want to go for it why not? I just wouldn't drop a lot of money into it!

Yeah, we drove it and if you think his jeep is faster you are probablly wrong. I am going to put money into it but not a ton. I am still 15 (obviously i still dont have my "real" liscense) so I dont really give a crap if its not extremely fast. Think a soon to be 16 year old could afford insurance on a car with 230+hp or whatever you consider fast?

I didn't think so either.

EDIT:
One more thing lol, it weighs in at a not so hefty 2600lbs I believe, so it doesnt take too much pony power for it to fairly quick

[SR_power19]

Why don't you get, say, an s13? It would be faster than the 318 and cheaper, both to buy and insure.

[nitroboy24]

Originally posted by SR_power19
Why don't you get, say, an s13? It would be faster than the 318 and cheaper, both to buy and insure.

I would but my dad/mom have an E36 M3 so he is addicted to the brand I believe I am paying atleast 1 grand for the insurance and he's covering the car (being an only child with good grades has, um, "financial advantages ) so I wont complain. It actually weighs 2,500lbs (found that on a BB) so its awfully dam light. And the engine wasnt changed (besides being detuned a bit on E36 models) until around the mid to high 1990's. We had a friend with one that had a S/C on it and it was putting out around 210hp at the crank. Not too shabby.

[pork_poney]

it wouldn't surprise me if the jeep could at least keep up with the bimmy. I got to ride right seat in one and wasn't really that impressed. the 4.0liter i6 that's in the grand cherokee is usually found to be about 195hp and 245lb ft of torque at the flywheel (someone dyno'd and did conversions for the torque relative to the hp to prove the factory tq ratings were low). It moves fairly quick. regardless, yes, if i had the money i'd rock it. However, i don't want to have to worry about things like extensive vehicle modification and set up right now, i just want to be able to drive as good as i can and not have to worry about anything but learning as much as i can before i do anything. thus i'll probably end up in a stock as i can get it s13.

[pork_poney]

I would but my dad/mom have an E36 M3 so he is addicted to the brand

m3's are nice, but i wouldn't expect your basic 3 series to hold it's own in the same manner. sorta like me wanting a stock usdm s14 because my parents own a bnr34. I don't dislike bmw really, it's just that the m3 is really the pinnacle of bmw's sedan bracket, and in my opinion, the pinnacle of bmw as a whole, it's really just on an entirely different level. more power to you though, the bimmers seem to be very popular for making sideways smokeys.

[nitroboy24]

Originally posted by pork_poney
m3's are nice, but i wouldn't expect your basic 3 series to hold it's own in the same manner. sorta like me wanting a stock usdm s14 because my parents own a bnr34. I don't dislike bmw really, it's just that the m3 is really the pinnacle of bmw's sedan bracket, and in my opinion, the pinnacle of bmw as a whole, it's really just on an entirely different level. more power to you though, the bimmers seem to be very popular for making sideways smokeys.

Haha, I hear you. I wasnt comparing the 318is with my parents M3 in any way shape or form Considering its got just about twice as much horsepower as the 318's. Not to mention we took the baffling out of the intake and have s Turner Motorsports underdrive pulley "power" kit. Then it has Bilstein shocks, H&R springs, adjustable rear control arms, 10mm wheel spacers up front, an X-brace, and a few other minor mods.

My dad takes it out to the track with the local bmw club, which is what I plan to do when I have my liscense

Here's a pic or two of the 318, I've been talkin a lot about it so what the hell, why not? We also have 2 black Recaro racing seats waiting to be installed in it..Hehe.

It has some pretty nice OZ Racing 5-spokes on it:

[Parry]

Originally posted by nitroboy24
Yeah, we drove it and if you think his jeep is faster you are probablly wrong. I am going to put money into it but not a ton. I am still 15 (obviously i still dont have my "real" liscense) so I dont really give a crap if its not extremely fast. Think a soon to be 16 year old could afford insurance on a car with 230+hp or whatever you consider fast?

I didn't think so either.

EDIT:
One more thing lol, it weighs in at a not so hefty 2600lbs I believe, so it doesnt take too much pony power for it to fairly quick

You could swing the insurance, it would just hurt a bit. I bet you it's not a whole lot more than a 325 than a 318.

And no, I'm probably not wrong. 318's are slow. Jeeps, although somewhat cumbersome, have quite a bit of grunt. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them run fairly close to each other.

230+ hp fast? Eh....no, not usually. It depends on the car. 230 hp in a car like my GTI is pretty quick. 230 in my camaro isn't much of a thrill. I would consider a car like my buddy's camaro with it's 383 and 100 shot to be pretty fast, making about 500 horse on the bottle. In a car like your e30, you'll need to put down about 300 before I'd praise it as fast.

It is however a good looking, tastefull car. I would definately rock it...slowly

[pork_poney]

haha.

rock it slowly...

i like that.

yeah, parry, i mostly agree with you. while 230 in a bimmer probably isn't too shabby, faster than anything we own, it's still nothing spectacular. but then you don't need spectacular amounts of power to get sideways. and i do agree, i think the jeep and the beem would hang relatively close to each other.

that would be an interesting race, lol. We might have to arrange this...

[Piner]

Hey this is the first thing i ever drifted Minus the lights and that other junk.


amazing what a RWD 400c.i v8 van can do in the snow

[Piner]

damn tripod Here

[pork_poney]

hahaha.

fire police, sucka', that's ballin'.



I say you rock the van and i'll mount some weighted spinners on the jeep and we'll take d1 by storm. nothing says tandem like 11000lbs.

[Piner]

Yeah we dont have it anymore but man that thing was fun. More torque than a tugboat and only got 6mpg highway and city