Idea for less tire wear

Appleseed · 01-10-2005, 12:21 PM

I realize that this idea is weird but here goes. I know that you can make cheap intercooler sprayers with sprinkler parts fron Home Depot. Why not put them in the rear wheel wells to spray water on the tires on demand? Wouldn't this cut down on tire use?

sdtouge · 01-10-2005, 12:35 PM

i was thinking about something like this so0 when your parked it will spray off the dust and you wont get parking tickets.

thats a good idea, you shoould make one a let us know how it goes

frictionfighter · 01-10-2005, 12:51 PM

hahah that would be pretty cool.

Appleseed · 01-10-2005, 04:26 PM

Well, you know how easy and quieter it is to slide in the rain, I was thinking about using the sprayers to wet the ground directly in front of the tires to induce the loss of grip.

J-BloodAE86 · 01-10-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Appleseed
Well, you know how easy and quieter it is to slide in the rain, I was thinking about using the sprayers to wet the ground directly in front of the tires to induce the loss of grip.

ya maybe induce the slide, but think about it, when drifting the tires are at about a 45 degree angle to the road, so the spray wouldnt be infront of the tires anymore.

sdtouge · 01-10-2005, 04:36 PM

get 2 sprayers or a wide sprayer.

is anyone going to do this? i want to see how it works out.

mechaniac · 01-10-2005, 04:39 PM

best advice for preventing tire wear?

stop driving so much

It's like asking the question "How can I get 30mpg from a 300hp engine?"

sdtouge · 01-10-2005, 04:42 PM

the guy that won the uscc in the mr2 got like 45 mpg or so and over 400 hp i believe.

i know that that is when he was driving really sloww but still, thats aamazing.

if your really woried about tire wear, get tires that have tread life warrenties

GRiDRaceTech · 01-10-2005, 11:08 PM

If you're worried about tire wear, you're in the wrong motorsport, bud.

ma71supraturbo · 01-10-2005, 11:16 PM

if you want to really be usdm tyte, use bleach instead of water (watch the paint tho)

sidebyslide · 01-11-2005, 12:13 AM

wow and with this sprayer you would need oh say a water tank in your car. thus weighing it down and what are you gonna do when it runs out? or did you guys plan on hookin it up to a hose...... sorry to be a downer but this is just not gonna happen.

NismoSigma · 01-11-2005, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mechaniac
best advice for preventing tire wear?

stop driving so much

It's like asking the question "How can I get 30mpg from a 300hp engine?"

Why you gotta do that now. The guys idea is great, its a sort of idea thats concept is so simple but its so difficult to concieve once you have it. I think you should try for a patent, it would be extremly cool to find out how it turns out!

Sideways Spanky · 01-11-2005, 05:56 AM

Use glycerin. Or some kind of biodegradeable soap. Like they do on the Mic Rig, when they make movies.

AuspeX · 01-11-2005, 07:05 AM

Unless you can spray down enough water to make the pavement soaking and not just wet you're not gonna get any difference. That will take more than just one sprayer per wheel, and a pump to force it out. Pumps are usually heavy. Also, unless you fill your trunk with water you won't have enough to go for very long.

In theory it's a good idea, but to get it to work will be nearly impossible.

Reckless Hero · 01-11-2005, 09:28 AM

its been done before, and good luck trying to take that on a track

Parry · 01-11-2005, 11:29 AM

You guys realize that all that smoke is from the tires and not the pavement right?

All this is going to do is weigh you down and soak your wheel wells. Something about the burning rubber, friction, heat, and rapid movement of the tires makes me suspect that the water will not hang around on them long enough to matter.

NismoSigma · 01-11-2005, 09:35 PM

Hmmm the basic idea is good, but the carrying out is the hard part, well so is with every good idea. What if instead of using water, you used something that weighed less, caused less friction, and was easier to lug around?

Whisky · 01-11-2005, 11:20 PM

If you are trying to make the ground wet so your tires slide more easily, yer out of luck.

