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You cannot carry the same distance drift with the same speed in open diff and LSD. it is NOT POSSIBLE. No matter how good you say you are, its a physical inability to propel your car in the same velocity (velocity has direction, not just speed) with an open diff versus LSD. The open diff's outer tire, where the majority of your weight transfer goes aka your tire with the most grip, is not getting any power. It just gets dragged along for the ride while all your engine's efficiency gets wasted on an unloaded, trailing inside wheel with no traction. How the f.uck you you suppose you can start at the same point, carry a long drift and keep up speed? You wouldn't even be able to keep a line! (You being used broadly here, Mr. Fu.cking Semantics). YOU can't! And on a track, or any road that is not a mile long straight away, there is only a limited amount of space leading up to the turn. Onlyx amount of feet, many times that is taken at full throttle, full acceleration up to the initiation point. The only way to carry a slide in an open diff car is enter with more speed so by the time you scrub it all off by that dragging outside tire, you are going the normal speed for the turn. Then what? What happens after the turn? Where in an LSD equipped car you accelerate as you drift through the end of the turn, a sucky diff car won't get traction to accelerate until you aren't drifting, and both wheels have equal traction. AKA gripping AKA you aren't drifting anymore therefor you did not perform as good of a drift as you would with LSD. Back to a previous point: Limited amount of space means at the MOST in the MOST powerful car, you could only be going a certain speed. So in equal cars LSD vs. Open, the initiation speed caNNOT be any higher. Therefore, with open diff, since you scrub speed a lot quicker and can never accelerate through the turn, there is NO WAY Newton and his laws of Physics will ever allow you to go as fast or as far (in the same amount of time).
Ohhhh... but you are a better drifter right? This is not talking about horsepower or damper tuning or tire selection---factors that can seperate top notch drivers by slight amounts--- we are talking about a peice of equipment that is the most integral part of drifting. It's function allows you to perform the basics of upper level drifting, which are, like stated, not physically possible in an open diff car. I don't care what you say. You say you can hold a slide for 300 ft in an open diff car lets say. Ok, cool, if you can, great. But what speed? Its not inpressive to go out and slide as long but at 20mph less than everyone else. And no way to accelerate through a corner?
What happens if you have lets say a 90 degree, then straight then hairpin. And the 90 degree gets slightly narrower as it leads into the straight, which then opens up, and gets narrow again for the apex. Oh and lets just say the straight is over a slight inclined crest. So, you initiate, slow down for the reduced width (can't carry too much speed into that rocky berm), then get back on the gas full throttle for the straight, carrying the drift out of the first 90 all the way to the outside edge, cresting the hill and then coming back in slowing down again for the tight downhill apex. Cool. How are you going to do that in open diff? You can't accelerate through that straightaway while holding a drift. If it were short enough where your momentum would carry you, you may complete it, but again it would just be a progressively slower speed. Anyway you look at it, you would not be as good of a "drifter" as the guy who made it. Is it harder for you to drift the open diff? Um i guess... but you aren't doing the same thing, so how can you know you would be able to drift at a high level in a car with LSD.
Now for some FUN reading:
Its like being the best baseball player in your leauge of people who hit using tree branches. It is harder to hit a ball using a tree branch? Yes. Can you hit a ball out of Yankee Stadium with one? No. But if you were givin a real bat, with the potential to hit it out of the stadium (look at Barry Bonds lets say... he uses a normal ole' bat) do you think you could? I dunno. Maybe? Maybe not. The dynamics of how a bat reacts in certain spots to the ball is completey different than a branch. You wouldn't know. Youa re comparing yourself mabes on assumptions and a limited view of baseball (or more applicably, WHAT DRIFTING is).
On top of that, lets assume different courses or turns are equivalent to different pitchers. You think that you could hit a little league pitcher out of the local sports feild with a branch? You probably could. You could also do it with a bat. It would be easier with the bat. This is what you are saying, that amongst the people who are only good enough to hit a little league pitcher out of the local park, YOU are better than them because you can do it with a branch and they have to rely on a bat. Yes, you are. YOU ARE BETTER.
