Widebody?Pros? Cons?

FD3S_pilot · 05-04-2006, 09:20 PM

Can someone tell be the pro's and con's of going widebody?

Hyde · 05-04-2006, 09:24 PM

i guess the pro of a widebody is that you have a wider stance for better traction and handling i guess, plus it looks cool.

240LoVeR · 05-05-2006, 04:58 AM

cons......dont crash its just one more thing to fix if you do, and if you go widebody you will need wider tires meaning more traction meaning for drifting you may need more power depending on your style and how much you really do drift.

sdtouge · 05-05-2006, 09:49 PM

unless you have some fat *Censored**Censored**Censored* wheels and sick offset its lame

but pros, honda drivers will give you props
cons, your car will look ricey and you will have wasted 500 or 1000 or whatever and might not even have a diff or something.//lame.

Slapshotnerd · 05-06-2006, 06:03 PM

pros - can fit wider wheels
- looks a lot better (in most circumstances)

cons - costs money to install and paint
- You have to cut the body underneath the widebody to fit it (if it's done properly), which means you can never go back to stock form
- in most cases you're swapping out factory sheetmetal for a fiberglass or urethane widebody

DRIFTER-M · 05-07-2006, 01:26 PM

Pros
-Looks sweet
-can run wider wheels
-looks sweet

Cons
-You have to have wide wheels that fill it out or else it just looks stupid
-expensive for the wheels
-remember, you will be wider. If this is a daily car too, it may be harder to park and stuff depending on how wide you go.

brainfood · 05-07-2006, 06:23 PM

Are 50mm overfenders 50mm wider on each side? Making the car 100mm overall or is 50mm the overall size of the car?

dreamdrivedrift · 05-07-2006, 06:42 PM

thats correct brainfood

brainfood · 05-08-2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamdrivedrift

thats correct brainfood

heh, so 25mm wider on each side making it 50mm overall?

dreamdrivedrift · 05-08-2006, 01:01 PM

no, 50 mm wider each side, so 100 mm wider overall.

brainfood · 05-08-2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamdrivedrift

no, 50 mm wider each side, so 100 mm wider overall.

thats a huge difference spacers would have to be huge... no overfenders to cover up my body damage then. anyone make 25mm rears?

s15driftking · 05-09-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FD3S_pilot

Can someone tell be the pro's and con's of going widebody?

pros = running wider/loweroffset wheels, also, it allows you to run a wider tire dependign on what you are looking for.

cons = they fit/look like *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, and is one more thing you have to re-buy when you hit

brainfood · 05-09-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking

pros = running wider/loweroffset wheels, also, it allows you to run a wider tire dependign on what you are looking for.

cons = they fit/look like *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, and is one more thing you have to re-buy when you hit

But on the plus side its one more thing you can buy when you hit. Usually body work is more expensive then painting a new overfender and pop riviting it back on. At least good body work

Octagon · 05-09-2006, 05:18 PM

Widebodies are also intended for if you change around suspension pick-up points. A lot of times, racers will widen a frame or use a new k-member in order to move the control arm pick-up points out further from the centreline of the car.

This will be in concert, often, with raising the frame/k-member in the body in order to drop the overall ride height (sometimes called "channeling") and/or drop spindles, tubular a-arms of varied lengths, and many other significant suspension geometry changes.

Sometimes, even, the widebody over-fenders or "fenderboxes" as the old-schoolers call 'em, housed oil coolers, radiators, intercoolers, or various ducts for venting hot engine bay air out and/or cool air for the brakes in.

A good example of this would be anything from the old IMSA GTU ranks, like this S13 driven by Butch Leitzinger.

s15driftking · 05-09-2006, 11:48 PM

octagon, thank you for bringing up that excellent point!! good stuff!!!

also, brainfood, good point as well, i guess that is true, ebcause its way easier to replace a 200 dollar set of overfenders than re-true a quarter panel

brainfood · 05-10-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking

octagon, thank you for bringing up that excellent point!! good stuff!!!

also, brainfood, good point as well, i guess that is true, ebcause its way easier to replace a 200 dollar set of overfenders than re-true a quarter panel

heh I know all about that I backed into the wall at Long beach fd and am still trying to decide to put overfenders on or fix the quarter panel that is all buckled now.

