Rebuild the Rotary or Swap for Drifting?

Linguo415 · 02-11-2011, 11:47 AM

Hello. I have a S5 T2 that need to be rebuilt. I love rotaries and want to start with a relatively lower powered car. It will cost about 5k with new Rotor housings oem seals and a huge oil mod. then I would get fuel management. Some other mods and then I want to go and get sideways. Anyway there is no guarenty that the engine will last under drift application and driving it to and from the events.

Here is the alternative i am thinking about.For a liittle more i can put in a 1 or 2jzgte. These engines are really strong from the factory. The cars behavior would change but i can learn to manage i suppose. This is the only swap i will consider. Even talking like this is taboo in the rotoary world. Im not much of a purist but i wouldnt usualy think about swaping a rotary out vs in. My mo is the drift. i want to get good at it and want it to last. 5k is a lot to spend for me. idk about you guys but im not rich. Lol

Any advice or suggestions would be great. Thanks guys.

Cavi Mike · 02-11-2011, 02:37 PM

Why is that the "only engine you will consider?" That just makes you sound ignorant. The engine is far too long, way too heavy and would require WAY more than your budgeted $5G to make work. And if you want to "get good at" drifting, you should already be deep in the learning curve by now. Power doesn't give you skill. In fact, it's the very opposite.

Bebop · 02-11-2011, 06:51 PM

Keep the brotary.... they are the funnest most easy motors to build other then air cooled VWs.

INFO · 02-11-2011, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguo415

Hello. I have a S5 T2 that need to be rebuilt. I love rotaries and want to start with a relatively lower powered car. It will cost about 5k with new Rotor housings oem seals and a huge oil mod. then I would get fuel management. Some other mods and then I want to go and get sideways. Anyway there is no guarenty that the engine will last under drift application and driving it to and from the events.

Here is the alternative i am thinking about.For a liittle more i can put in a 1 or 2jzgte. These engines are really strong from the factory. The cars behavior would change but i can learn to manage i suppose. This is the only swap i will consider. Even talking like this is taboo in the rotoary world. Im not much of a purist but i wouldnt usualy think about swaping a rotary out vs in. My mo is the drift. i want to get good at it and want this to last. 5k is a lot to spend for me. idk about you guys but im not rich. Lol

Any advice or suggestions would be great. Thanks guys.

We produced this DVD

http://store.driftingshop.com/2jzrxfdswdvd.html

INFO · 02-11-2011, 07:00 PM

Budget Reference

240SX 1JZ/2JZ Swap

2JZ/1JZ SWAP PARTS LIST
2JZGTE MOTOR includes shipping & 6 month warrenty $2600
Transmission parts to piece together a r154 US Spec transmission from Toyota Supra Turbo 1989 to 1992
1JZ Bell housing $375
1JZ flywheel $275
ACT clutch kit 650 FT torque 6 puck (option for our install) $700
SHIFTER EXTENSION PLUS CORE $250 + $200
2JZ SWAP KIT PLUS CORE $1500 +$200
2JZ PLUG N PLAY WIRING $450
CLUTCH LINE SS KIT $120
FUEL LINE KIT $130
A/C KIT (option for our install) $750
THROTTLE CABLE BTACKET $45
JDM 2JZ 3inch DOWN PIPE ADAPTER $100
WATER PUMP $150
TIMING BELT $28
SERPENTINE BELT $30 UNIVERSAL SPEEDOMETER INTERFACE $79.95
UNIVERSAL TACHOMETER INTERFACE $79.99
WALBRO FUEL PUMP $100
KOYO RADIATOR WITH UPPER INLET MODDED $450
SPAL FANS $200
FAN CONTROLLER $100
2JZ 4IN INTERCOOLER KIT $650
PULLEY SET W/P,P/S,ALT $135
MISC. PARTS HEATER HOSES, RAD HOSES, CLAMPS $275

Cavi Mike · 02-11-2011, 08:11 PM

Ugh. Figures.

