S13 RUCA- Needed or what?

Aiki-Drift · 03-07-2005, 06:35 PM

I'll be receiving my Silkroads coilovers soon. I'll be riding on the stock 15 in. alloys for a while. Are RUCAs needed. I know the lower the car is the higher the susp. geometry change will be. I won't be slamming my car. I'd say I will leave approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch of wheel gap(in relation to fender). Should I get it over with and upgrade now? (while the susp. is out/durability advantage)....Please share your experiances and thank you in advance.

Stannyboy · 03-07-2005, 07:13 PM

What will you be doing with the car? For everday driving or drifting or both?

Aiki-Drift · 03-07-2005, 09:39 PM

Both. Mostly daily driving honestly with the occasional drift event. (money and time

)

Aiki-Drift · 03-17-2005, 08:52 PM

Wayne · 03-18-2005, 05:00 PM

id say youd be alright with the stockers for awhile, you can use the the mounts to play with a little bit of camber. all you need is a little neg. and youll be alright

raging panda · 03-27-2005, 11:47 AM

he doesnt need a little negative camber, he need positive after he lowers the car. When you lower it, you will have a ton of negative camber, and you need the ruca to return the camber closer to 0, unless you like a ton of camber in the back, and you dont mind getting new tires every 3-4 months. Your stock ruca will adjust a little, but not a whole lot so you will still have negative camber without adj. ruca. depedning on how much you lower it, your stockers might make it bearable.

Aiki-Drift · 03-27-2005, 12:01 PM

I suppose i'll find out when I lower the car and try get an alignment done thereafter.

Wayne · 03-27-2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raging panda

he doesnt need a little negative camber, he need positive after he lowers the car. When you lower it, you will have a ton of negative camber, and you need the ruca to return the camber closer to 0, unless you like a ton of camber in the back, and you dont mind getting new tires every 3-4 months. Your stock ruca will adjust a little, but not a whole lot so you will still have negative camber without adj. ruca. depedning on how much you lower it, your stockers might make it bearable.

so your telling me all the thousands of drifters are running at 0 or positive camber haahahah your funny

raging panda · 03-27-2005, 07:54 PM

i said daily driving like he wanted as close to 0 as possible

with a ton of negative camber, you need some positive to bring it closer to 0,

dont get smart

J-BloodAE86 · 03-27-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aiki-Drift

I'll be receiving my Silkroads coilovers soon. I'll be riding on the stock 15 in. alloys for a while. Are RUCAs needed. I know the lower the car is the higher the susp. geometry change will be. I won't be slamming my car. I'd say I will leave approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch of wheel gap(in relation to fender). Should I get it over with and upgrade now? (while the susp. is out/durability advantage)....Please share your experiances and thank you in advance.

my question is why dju dish out the dough for silkroads, but your still running stock steelies?

raging panda · 03-27-2005, 11:09 PM

thats smart unless he doesnt have lsd and a bucket seat yet

Aiki-Drift · 03-28-2005, 06:52 PM

Well man. The car is completely stock. The coilovers will be here in a few days. I wanted very good suspension, so I simply bought it. They're better and less of a hassle than 16 way adj. Tein HE. It only cost me $100 more. *Affordable* wheels are the next purchase after I replace the suspension bushings very soon. IMO money is better spent on suspension pieces and their counterparts, rather than new wheels. On the other hand, I will purchase wheels at least a month after. After familiarizing myself with my car's new found attitude, budget permitting, Kaaz will recieve my business. I have another $2000 in the bank, but I'm saving and stacking on that for a future rebuild of the KA, hopefully end of summer/early fall.