If you are just trying to cool them off between runs, use a hand-pump water sprayer and spray them down after your run. It does help some, and its cheap and simple.

ward · 01-11-2005, 11:32 PM

the guys frome grassroots motorsports made this same system in there 86 and tryed to enter it in a drift event but were told they could not spray water all over the track. if you want i think you could find the article on ther site

Ris4drift · 01-12-2005, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mechaniac
best advice for preventing tire wear?

stop driving so much

It's like asking the question "How can I get 30mpg from a 300hp engine?"

LS1 gets 30 mpg....

Ris4drift · 01-12-2005, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ma71supraturbo
if you want to really be usdm tyte, use bleach instead of water (watch the paint tho)

to be precise, you should say "to make the tires want to chunk, use bleach"

Ris4drift · 01-12-2005, 12:10 AM

im working on using the resivior and pump off my old ciivc for this precise use, i havent started on it or put much though into it, but from what ive looked at when tires get extremely hot from a lot of drifting they tend to chunk/die faster. i was giong to use a setup that after a lap at whatever event i was at i hit a switch while driving at @ 5mph to spray water onto the tires while they are spinning to dissipate some of the heat to prolong life. but simply getting them wet isnt ogin to make them last any longer, but using it as a way to dissipate heat will help keep them from simly melting apart as many of my tires have done in the past.

Appleseed · 01-12-2005, 02:30 PM

I was thinking that you'd have to use a hell of a lot of water to wet the pavement. Oh well. The theory is good, but the application is hard.

Drift For Food · 01-13-2005, 12:38 AM

It's a good idea. Heat does a lot of damage to a tire. Even a small amount of water will do something. I'd almost think a continuous system or something that runs off tire speed to be best, not just short bursts. You could apply a small spray on the tires for say 20 minutes before refilling. Then just run an on/off switch to fire 'er up when you start your drift session.

A few things to think about:
-spray pattern(coverage, ability to get to tire(pressure, high speed stream))
-discharge rate and time till empty
-effectiveness of varying water amounts, find optimum
-water tank(sealed?) and water pick up points
-keep it simplistic/simple, nothing fancy or high tech is needed

drift180sx · 01-13-2005, 12:22 PM

i think this is a good idea also but... you also hav to remember how heavy water is and if it is in the back of your car it will defenitly throw off the weight balance... and to have enough water to actually do something for a given amount of time you would have to use alot of water which = alot of weight. one US gallon weighs 8.35lbs and that gallon would be used quickly so you would need more than one... to counter act this you would need to gut the interior to make it even again. and i believe the sloshing of the water would also make it harder...

01-10-2005, 12:21 PM	#1
Appleseed Schminking of gin Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 136	Idea for less tire wear I realize that this idea is weird but here goes. I know that you can make cheap intercooler sprayers with sprinkler parts fron Home Depot. Why not put them in the rear wheel wells to spray water on the tires on demand? Wouldn't this cut down on tire use?

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01-10-2005, 12:35 PM	#2
sdtouge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 868	i was thinking about something like this so0 when your parked it will spray off the dust and you wont get parking tickets. thats a good idea, you shoould make one a let us know how it goes

01-10-2005, 12:51 PM	#3
frictionfighter urban ninja sliding crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: la puente, cali Posts: 293	hahah that would be pretty cool.

01-10-2005, 04:26 PM	#4
Appleseed Schminking of gin Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 136	Well, you know how easy and quieter it is to slide in the rain, I was thinking about using the sprayers to wet the ground directly in front of the tires to induce the loss of grip.

01-10-2005, 04:36 PM	#6
sdtouge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 868	get 2 sprayers or a wide sprayer. is anyone going to do this? i want to see how it works out.

01-10-2005, 04:39 PM	#7
mechaniac nuckin futs! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 61	best advice for preventing tire wear? stop driving so much It's like asking the question "How can I get 30mpg from a 300hp engine?"

01-10-2005, 04:42 PM	#8
sdtouge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 868	the guy that won the uscc in the mr2 got like 45 mpg or so and over 400 hp i believe. i know that that is when he was driving really sloww but still, thats aamazing. if your really woried about tire wear, get tires that have tread life warrenties

01-10-2005, 11:08 PM	#9
GRiDRaceTech Opposite Lock Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,096	If you're worried about tire wear, you're in the wrong motorsport, bud.