Linguo415 · 02-11-2011, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaze1

Keep the brotary.... they are the funnest most easy motors to build other then air cooled VWs.

Hahaha. Brotary. i really want to but im just affraid of it blowing up sooner than later. i know its all about the tuning and set up. I dont think ill boost it much.

Linguo415 · 02-11-2011, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavi Mike

Why is that the "only engine you will consider?" That just makes you sound ignorant. The engine is far too long, way too heavy and would require WAY more than your budgeted $5G to make work. And if you want to "get good at" drifting, you should already be deep in the learning curve by now. Power doesn't give you skill. In fact, it's the very opposite.

I know power doesnt give you skill. Im after longevity. thanks for the ignorant comment. Nice. what do you recomend?

Bebop · 02-11-2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguo415

Hahaha. Brotary. i really want to but im just affraid of it blowing up sooner than later. i know its all about the tuning and set up. I dont think ill boost it much.

Man up, read a book, look up some data. You will find out that the 13B if built and tuned properly is just as reliable as any other 90s Japanese 4/6 cyclinder.

Linguo415 · 02-11-2011, 08:50 PM

^ Bro ive done sooo much research already. No joke. for the last year and ahalf or so. Lol They are great engines and I love them! Im just trying to see what my option are right now. Im not into V8s either. the 1j or 2j are really strong and last a real long time. Its the best Japan made engine.
It wont be an Rx though. Thats the soul of these cars its engine. Its what makes them one of a kind so to speek.

INFO · 02-11-2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaze1

Man up, read a book, look up some data. You will find out that the 13B if built and tuned properly is just as reliable as any other 90s Japanese 4/6 cyclinder.

We also produced a Rotary Rebuild DVD with Formula D driver Kyle Mohan from Mazdatrix.

http://store.driftingshop.com/ma13broentdv.html

INFO · 02-11-2011, 09:23 PM

would you swap in the motor yourself?

Linguo415 · 02-11-2011, 09:30 PM

^Um im thinking yes. with help. Otherwise I have someone that wont charge a ton to do it.

Cavi Mike · 02-12-2011, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguo415

I know power doesnt give you skill. Im after longevity. thanks for the ignorant comment. Nice. what do you recomend?

Rotaries have no problem with longevity as long as the owner has some intelligence.

Linguo415 · 02-13-2011, 01:32 AM

^ Goood atleast you didnt say v8. lol

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mazdized · 02-13-2011, 01:41 PM

If your budget is $5 then stick with 13B. If you are happy with 300ish whp beat it all day no worries at all then stick with the 13B. But if you are looking at 400+ or may be high 400s and still keep the car light then LSX V8 is the way to go.

02-11-2011, 11:47 AM	#1
Linguo415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 124	Rebuild the Rotary or Swap for Drifting? Hello. I have a S5 T2 that need to be rebuilt. I love rotaries and want to start with a relatively lower powered car. It will cost about 5k with new Rotor housings oem seals and a huge oil mod. then I would get fuel management. Some other mods and then I want to go and get sideways. Anyway there is no guarenty that the engine will last under drift application and driving it to and from the events. Here is the alternative i am thinking about.For a liittle more i can put in a 1 or 2jzgte. These engines are really strong from the factory. The cars behavior would change but i can learn to manage i suppose. This is the only swap i will consider. Even talking like this is taboo in the rotoary world. Im not much of a purist but i wouldnt usualy think about swaping a rotary out vs in. My mo is the drift. i want to get good at it and want it to last. 5k is a lot to spend for me. idk about you guys but im not rich. Lol Any advice or suggestions would be great. Thanks guys. Last edited by Linguo415; 02-11-2011 at 09:03 PM.