Aiki-Drift · 03-28-2005, 06:56 PM

Oh yeah. What company makes suspension bushings for S13? Is Nismo easy to find? Factory Nissan? Would rubber be best for Daily Driving in comparison to a whatever brand polyurethane bushing kit? Thanks!

teamINERTIA · 03-28-2005, 07:29 PM

i'd say go with energy suspension i'm sure someone will flame me for this because if nismo this or whoever that but the energy suspension kit is a great product plus if your on a budget it's an even better product the only thing is, is that you 'll have to call them for the kit because they haven't released it on the market yet at least from what i understaned but if you call them they'll sell you it for around $180 bucks thats how my brother got his and he loves the feel of them they're definently worth the money.

Aiki-Drift · 03-28-2005, 07:48 PM

Polyurethane? I had Energy bushings in my civic hatch motor mounts. I don't know about the suspension, but on a hard launch the f@!$%n glove box would pop open. I thought the world was ending (exagerating). But, the dash would shake on hard clutch bangs. I figure new rubber will be stiff, but help the already stiff silkroad spring rates a bit. Some one correct me.

teamINERTIA · 03-28-2005, 07:54 PM

yea i had the poly mounts on my eg civic hatch and they we're hard also but my brothers car is setup with the energy suspension kit and he has jic flt-a2's on his car and they ride fine we have the suspension set at 10 all the way around and he has no probs. then again i'm used to stiff suspension so maybe it doesnt effect me as bad but if the silk roads have dampening adjustment he should be fine.

Wayne · 03-28-2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raging panda

i said daily driving like he wanted as close to 0 as possible

with a ton of negative camber, you need some positive to bring it closer to 0,

dont get smart

oh please man ahaha dont be a pu$sy. thiers even more people that run negative camber for dialy driving. haahah ask anyone who uses thier car as their daily driver/drifter. 0 camber= weak sauce ahahah .

raging panda · 03-28-2005, 11:00 PM

alright, edited, dont want anymore mama drama

i know some run negative camber all the time, but if you cant afford tires every 4 months, then too much negative camber is going to hurt your budget, and ruca with closer to a 0 offest will save those tires, and make it easier to create lots of negative camber for events or races.

Wayne · 03-28-2005, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raging panda

wow, what a jerk, i answer someone else's question, and he decides to tell me what everyone else does. thats cool that everyone else cant afford ruca and correct camber to save their tires, awesome, good investment. i know others run camber like that, i did it too, but i answered his question, thats all. he asked, i answered, you made poop come out of your mouth, just like all the other enlightening posts you have shared with everyone. what a waste of a life you are. im glad everyone is on the same page.

what the f*ck are you talking about first of all i answered his question before you did, i gave him my two cents, you had to put your input into my suggestion, dude i dont wanan know your opinion. your telling me you cant afford 250 bucks for a rucas, what mcdonalds doesnt pay you anymore or mommy and daddy shut your allowence off. i answered his question two, and i think it just shows how mature you are to say that im a waste of life hahaah i think thats pretty funny but ya if your having any more problems with me, just pm me so we can stop wasting posts on this kids thread.

oh ya and if everyone else does something, dont you think they do it for a reason ??? or are they just all dumb and do things wrong and we should all drive around with 0 camber, sounds pretty stupid if you ask me but again dont worry about what i have to say hahaha, bring that attitude with you to ziptied.com ill see you their boss

bring your postive camber too, so everyone can laugh at you

03-07-2005, 06:35 PM	#1
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	S13 RUCA- Needed or what? I'll be receiving my Silkroads coilovers soon. I'll be riding on the stock 15 in. alloys for a while. Are RUCAs needed. I know the lower the car is the higher the susp. geometry change will be. I won't be slamming my car. I'd say I will leave approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch of wheel gap(in relation to fender). Should I get it over with and upgrade now? (while the susp. is out/durability advantage)....Please share your experiances and thank you in advance.

03-28-2005, 11:00 PM	#18
raging panda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Renton. Posts: 379	alright, edited, dont want anymore mama drama i know some run negative camber all the time, but if you cant afford tires every 4 months, then too much negative camber is going to hurt your budget, and ruca with closer to a 0 offest will save those tires, and make it easier to create lots of negative camber for events or races. Last edited by raging panda; 03-28-2005 at 11:14 PM.