TIREKILLER · 05-10-2006, 02:50 PM

I started out with 50mm over fenders, but i tweeked them and trimed them to get them smaller. hold them down while you poprivet them on and you can make em as wide as you want really. And yeah i used em cuz my quarter panels were pretty well *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*ed anyway. Much cheaper and faster than real bodywork. Heres a few progress pics of mine.

http://dailydrifter.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=117

UNITEDMASTER · 05-10-2006, 09:08 PM

Helo OCTAGON great pic those were the GLORY DAYS so many memories.The good ol IMSA GTU-GTO and prototype battles. IMO that was the greatest era in motorsports(tears)

. BRAINFOOD I got the same prob with my S13 damaged QTR but I think Im gonna fix the stock crap LMK whats up with your whip.

brainfood · 05-10-2006, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNITEDMASTER

Helo OCTAGON great pic those were the GLORY DAYS so many memories.The good ol IMSA GTU-GTO and prototype battles. IMO that was the greatest era in motorsports(tears)

. BRAINFOOD I got the same prob with my S13 damaged QTR but I think Im gonna fix the stock crap LMK whats up with your whip.

Yeah mine isnt too bad and for a track car I can live with just pounding it out straight and leaving it so far to fix my chassis that at first I thought was totaled has been $20 for a chain

luckily I had some friends help out with some parts for free but even if I paid for them it wouldnt have been more than a couple of hundred. Then probably $70-$100 for my exhaust then I will be back on the road.

tirekillers: How much wider are your overfenders now? I would run them if I only had to run 25mm bolt ons to flush my wheels so if they were maybe 20mm wider that would be cool since I can run about a 5mm spacer now to flush them.

TIREKILLER · 05-11-2006, 06:36 AM

I measured from the spring out on both sides while i was installing them. I got 13.5 inches to the overfender wich is about an inch wider than where the lip was. Now, my lip was pulled some before the overs so i dont really have a good baseline but that should give you atleast something to work with.

A little more detail on my setup for reference. The rear wheels are 18x10 +24 with no spacers. Tire is a 235/40. The rear was aligned to -1.5 camber with the old wheels (17x7.5 +27

) and has not been realigned yet.

brainfood · 05-11-2006, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIREKILLER

I measured from the spring out on both sides while i was installing them. I got 13.5 inches to the overfender wich is about an inch wider than where the lip was. Now, my lip was pulled some before the overs so i dont really have a good baseline but that should give you atleast something to work with.

A little more detail on my setup for reference. The rear wheels are 18x10 +24 with no spacers. Tire is a 235/40. The rear was aligned to -1.5 camber with the old wheels (17x7.5 +27

) and has not been realigned yet.

those are flush? I run 17x9 +20 or +15 and they are flush with 225's. So the 10's you are running should sit in about the same place. But I run those one stock fenders just the lip rolled. ahhh nevermind forgot your s13

TIREKILLER · 05-11-2006, 09:10 AM

No, I wouldnt say they were flush with the overs, im gonna run a spacer once i switch up to a 255-265/35 tire. Without the overs these were slightly mexi-flush i prolly could have added some camber to fix it but i wouldnt have been able to go to a wider tire.

And yeah im MOSTLY S13.

touge sil80 · 05-17-2006, 07:11 PM

bodyworking metal sucks, body working fiberglass is torture. i work on classic vettes, i think i'm gonna stick with metal. plus plastic fender flares bring a classic jdm feel to early 90's cars IMHO

s13/350z · 06-10-2006, 07:57 PM

im late, but a wide body that is wind tunnel tested will give you more downforce and allow for wider wheels and hiding more objects in the wider body(IE relocating oil coolers, radiators, etc.). For a street car its just for cool points, or hater points. For REAL race cars it is beneficial, for all these street cars, there is no point of wasting your time and money when it could be spent on better things (unless you are doing it to a show car).

s15driftking · 06-11-2006, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13/350z

there is no point of wasting your time and money when it could be spent on better things (unless you are doing it to a show car).

what if you've done everyhtign else?

i mean, my motor is in the "End all be all" stage and the suspension components i have chosen work exceptionally well.... so what else is their right? a bucket, a LSD, and baller wheels, i have all 3, so now, maybe widebody??? gotta fit those 18x13 works somehow

05-04-2006, 09:20 PM	#1
FD3S_pilot mmmm...Spirit R...... Join Date: May 2004 Location: Santa Rosa,CA Posts: 785	Widebody?Pros? Cons? Can someone tell be the pro's and con's of going widebody?

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

05-04-2006, 09:24 PM	#2
Hyde Oh Baby! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: navarre,fort walton beach, florida Posts: 222	i guess the pro of a widebody is that you have a wider stance for better traction and handling i guess, plus it looks cool.

05-05-2006, 04:58 AM	#3
240LoVeR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: minnesota Posts: 130	cons......dont crash its just one more thing to fix if you do, and if you go widebody you will need wider tires meaning more traction meaning for drifting you may need more power depending on your style and how much you really do drift.

05-05-2006, 09:49 PM	#4
sdtouge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 868	unless you have some fat CensoredCensoredCensored wheels and sick offset its lame but pros, honda drivers will give you props cons, your car will look ricey and you will have wasted 500 or 1000 or whatever and might not even have a diff or something.//lame.

