4wd to ---> rwd

[Top Secret]

is it hard to make a 4wd car to rwd and how do you do it???

[J-BloodAE86]

take out the front driveshafts and then lock the center diff

[Weapon X]

Yeah, but then don't you lose half the power?

[Ghost of Duluth]

Um why would you lose power if you take stress off the drivetrain? It's like a 4WD truck that loses the Transfer case. Power stays the same, just the distribution of it differs. Where you had power going to 4 wheels, you now have it going to 2.

You must not live in the south. If you did then you would know the 1st Redneck rule of truck buying. "Does the 4wd work?"

[Weapon X]

Don't live in the south, thank god ^_^ Anway, thanks for clearing that up.

[Chas]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
Um why would you lose power if you take stress off the drivetrain? It's like a 4WD truck that loses the Transfer case. Power stays the same, just the distribution of it differs. Where you had power going to 4 wheels, you now have it going to 2.

You must not live in the south. If you did then you would know the 1st Redneck rule of truck buying. "Does the 4wd work?"

Not ture. If you removed the front dirveshafts on like a subaru, or any all time AWD car, youll lose power. 4WD is not the same as AWD.

[sobe]

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[S15 DrIfTeR]

Chas is right what kind of car is it

[J-BloodAE86]

actually chas isn't exactly right, you dont lose power if you lock the center diff, which is what we are talking about and what i said in the first place.

Untill the drivetrain arrangement is understood there have been some incorrect answers. On both sides.

Not only that but I bet this is going to be another flame-fest initiated by an ignorant question.

What car are you talking about?
How much are you willing to spend to make this happen?
Are there any street legality issues that will surround this project?
(Track or Street car)

Lets get some fact before the flames fly and somebody gets their wuddle feelin's hurt

[J-BloodAE86]

Originally posted by Sideways_In_SD
Untill the drivetrain arrangement is understood there have been some incorrect answers. On both sides.

what incorrest answers? chas was jsut talking about something different.

its really not hard or expensive, you dont even need to take out the front driveshafts, a rwd center diff is all you need to buy, but taking out the driveshafts saves weight.

[mranlet]

EVERYBODY'S WRONG!!! MUHAHAHA!!!

Accually, You may not need to buy anything or take out anything or it may not be possible without buying a new transmission...

This guy doesn't seem to care about his post anymore so I'll save the letcure for when he posts again...

-MR

[Top Secret]

um yea i do

[Ghost of Duluth]

I'm not getting my feelings hurt. If i'm wrong then im wrong. I'd sure like to know the right info though so I don't go and shoot the ol food pipe off with wrong info.

Originally posted by J-BloodAE86
what incorrest answers? chas was jsut talking about something different.

its really not hard or expensive, you dont even need to take out the front driveshafts, a rwd center diff is all you need to buy, but taking out the driveshafts saves weight.

YOU'RE SO FOCKIN OFF-BASE I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO START WITH YOU. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT CAR (OR TRUCK FOR THAT MANNER) HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOOO.... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FOCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE JUST RIDING CHAS' D!CK!!!!
NOW BE QUIET AN LET THE GROWN FOLKS DO THE EXPLAINING SO YOU LEARN SOMETHING!!!

Originally posted by Top Secret
um yea i do

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/\Then answer the questions, what car, etc.!!!

I should get a job at Psychic Friends I swear.

OK Mike on your marks, get set....

[Chas]

Originally posted by Sideways_In_SD
YOU'RE JUST RIDING CHAS' D!CK!!!!

Dont try and keep it all to yourslef, i like to share my sasuage.

[mranlet]

Originally posted by Sideways_In_SD
OK Mike on your marks, get set....

Alright...

The first thing to understand is that AWD systems are different from 4WD systems - AWD intellegently redirects power away from spinning wheels to gripping wheels (rear to front on rear-biased, front to rear on front-biased) Depending on the biasins, a full-time AWD car will drive either the front end or the rear end and only redirect power when needed. 4WD directs either full power rear, or full power 50%/50% in most cases (with high and low settings where applicable).

For rear-biased computer controlled transmissions (Subaru, Audi) you can probably disengage the slip sensors by pulling a fuse, uncoupling a computer connection, or something of the sort, depending on the nature of the system (it is car-specific, generally). Rear-biased systems will send 100% of the power to the rear as long as the rear isn't slipping, but with disengaged sensors, the computer will never know ::mischevious laugh:: If you are going to switch the car to RWD permenently, you may want to consider removing the front half-shafts, which will have the same effect as getting lighter wheels and improve braking as well as other things.

Front-biased systems are a little trickier, and will often only direct up to 50% of the power rearwards (most differentials will only be able to handle 50% of engine output anyway). Even if you can get all of the power to the rear, introducing more power to the system can be detremental to engine parts, especially since most front-biased systems have transverse mounted engines and you will be turning the direction of drive 90 degrees. This can be done successfully, such as VW's FWD.

I'll post more as I think of it, unless you have specific questions - hope this helps!

-MR

Originally posted by Chas
Dont try and keep it all to yourslef, i like to share my sasuage.

Not if I rip that little cocktail wienie right off and tack it to your left eyebal with a dirty hypodermic needle.

And by the looks of you, you need to start sharing more than your sausage, you need to share your whole meal you fat bastard!!!

MR-
Just what I was thinking. I just didn't want to bother without more details of the layout. I hate generalizing

[Chas]

Your sick.

[Ghost of Duluth]

Did he say a dirty fat bastard and the eyeball of a needle....wait or was it a needle with blue eyes and a bastard son of a fat guy wearing phatfarm jeans.....wait I got it. Vermins gonna kill Johnnys mother at the savoy theatre at 3 oclock....pass it on

Bastich

[///FiveOneOh]

one question.. WHY!? if you have a 4wd or AWD and want to drift. learn the AWD drift.. buy a RWD or dont; drift at all.. I dont; mean to sound harsh but a 4WD or AWD was made to be 4WD or AWD.

What I can see happenign if you were to remove the front half shafts and lock the diff is added stress on the centre diff (provided your car has one) if you do not lock the front diff all the power will go to it and you won;t move. lock it and suddenly its spinning like mad tryign to redirect all the power to the *Censored**Censored**Censored* end and thats NOT what it was made for!

iuno.. I think its just a plain bad idea. if it has FWD lock out. cool. if not dont; even bother. just asking for un-needed problems.

[Weapon X]

And by the looks of you, you need to start sharing more than your sausage, you need to share your whole meal you fat bastard!!!

That was harsh!

Originally posted by Weapon X
That was harsh!

Save it for momma!!

We have a apecial relationship (he's my *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*)

Wanker

[Chas]

Originally posted by Sideways_In_SD
Save it for momma!!

We have a apecial relationship (he's my *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*)

Wanker

I dont think thats how it really is.

[J-BloodAE86]

ok sideways, how was what mranlet said ANY different than what i said?? I have already taken apart and but back together two AWD systems and a SUV part time 4wd system. what awd systems have you worked on?? i know what i am talking about, what i said is applicable to almost all types of awd/4wd, and more specifically cars which would most commonly be used for drifting. was i wrong? no. i was just simplifing. stop b!tching