e-brake problems

sukimoto · 04-19-2005, 06:09 AM

last night i put my car up and tightened the e-brake since its loose and doesn't break traction. It's tighter, more of the threads are showing under the car and it's harder to pull up, but the only break in traction i get is if i'm going 50+ and i pull it up really hard it will break for a split second do i need to tighten it more, or do i need to replace something?

thanks in advance

soultron · 04-19-2005, 07:36 AM

What are your brake shoes/pads like in the back?
I didn't get a whole lot of action from my handbrake until I got rid of the 10 year old stuff. I changed the shoes, the drums and the cables and then it worked alot better. Maybe that's something to check as your car is as old as mine is.

sukimoto · 04-19-2005, 10:35 AM

well just a couple months ago i got my entire brake system redone....

Drift For Food · 04-19-2005, 11:11 PM

Maybe there's just not much e-brake leverage for that car. Every car is different for how well the e-brake works. Some are purely ment to hold the car and not much more. Others seem to work very well and can lock up the tires relatively easily.

Try to find a way to get some more leverage out of the system. Whether it's a longer handle or a changed linkage point, find a way to give you a greater force advantage. Be a little careful with this as greater leverage also means a greater range of motion needed to move the pads the same distance. If you adjust it too far, you may not have enough room to fully engage the e-brake before the handle physically tops out.

Stannyboy · 04-20-2005, 12:32 AM

are you clutching in?

sukimoto · 04-20-2005, 04:32 AM

automatic

i'm going to get my tranny swapped this summer hopefully.

Stannyboy · 04-20-2005, 07:04 AM

hmm i forget what my friend does, in her auto but she breaks it loose.. i would suppose low speed turns keep it in 2nd and yank on that bad boy if its not as effective then try weight transfer.

TeamFazzne · 04-20-2005, 07:57 AM

Project µ has the new D1 spec rear brake pads that are suppost to grip alot harder. You could try those out. Also try shifting weight and pull the hand brake during that. Like, if ur making a left side drift. Jerk right then left and a split second after you jerk left, yank the e-brake. I used that when i was drifting in a FF car that had a bad e-brake and worked quite well. Hit me back on AIM, Naval546, if that doesnt work. I have some other ways.

sukimoto · 04-20-2005, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stannyboy

hmm i forget what my friend does, in her auto but she breaks it loose.. i would suppose low speed turns keep it in 2nd and yank on that bad boy if its not as effective then try weight transfer.

like i said earlier...it's an automatic

sukimoto · 04-20-2005, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamFazzne

Project µ has the new D1 spec rear brake pads that are suppost to grip alot harder. You could try those out. Also try shifting weight and pull the hand brake during that. Like, if ur making a left side drift. Jerk right then left and a split second after you jerk left, yank the e-brake. I used that when i was drifting in a FF car that had a bad e-brake and worked quite well. Hit me back on AIM, Naval546, if that doesnt work. I have some other ways.

thanks! im gonna go try that right now. XD

cfrost · 04-20-2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sukimoto

like i said earlier...it's an automatic

your car doesn't have a 1-2-D?

you don't NEED the ebrake to drift, try some other methods the guys are suggesting

I would recommend throwing around the weight and getting a feel for your max grip and then just inching past that

Drift For Food · 04-21-2005, 01:02 AM

Feint and braking techniques are your friends

They work on any car, any drivetrain, any platform. Fwd, rwd, awd, manual, auto, truck, car, whatever, these techiniques work exactly the same. It's what got me started when I was stuck with a fwd, automatic boat of a car with a lovely, unusable foot e-brake that liked to stick on. They transfered right over to rwd and now awd that finally has a very usable, good working hand e-brake(still hardly use it), same techniques, very different vehicles. I like to think of them as the bread and butter of drifting, lol.

If you're not familiar with them, do a bit of research on them, lots of posts if you do some searching. I think there's even a sticky for the braking technique.

soultron · 04-21-2005, 07:20 AM

Oh, ok. I didn't know your car was auto either. That make the handbrake kinda weird. You can pull it, but the car is always in drive, so the force of the drivetrain is going to work against you. Some of the other folks are saying fient and wiegh shift, and I agree. You'll get more out of it than the e-brake.

sukimoto · 04-21-2005, 07:28 PM

i have been practicing other techniques its just that i want to learn as many techniques as i can since they all have their own advantages.