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03-07-2005, 07:13 PM	#2
Stannyboy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 818 Area... Posts: 383	What will you be doing with the car? For everday driving or drifting or both?

03-07-2005, 09:39 PM	#3
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	Both. Mostly daily driving honestly with the occasional drift event. (money and time )

03-17-2005, 08:52 PM	#4
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132

03-18-2005, 05:00 PM	#5
Wayne Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	id say youd be alright with the stockers for awhile, you can use the the mounts to play with a little bit of camber. all you need is a little neg. and youll be alright

03-27-2005, 11:47 AM	#6
raging panda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Renton. Posts: 379	he doesnt need a little negative camber, he need positive after he lowers the car. When you lower it, you will have a ton of negative camber, and you need the ruca to return the camber closer to 0, unless you like a ton of camber in the back, and you dont mind getting new tires every 3-4 months. Your stock ruca will adjust a little, but not a whole lot so you will still have negative camber without adj. ruca. depedning on how much you lower it, your stockers might make it bearable.

03-27-2005, 12:01 PM	#7
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	I suppose i'll find out when I lower the car and try get an alignment done thereafter.

03-27-2005, 07:54 PM	#9
raging panda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Renton. Posts: 379	i said daily driving like he wanted as close to 0 as possible with a ton of negative camber, you need some positive to bring it closer to 0, dont get smart

03-27-2005, 11:09 PM	#11
raging panda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Renton. Posts: 379	thats smart unless he doesnt have lsd and a bucket seat yet

03-28-2005, 06:52 PM	#12
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	Well man. The car is completely stock. The coilovers will be here in a few days. I wanted very good suspension, so I simply bought it. They're better and less of a hassle than 16 way adj. Tein HE. It only cost me $100 more. Affordable wheels are the next purchase after I replace the suspension bushings very soon. IMO money is better spent on suspension pieces and their counterparts, rather than new wheels. On the other hand, I will purchase wheels at least a month after. After familiarizing myself with my car's new found attitude, budget permitting, Kaaz will recieve my business. I have another $2000 in the bank, but I'm saving and stacking on that for a future rebuild of the KA, hopefully end of summer/early fall.

03-28-2005, 06:56 PM	#13
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	Oh yeah. What company makes suspension bushings for S13? Is Nismo easy to find? Factory Nissan? Would rubber be best for Daily Driving in comparison to a whatever brand polyurethane bushing kit? Thanks!

03-28-2005, 07:29 PM	#14
teamINERTIA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: norcal modesto Posts: 125	i'd say go with energy suspension i'm sure someone will flame me for this because if nismo this or whoever that but the energy suspension kit is a great product plus if your on a budget it's an even better product the only thing is, is that you 'll have to call them for the kit because they haven't released it on the market yet at least from what i understaned but if you call them they'll sell you it for around $180 bucks thats how my brother got his and he loves the feel of them they're definently worth the money.

03-28-2005, 07:48 PM	#15
Aiki-Drift Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey :( Posts: 132	Polyurethane? I had Energy bushings in my civic hatch motor mounts. I don't know about the suspension, but on a hard launch the f@!$%n glove box would pop open. I thought the world was ending (exagerating). But, the dash would shake on hard clutch bangs. I figure new rubber will be stiff, but help the already stiff silkroad spring rates a bit. Some one correct me.

03-28-2005, 07:54 PM	#16
teamINERTIA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: norcal modesto Posts: 125	yea i had the poly mounts on my eg civic hatch and they we're hard also but my brothers car is setup with the energy suspension kit and he has jic flt-a2's on his car and they ride fine we have the suspension set at 10 all the way around and he has no probs. then again i'm used to stiff suspension so maybe it doesnt effect me as bad but if the silk roads have dampening adjustment he should be fine.