4age ---> 240

GotPhoRPS13 · 02-22-2004, 04:34 PM

Would you swap a 4age into a 89 240sx i was thinking of it and i was wondering what are the benefits or anything like pros and cons thx if any one replys.

02-22-2004, 05:39 PM

if you ever have driven a 4ag powerd car you'll know why this is a bad idea. the 4ag is one torquelss wonder motor..and the S13/S14 chassy is a lot heavier than an AE86 chassy...so the preformance will suck..motor swaps are not needed for drifting....but if you really want to do one..that is diffrent than everyone else...drop the S2K motor into an S13...

Hardluck · 02-22-2004, 06:29 PM

That'd be awesome. I know someone already dropped an S2k motor into an AE86, but dropping one into an S13! Wow. Funny.

panda_3ight_6 · 02-22-2004, 07:03 PM

Chassis is spelled with no y

The idea of the swap is kinda stupid seeing that the 4-ag is very low on power, It is a great motor when built correctly but it still cant compare in power to the CA18 or SR20, Possibly a well built 7-AGET(20V head, on 7-A block with turbo) would make the power of a CA18 but they are still not nearly as cheap.

The (P)S13 Chassis as said earlier is quite a bit heftier then the AE86(88) chassis, also the gear box, rear diff would not fit the 4-AG.

The SR20 or CA18 are both very well built strong engines that with enough love and care will put out much more then 300hp, The best built 4-AG(e) makes prolbly a little less then 300hp...

GotPhoRPS13 · 02-22-2004, 07:52 PM

thx for the input i was really thinking of actually doing it i was just wondering about it.

aphxero · 02-22-2004, 08:29 PM

wow. 4ag-240 is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. wow.

wanna be different? Try out a VG30 turbo.

_uG TM · 02-22-2004, 08:57 PM

you will have the slowest s13 ever. All bark no bite.

Chas · 02-23-2004, 08:56 PM

Maybe try C30

Chas · 02-23-2004, 08:56 PM

Maybe try C30

nissanguy_24 · 02-23-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotPhoRPS13
Would you swap a 4age into a 89 240sx i was thinking of it and i was wondering what are the benefits or anything like pros and cons thx if any one replys.

any ricers who think initial D defines sport compacts will love it. I would hate it. and it would be slow. think 18-20 seconds in the quarter mile. it wouldhave a much worse power to weight ratio then the already under powered AE86

for the record i love initial D.

Jsin · 02-23-2004, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hardluck
That'd be awesome. I know someone already dropped an S2k motor into an AE86, but dropping one into an S13! Wow. Funny.

got pics to prove it id def like to see that

MA70SIDEOPTION · 02-23-2004, 10:00 PM

whats going on to all the people on the drifting forms I have been coming to this site for some time now and I have noticed that most of the people all they talk about is the 3 most baisc drift cars which are the ae,s13,180sx.I got a 89 supra turbo and I can get that sideways no problem not for someone to say that the other 3 cars a better because they are light .I think thats bull becuse regardless of the weight if you got enough skill you could get any RWD car sideways.my main speel is that dont diss the cars that are the true drifters MA70(86-92 supra),Scoarer(sc300)

nissanguy_24 · 02-23-2004, 10:04 PM

If you wanted to do something along this lines try a 13b swap. with a turbo. that would be interesting.

Ghost of Duluth · 02-23-2004, 10:15 PM

Ma70 you aint been coming to this site if you think that. There have been NUMOROUS threads about other cars. Use the search button.

Also if you think those are the "True drifters" you are sadly mistaken. Yes those are very competant drift chassis' but the most widely used chassis is the s-13, the corolla is up there too as well as the FC.

You sure you were coming to this site?

Chas · 02-23-2004, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jsin
got pics to prove it id def like to see that

IT had the S2 guage display to.

nissanguy_24 · 02-23-2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MA70SIDEOPTION
whats going on to all the people on the drifting forms I have been coming to this site for some time now and I have noticed that most of the people all they talk about is the 3 most baisc drift cars which are the ae,s13,180sx.I got a 89 supra turbo and I can get that sideways no problem not for someone to say that the other 3 cars a better because they are light .I think thats bull becuse regardless of the weight if you got enough skill you could get any RWD car sideways.my main speel is that dont diss the cars that are the true drifters MA70(86-92 supra),Scoarer(sc300)

True drifters? i scoff at thee.

Both of those vehichles are heavy. No one said they cant drift because of it. But i would choose the lighter S13 over them easy.