FCPilot · 04-26-2005, 09:01 PM

shifting the weight does wonders. but yea, just get a feel for ur gripping speeds, that's a good one. on fc's, there's a lil hex thing u can turn to tighten or loosen ur e-brake. its weird, like my tires lock when my brake is halfway up, maybe a lil less. its right next to it, under all that plastic. i don't know how urs is set up, so i can't help too much. what everyone else says should work.

one of my friends just slows down and throws it from D to 2 and then yanks the *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* out of it. its pretty damn fun. he handles it like a stick!

04-19-2005, 06:09 AM	#1
sukimoto 1979 Datsun 280zx Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wayne, Michigan Posts: 137	e-brake problems last night i put my car up and tightened the e-brake since its loose and doesn't break traction. It's tighter, more of the threads are showing under the car and it's harder to pull up, but the only break in traction i get is if i'm going 50+ and i pull it up really hard it will break for a split second do i need to tighten it more, or do i need to replace something? thanks in advance

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04-19-2005, 07:36 AM	#2
soultron Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Willy NC. Posts: 1,059	What are your brake shoes/pads like in the back? I didn't get a whole lot of action from my handbrake until I got rid of the 10 year old stuff. I changed the shoes, the drums and the cables and then it worked alot better. Maybe that's something to check as your car is as old as mine is.

04-19-2005, 10:35 AM	#3
sukimoto 1979 Datsun 280zx Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wayne, Michigan Posts: 137	well just a couple months ago i got my entire brake system redone....

04-19-2005, 11:11 PM	#4
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	Maybe there's just not much e-brake leverage for that car. Every car is different for how well the e-brake works. Some are purely ment to hold the car and not much more. Others seem to work very well and can lock up the tires relatively easily. Try to find a way to get some more leverage out of the system. Whether it's a longer handle or a changed linkage point, find a way to give you a greater force advantage. Be a little careful with this as greater leverage also means a greater range of motion needed to move the pads the same distance. If you adjust it too far, you may not have enough room to fully engage the e-brake before the handle physically tops out.

04-20-2005, 12:32 AM	#5
Stannyboy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 818 Area... Posts: 383	are you clutching in?

04-20-2005, 04:32 AM	#6
sukimoto 1979 Datsun 280zx Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wayne, Michigan Posts: 137	automatic i'm going to get my tranny swapped this summer hopefully.

04-20-2005, 07:04 AM	#7
Stannyboy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 818 Area... Posts: 383	hmm i forget what my friend does, in her auto but she breaks it loose.. i would suppose low speed turns keep it in 2nd and yank on that bad boy if its not as effective then try weight transfer.

04-20-2005, 07:57 AM	#8
TeamFazzne User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15	Project µ has the new D1 spec rear brake pads that are suppost to grip alot harder. You could try those out. Also try shifting weight and pull the hand brake during that. Like, if ur making a left side drift. Jerk right then left and a split second after you jerk left, yank the e-brake. I used that when i was drifting in a FF car that had a bad e-brake and worked quite well. Hit me back on AIM, Naval546, if that doesnt work. I have some other ways.

04-21-2005, 01:02 AM	#12
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	Feint and braking techniques are your friends They work on any car, any drivetrain, any platform. Fwd, rwd, awd, manual, auto, truck, car, whatever, these techiniques work exactly the same. It's what got me started when I was stuck with a fwd, automatic boat of a car with a lovely, unusable foot e-brake that liked to stick on. They transfered right over to rwd and now awd that finally has a very usable, good working hand e-brake(still hardly use it), same techniques, very different vehicles. I like to think of them as the bread and butter of drifting, lol. If you're not familiar with them, do a bit of research on them, lots of posts if you do some searching. I think there's even a sticky for the braking technique.

04-21-2005, 07:20 AM	#13
soultron Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Willy NC. Posts: 1,059	Oh, ok. I didn't know your car was auto either. That make the handbrake kinda weird. You can pull it, but the car is always in drive, so the force of the drivetrain is going to work against you. Some of the other folks are saying fient and wiegh shift, and I agree. You'll get more out of it than the e-brake.

04-21-2005, 07:28 PM	#14
sukimoto 1979 Datsun 280zx Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wayne, Michigan Posts: 137	i have been practicing other techniques its just that i want to learn as many techniques as i can since they all have their own advantages.

04-26-2005, 09:01 PM	#15
FCPilot User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: south cal. Posts: 18	shifting the weight does wonders. but yea, just get a feel for ur gripping speeds, that's a good one. on fc's, there's a lil hex thing u can turn to tighten or loosen ur e-brake. its weird, like my tires lock when my brake is halfway up, maybe a lil less. its right next to it, under all that plastic. i don't know how urs is set up, so i can't help too much. what everyone else says should work. one of my friends just slows down and throws it from D to 2 and then yanks the CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored out of it. its pretty damn fun. he handles it like a stick!