05-06-2006, 06:03 PM	#5
Slapshotnerd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,919	pros - can fit wider wheels - looks a lot better (in most circumstances) cons - costs money to install and paint - You have to cut the body underneath the widebody to fit it (if it's done properly), which means you can never go back to stock form - in most cases you're swapping out factory sheetmetal for a fiberglass or urethane widebody

05-07-2006, 01:26 PM	#6
DRIFTER-M -yes, yes I am sideways- Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 896	Pros -Looks sweet -can run wider wheels -looks sweet Cons -You have to have wide wheels that fill it out or else it just looks stupid -expensive for the wheels -remember, you will be wider. If this is a daily car too, it may be harder to park and stuff depending on how wide you go.

05-07-2006, 06:23 PM	#7
brainfood Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 667	Are 50mm overfenders 50mm wider on each side? Making the car 100mm overall or is 50mm the overall size of the car?

05-07-2006, 06:42 PM	#8
dreamdrivedrift Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MD Posts: 310	thats correct brainfood

05-08-2006, 01:01 PM	#10
dreamdrivedrift Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MD Posts: 310	no, 50 mm wider each side, so 100 mm wider overall.

05-09-2006, 05:18 PM	#14
Octagon Circle Track Guy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio. Posts: 324	Widebodies are also intended for if you change around suspension pick-up points. A lot of times, racers will widen a frame or use a new k-member in order to move the control arm pick-up points out further from the centreline of the car. This will be in concert, often, with raising the frame/k-member in the body in order to drop the overall ride height (sometimes called "channeling") and/or drop spindles, tubular a-arms of varied lengths, and many other significant suspension geometry changes. Sometimes, even, the widebody over-fenders or "fenderboxes" as the old-schoolers call 'em, housed oil coolers, radiators, intercoolers, or various ducts for venting hot engine bay air out and/or cool air for the brakes in. A good example of this would be anything from the old IMSA GTU ranks, like this S13 driven by Butch Leitzinger.

05-09-2006, 11:48 PM	#15
s15driftking Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kent, Ohio Posts: 78	octagon, thank you for bringing up that excellent point!! good stuff!!! also, brainfood, good point as well, i guess that is true, ebcause its way easier to replace a 200 dollar set of overfenders than re-true a quarter panel

05-10-2006, 02:50 PM	#17
TIREKILLER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78	I started out with 50mm over fenders, but i tweeked them and trimed them to get them smaller. hold them down while you poprivet them on and you can make em as wide as you want really. And yeah i used em cuz my quarter panels were pretty well CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoreded anyway. Much cheaper and faster than real bodywork. Heres a few progress pics of mine. http://dailydrifter.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=117

05-10-2006, 09:08 PM	#18
UNITEDMASTER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ANAHEIM Posts: 310	Helo OCTAGON great pic those were the GLORY DAYS so many memories.The good ol IMSA GTU-GTO and prototype battles. IMO that was the greatest era in motorsports(tears) . BRAINFOOD I got the same prob with my S13 damaged QTR but I think Im gonna fix the stock crap LMK whats up with your whip.

05-11-2006, 06:36 AM	#20
TIREKILLER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78	I measured from the spring out on both sides while i was installing them. I got 13.5 inches to the overfender wich is about an inch wider than where the lip was. Now, my lip was pulled some before the overs so i dont really have a good baseline but that should give you atleast something to work with. A little more detail on my setup for reference. The rear wheels are 18x10 +24 with no spacers. Tire is a 235/40. The rear was aligned to -1.5 camber with the old wheels (17x7.5 +27 ) and has not been realigned yet.

05-11-2006, 09:10 AM	#22
TIREKILLER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78	No, I wouldnt say they were flush with the overs, im gonna run a spacer once i switch up to a 255-265/35 tire. Without the overs these were slightly mexi-flush i prolly could have added some camber to fix it but i wouldnt have been able to go to a wider tire. And yeah im MOSTLY S13.

05-17-2006, 07:11 PM	#23
touge sil80 User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3	bodyworking metal sucks, body working fiberglass is torture. i work on classic vettes, i think i'm gonna stick with metal. plus plastic fender flares bring a classic jdm feel to early 90's cars IMHO

06-10-2006, 07:57 PM	#24
s13/350z Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 377	im late, but a wide body that is wind tunnel tested will give you more downforce and allow for wider wheels and hiding more objects in the wider body(IE relocating oil coolers, radiators, etc.). For a street car its just for cool points, or hater points. For REAL race cars it is beneficial, for all these street cars, there is no point of wasting your time and money when it could be spent on better things (unless you are doing it to a show car).