02-11-2011, 07:00 PM	#5
INFO Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,964	Budget Reference 240SX 1JZ/2JZ Swap 2JZ/1JZ SWAP PARTS LIST 2JZGTE MOTOR includes shipping & 6 month warrenty $2600 Transmission parts to piece together a r154 US Spec transmission from Toyota Supra Turbo 1989 to 1992 1JZ Bell housing $375 1JZ flywheel $275 ACT clutch kit 650 FT torque 6 puck (option for our install) $700 SHIFTER EXTENSION PLUS CORE $250 + $200 2JZ SWAP KIT PLUS CORE $1500 +$200 2JZ PLUG N PLAY WIRING $450 CLUTCH LINE SS KIT $120 FUEL LINE KIT $130 A/C KIT (option for our install) $750 THROTTLE CABLE BTACKET $45 JDM 2JZ 3inch DOWN PIPE ADAPTER $100 WATER PUMP $150 TIMING BELT $28 SERPENTINE BELT $30 UNIVERSAL SPEEDOMETER INTERFACE $79.95 UNIVERSAL TACHOMETER INTERFACE $79.99 WALBRO FUEL PUMP $100 KOYO RADIATOR WITH UPPER INLET MODDED $450 SPAL FANS $200 FAN CONTROLLER $100 2JZ 4IN INTERCOOLER KIT $650 PULLEY SET W/P,P/S,ALT $135 MISC. PARTS HEATER HOSES, RAD HOSES, CLAMPS $275 __________________ DRIFTING.com @ FACEBOOK DRIFTING.com @ FACEBOOK DRIFTING.com @ TWITTER DRIFTING.com TWITTER DRIFTING.com STORE DRIFTING.com Tel.(877) 786-7694 The BEST WAY to reach DRIFTING.com is by calling between 11AM-5PM (PACIFIC STANDARD TIME) If you are on the EAST COAST then call at 2PM. If you reach our voicemail then CALL BACK AGAIN between 11AM-5PM (PACIFIC STANDARD TIME)

02-11-2011, 09:23 PM	#12
INFO Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,964	would you swap in the motor yourself? __________________ DRIFTING.com @ FACEBOOK DRIFTING.com @ FACEBOOK DRIFTING.com @ TWITTER DRIFTING.com TWITTER DRIFTING.com STORE DRIFTING.com Tel.(877) 786-7694 The BEST WAY to reach DRIFTING.com is by calling between 11AM-5PM (PACIFIC STANDARD TIME) If you are on the EAST COAST then call at 2PM. If you reach our voicemail then CALL BACK AGAIN between 11AM-5PM (PACIFIC STANDARD TIME)

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02-11-2011, 02:37 PM	#2
Cavi Mike Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 496	Why is that the "only engine you will consider?" That just makes you sound ignorant. The engine is far too long, way too heavy and would require WAY more than your budgeted $5G to make work. And if you want to "get good at" drifting, you should already be deep in the learning curve by now. Power doesn't give you skill. In fact, it's the very opposite.

02-11-2011, 06:51 PM	#3
Bebop Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 951 Posts: 2,485	Keep the brotary.... they are the funnest most easy motors to build other then air cooled VWs.

02-11-2011, 08:11 PM	#6
Cavi Mike Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 496	Ugh. Figures.

02-11-2011, 08:50 PM	#10
Linguo415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 124	^ Bro ive done sooo much research already. No joke. for the last year and ahalf or so. Lol They are great engines and I love them! Im just trying to see what my option are right now. Im not into V8s either. the 1j or 2j are really strong and last a real long time. Its the best Japan made engine. It wont be an Rx though. Thats the soul of these cars its engine. Its what makes them one of a kind so to speek.

02-11-2011, 09:30 PM	#13
Linguo415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 124	^Um im thinking yes. with help. Otherwise I have someone that wont charge a ton to do it.

02-13-2011, 01:32 AM	#15
Linguo415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 124	^ Goood atleast you didnt say v8. lol i

02-13-2011, 01:41 PM	#16
mazdized Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10	If your budget is $5 then stick with 13B. If you are happy with 300ish whp beat it all day no worries at all then stick with the 13B. But if you are looking at 400+ or may be high 400s and still keep the car light then LSX V8 is the way to go.