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(V8 PREDICTION) What Percentage of the 2011 Builds Will Have a V8?

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  • #31
    "nexen tire"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by blaze1 View Post
      How many tandem battles did you win?

      How many of them were V8s?

      Not hating just looking at the bigger picture... something doesn't add up when the top qualifier struggles to win a tandem battle.
      now thats a tough comparison. lets just take driver A (instead of Kyle himself) and not even worry about driver A's motor setup.

      Driver A qualifies 3rd
      in tandem has a hiccup, driver error, loses

      Driver A qualified 31st
      other driver has a hiccup, wins

      Driver A qualifies 15th
      both clean runs vs a "v8" but "A" had more angle, win

      Driver A qualifies 1st
      both clean runs against a "non-V8" and has less angle/missed a clip, lose


      basically, ANYTHING can happen in tandem, so if he did the good run in qualy and had an issue or error in tandem = lost. He obviously beat the V8s in a judged portion.

      now if Kyle came back and said 3 wins vs V8s, you'd say like "well were they stock v8s? or non-supercharged? or something. you will dig for a reason.

      /slippery slope n stuff.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mike Peters View Post
        "nexen tire"

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        • #34
          Originally posted by boxmod View Post

          basically, ANYTHING can happen in tandem,
          Yeah but the STATISTICS show what has really happend.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by blaze1 View Post
            Yeah but the STATISTICS show what has really happend.
            I think the point Mohan was going for is that with skill, you dont "HAVE" to have a v8. But obviously, a skilled v8 driver is going to be a killer combo.

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            • #36
              Let's look at the top 16 standings after round 1:

              v8, v8, v8, v8, 2 rotor (yay Mohan!), v8, v6, v8, 4 banger (yay aasbo!), v8, v8, 4 banger (yay walker wilkerson!), 4 banger (yay matt field!), V8, V6, v6

              70% of the top 10 are V8's, and more than 9 of the top 16. Keep in mind that Hubinette, JR, and Brakohiapa all either didn't qualify or had mechanical issues and didnt drive, they will be in the top 16 after mid season as well. I see Wilkerson and Field dropping out of top 16, which will just drive the percentage up.

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              • #37
                Matt Field is LS based motor. V8 this year.

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                • #38
                  http://www.lsxtv.com/race-coverage/o...onal-drifting/

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                  • #39
                    So now it's been 2 rounds...

                    7 of the top 8 are V8's, and 9 of the top 16 (those 9 are all in the top 12). 75% of the top 12 drivers are V8 after 2 rounds, and 100% of the podiums have been by V8 drivers (special shout-out to Ruskakoff off being the only top 4 driver with a Turbo!)

                    Top 10 qualifiers in Atlanta:
                    Conrad (V8), Tuerck (V8), Bergenholtz (3 rotor), Dai (V8), McQuarrie (V8), Gushi (4 banger), Powers (V8), Forsberg (V8), Mohan (2 rotor), Dmac (V8) - 70% V8 (80% of the top 5)

                    Top 10 qualifiers in Long Beach:
                    Conrad (V8), Dai (V8), Mohan (2 Rotor), Powers (V8), Millen (Turbo V6), Dmac (V8), Walker Wilkerson (4 Banger), McQuarrie (V8), Ruskakoff (4 banger), Tuerck (V8) - 60% V8 (60% of top 5)

                    let's see if these next 2 rounds change that ratio

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                    • #40
                      Eh, I doubt it. Considering PBIR is going to have a long straight and a great entry for backing it in, I think the qualifiers will be very close to the Atlanta qualifications.

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                      • #41
                        7 of the top 8 are V8's, and 9 of the top 16 (those 9 are all in the top 12). 75% of the top 12 drivers are V8 after 2 rounds, and 100% of the podiums have been by V8 drivers (special shout-out to Ruskakoff off being the only top 4 driver with a Turbo!)
                        let's take a look again:

                        9 of 9 podium winners in 2011 are V8's
                        4/4 of the final 4 in Atlanta were V8's, which brings the total to 11/12 for the season
                        10 of the top 10 in the season points chase are V8's (although 11 thru 16 are all non-V8)

                        I think we can drop this argument. V8 to win is the only way...

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                        • #42
                          Some interesting facts:

                          Number of SR20 / 4 cylinder powered S13's - 2 (Walker Wilkerson / Cyrus Martinez)
                          Number of V6 powered S13's - 3 (Dennis Mertz / Jeff Jones / Nikolai K if he competes again in Seattle)
                          Number of LS-x or V8 powered S13's - 6 (Dai / Powers / Yoshioka / Petty / Field / Bakchis)

                          The SR20 is going the way of the dodo bird.



                          Number of V6 powered Z's - Mordaunt, Waldin, Graven, Pfeiffer, Moen
                          Number of V8 powered Z's - Forsberg, McQuarrie, Kado

                          The VQ is still doing alright, but let's see how this looks another year from now.

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                          • #43
                            9 S chassis
                            2 AE86s
                            2 FC

                            I would say the traditional drift car is a endangered species as well,

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bebop View Post
                              9 S chassis
                              2 AE86s
                              2 FC

                              I would say the traditional drift car is a endangered species as well,
                              You're probably right for the most part. The same also goes for any motorsport, in the effort to be more competitive there is always some evolution by the teams.

                              For example, no-one in IndyCar is running a 2006 spec chassis, same goes for ALMS, F1, Nascar, soap box derby, etc. The only time that isn't the case is when the race cars are in a spec series - something that most drift fans wouldn't want I'd imagine.

                              Such is the definition of progress, for better or for worse. You can't have people competing against each other and not expect to have those same people looking for a competitive advantage.

                              But there are always those people who will reject change. That's their choice and they are also entitled to their opinion.

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                              • #45
                                12/12 podiums are now V8's
                                15/16 top 4's are V8's (GO RUSKAKOFF!)

                                I think top 10 stayed all V8

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