So you stay there, perfecting the little league game till the point where you can hit it out almost everytime. You must be a good baseball player. And sh.it, you only use a branch. But here comes Rodger Clemens, and you are in a big league feild. Your branch ain't gonna cut it. No way in hell. Bonds couldn't even hit it out with the branch, how are you? So you grab a bat. You have been playing all the little kids for their milk money knocking them out with the branch. Not now hotshot, now you grasp that bat and you don't know sh.it. You gotta start from square one. Look at Clemens. You've never faced that speed before. You've never held your weapon before. But you said you were a good baseball player. BETTER than those kids with the bats. But you can't do sh.it with it until you learn how to hit a mjor league pitcher with a real bat!
Damn i must say i think that is one of the better analogies i have produced, especially for the LSD/No LSD topic.
Ohhhh... but you are a better drifter right? This is not talking about horsepower or damper tuning or tire selection---factors that can seperate top notch drivers by slight amounts--- we are talking about a peice of equipment that is the most integral part of drifting. It's function allows you to perform the basics of upper level drifting, which are, like stated, not physically possible in an open diff car. I don't care what you say. You say you can hold a slide for 300 ft in an open diff car lets say. Ok, cool, if you can, great. But what speed? Its not inpressive to go out and slide as long but at 20mph less than everyone else. And no way to accelerate through a corner?
What happens if you have lets say a 90 degree, then straight then hairpin. And the 90 degree gets slightly narrower as it leads into the straight, which then opens up, and gets narrow again for the apex. Oh and lets just say the straight is over a slight inclined crest. So, you initiate, slow down for the reduced width (can't carry too much speed into that rocky berm), then get back on the gas full throttle for the straight, carrying the drift out of the first 90 all the way to the outside edge, cresting the hill and then coming back in slowing down again for the tight downhill apex. Cool. How are you going to do that in open diff? You can't accelerate through that straightaway while holding a drift. If it were short enough where your momentum would carry you, you may complete it, but again it would just be a progressively slower speed. Anyway you look at it, you would not be as good of a "drifter" as the guy who made it. Is it harder for you to drift the open diff? Um i guess... but you aren't doing the same thing, so how can you know you would be able to drift at a high level in a car with LSD.
Now for some FUN reading:
Its like being the best baseball player in your leauge of people who hit using tree branches. It is harder to hit a ball using a tree branch? Yes. Can you hit a ball out of Yankee Stadium with one? No. But if you were givin a real bat, with the potential to hit it out of the stadium (look at Barry Bonds lets say... he uses a normal ole' bat) do you think you could? I dunno. Maybe? Maybe not. The dynamics of how a bat reacts in certain spots to the ball is completey different than a branch. You wouldn't know. Youa re comparing yourself mabes on assumptions and a limited view of baseball (or more applicably, WHAT DRIFTING is).
On top of that, lets assume different courses or turns are equivalent to different pitchers. You think that you could hit a little league pitcher out of the local sports feild with a branch? You probably could. You could also do it with a bat. It would be easier with the bat. This is what you are saying, that amongst the people who are only good enough to hit a little league pitcher out of the local park, YOU are better than them because you can do it with a branch and they have to rely on a bat. Yes, you are. YOU ARE BETTER.
So you stay there, perfecting the little league game till the point where you can hit it out almost everytime. You must be a good baseball player. And sh.it, you only use a branch. But here comes Rodger Clemens, and you are in a big league feild. Your branch ain't gonna cut it. No way in hell. Bonds couldn't even hit it out with the branch, how are you? So you grab a bat. You have been playing all the little kids for their milk money knocking them out with the branch. Not now hotshot, now you grasp that bat and you don't know sh.it. You gotta start from square one. Look at Clemens. You've never faced that speed before. You've never held your weapon before. But you said you were a good baseball player. BETTER than those kids with the bats. But you can't do sh.it with it until you learn how to hit a mjor league pitcher with a real bat!
Damn i must say i think that is one of the better analogies i have produced, especially for the LSD/No LSD topic.
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