01-10-2005, 11:16 PM	#10
ma71supraturbo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 162	if you want to really be usdm tyte, use bleach instead of water (watch the paint tho)

01-11-2005, 12:13 AM	#11
sidebyslide Touge Specialist Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 176	wow and with this sprayer you would need oh say a water tank in your car. thus weighing it down and what are you gonna do when it runs out? or did you guys plan on hookin it up to a hose...... sorry to be a downer but this is just not gonna happen.

01-11-2005, 05:56 AM	#13
Sideways Spanky Posts: 5,999,846 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Allen, Texas Posts: 89	Use glycerin. Or some kind of biodegradeable soap. Like they do on the Mic Rig, when they make movies.

01-11-2005, 07:05 AM	#14
AuspeX Dutch Drifter Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 148	Unless you can spray down enough water to make the pavement soaking and not just wet you're not gonna get any difference. That will take more than just one sprayer per wheel, and a pump to force it out. Pumps are usually heavy. Also, unless you fill your trunk with water you won't have enough to go for very long. In theory it's a good idea, but to get it to work will be nearly impossible.

01-11-2005, 09:28 AM	#15
Reckless Hero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 99	its been done before, and good luck trying to take that on a track

01-11-2005, 11:29 AM	#16
Parry Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 894	You guys realize that all that smoke is from the tires and not the pavement right? All this is going to do is weigh you down and soak your wheel wells. Something about the burning rubber, friction, heat, and rapid movement of the tires makes me suspect that the water will not hang around on them long enough to matter.

01-11-2005, 09:35 PM	#17
NismoSigma Driftin' to the MOON! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 675	Hmmm the basic idea is good, but the carrying out is the hard part, well so is with every good idea. What if instead of using water, you used something that weighed less, caused less friction, and was easier to lug around?

01-11-2005, 11:20 PM	#18
Whisky Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Clarita CA Posts: 82	If you are trying to make the ground wet so your tires slide more easily, yer out of luck. If you are just trying to cool them off between runs, use a hand-pump water sprayer and spray them down after your run. It does help some, and its cheap and simple.

01-11-2005, 11:32 PM	#19
ward Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: o.c. ca. Posts: 66	the guys frome grassroots motorsports made this same system in there 86 and tryed to enter it in a drift event but were told they could not spray water all over the track. if you want i think you could find the article on ther site

01-12-2005, 12:10 AM	#22
Ris4drift Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: houston texas Posts: 357	im working on using the resivior and pump off my old ciivc for this precise use, i havent started on it or put much though into it, but from what ive looked at when tires get extremely hot from a lot of drifting they tend to chunk/die faster. i was giong to use a setup that after a lap at whatever event i was at i hit a switch while driving at @ 5mph to spray water onto the tires while they are spinning to dissipate some of the heat to prolong life. but simply getting them wet isnt ogin to make them last any longer, but using it as a way to dissipate heat will help keep them from simly melting apart as many of my tires have done in the past.

01-12-2005, 02:30 PM	#23
Appleseed Schminking of gin Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 136	I was thinking that you'd have to use a hell of a lot of water to wet the pavement. Oh well. The theory is good, but the application is hard.

01-13-2005, 12:38 AM	#24
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	It's a good idea. Heat does a lot of damage to a tire. Even a small amount of water will do something. I'd almost think a continuous system or something that runs off tire speed to be best, not just short bursts. You could apply a small spray on the tires for say 20 minutes before refilling. Then just run an on/off switch to fire 'er up when you start your drift session. A few things to think about: -spray pattern(coverage, ability to get to tire(pressure, high speed stream)) -discharge rate and time till empty -effectiveness of varying water amounts, find optimum -water tank(sealed?) and water pick up points -keep it simplistic/simple, nothing fancy or high tech is needed

01-13-2005, 12:22 PM	#25
drift180sx underground drifter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the outer reigns of the universe Posts: 128	i think this is a good idea also but... you also hav to remember how heavy water is and if it is in the back of your car it will defenitly throw off the weight balance... and to have enough water to actually do something for a given amount of time you would have to use alot of water which = alot of weight. one US gallon weighs 8.35lbs and that gallon would be used quickly so you would need more than one... to counter act this you would need to gut the interior to make it even again. and i believe the sloshing of the water would also make it harder...