It seems like you are argueing against an invisible opponent who has insulted your car.

Tell me what makes your car a true drifter and mine not?

02-24-2004, 01:19 AM

don't want to make you feel bad, but there are numerous reasons why the S chassis is preffered over the cars you listed.

I hope you know that the MA70 Supra is heavier than the last gen (JZA80) Supra, which is no lightweight either.

Hardluck · 02-25-2004, 10:26 AM

JSin, here's the link to the S2k AE86.

Club 4AG - The S2k AE86

It's pretty freakin' cool.

02-22-2004, 04:34 PM	#1
GotPhoRPS13 Powered By: Pho Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 89	4age ---> 240 Would you swap a 4age into a 89 240sx i was thinking of it and i was wondering what are the benefits or anything like pros and cons thx if any one replys.

02-23-2004, 10:00 PM	#12
MA70SIDEOPTION Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3	WHY IS THE Ae,s13,180sx the only drift cars in the US whats going on to all the people on the drifting forms I have been coming to this site for some time now and I have noticed that most of the people all they talk about is the 3 most baisc drift cars which are the ae,s13,180sx.I got a 89 supra turbo and I can get that sideways no problem not for someone to say that the other 3 cars a better because they are light .I think thats bull becuse regardless of the weight if you got enough skill you could get any RWD car sideways.my main speel is that dont diss the cars that are the true drifters MA70(86-92 supra),Scoarer(sc300)

02-23-2004, 10:15 PM	#14
Ghost of Duluth Sixgun Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 2,280	Ma70 you aint been coming to this site if you think that. There have been NUMOROUS threads about other cars. Use the search button. Also if you think those are the "True drifters" you are sadly mistaken. Yes those are very competant drift chassis' but the most widely used chassis is the s-13, the corolla is up there too as well as the FC. You sure you were coming to this site? __________________ Team SIXGUN, Don't whine about the food chain, be the top of it. Tokyo Pimps, Godzilla is coming. Lorin, oh Lorin, where have you gone?? If you're in the stands warming the bench, don't whine about the guys in the drivers seats.

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02-22-2004, 05:39 PM	#2
driftfreak Guest Posts: n/a	if you ever have driven a 4ag powerd car you'll know why this is a bad idea. the 4ag is one torquelss wonder motor..and the S13/S14 chassy is a lot heavier than an AE86 chassy...so the preformance will suck..motor swaps are not needed for drifting....but if you really want to do one..that is diffrent than everyone else...drop the S2K motor into an S13...

02-22-2004, 06:29 PM	#3
Hardluck Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 31	That'd be awesome. I know someone already dropped an S2k motor into an AE86, but dropping one into an S13! Wow. Funny.

02-22-2004, 07:03 PM	#4
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	Chassis is spelled with no y The idea of the swap is kinda stupid seeing that the 4-ag is very low on power, It is a great motor when built correctly but it still cant compare in power to the CA18 or SR20, Possibly a well built 7-AGET(20V head, on 7-A block with turbo) would make the power of a CA18 but they are still not nearly as cheap. The (P)S13 Chassis as said earlier is quite a bit heftier then the AE86(88) chassis, also the gear box, rear diff would not fit the 4-AG. The SR20 or CA18 are both very well built strong engines that with enough love and care will put out much more then 300hp, The best built 4-AG(e) makes prolbly a little less then 300hp...

02-22-2004, 07:52 PM	#5
GotPhoRPS13 Powered By: Pho Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 89	thx for the input i was really thinking of actually doing it i was just wondering about it.

02-22-2004, 08:29 PM	#6
aphxero Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 138	wow. 4ag-240 is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. wow. wanna be different? Try out a VG30 turbo.

02-22-2004, 08:57 PM	#7
_uG TM Touge only. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: portland Posts: 261	you will have the slowest s13 ever. All bark no bite.

02-23-2004, 08:56 PM	#8
Chas Guest Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,566	Maybe try C30

02-23-2004, 10:04 PM	#13
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	If you wanted to do something along this lines try a 13b swap. with a turbo. that would be interesting.

02-24-2004, 01:19 AM	#17
____ Guest Posts: n/a	don't want to make you feel bad, but there are numerous reasons why the S chassis is preffered over the cars you listed. I hope you know that the MA70 Supra is heavier than the last gen (JZA80) Supra, which is no lightweight either.

02-25-2004, 10:26 AM	#18
Hardluck Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 31	JSin, here's the link to the S2k AE86. Club 4AG - The S2k AE86 It's pretty freakin' cool.