quick abs question

anonomousdrift · 03-23-2004, 04:41 PM

i was wondering if it is possible to install ABS on a car, or is it even necessary for drifting. The reason i ask this is because i am in the process of purchasing a 89 240sx and i know that some of them do not have ABS, so i was wondering if it is possible to install ABS. I'm pretty sure that this is a noob question, so dont hammer me too hard.

anonomousdrift · 03-23-2004, 10:43 PM

anyone?

banged240_drift · 03-23-2004, 10:58 PM

so you know that the car has no abs?
im pretty sure they all came with abs, maybe they said no abs bacause they disabled it?
if yo know better thoguh than just ignore that

Drift For Food · 03-24-2004, 02:00 PM

I assume you'd be "able" to install an abs system in any car. I've never looked for any abs kits though. I'm sure something exists. I just don't know how cheap or easy it would be do put one in. You would probably be able to get an abs system out of an '89 240sx if yours doesn't have one, say it was an upgrade option back then. It would be a direct fit as well, cheap if you can get it out of a junkyard. You'd just have to install and wire it up(whatever is needed to do that).

Personally, I don't like abs. I like to lock up the tires if I want too. Then again, I learned without it. I've driven cars with the first gen abs stuff, heavy pulsing, really weird feeling. The newer stuff doesn't seem to have that feel. Still, I'd prefer without. My friend has a '97 Intrepid with abs. On gravel he can't stop fast cause the abs wants too keep the tires moving too much. I don't think the old technology was all that great. I just don't like a computer controlling how I brake.

If it was me, I would hope that it didn't come with abs or I'd take out the fuse if it did. Learn to control the brakes. It's pretty simple. You just need to learn when the tires begin to lock up. In time, you'll be able to control it better than any abs system. That's just my 2 cents.

banged240_drift · 03-24-2004, 02:26 PM

wow im going to swallow my foot for this one
for some odd reason i thought you were asking about power steering...... i guess it was pretty late that i was on..or maybe im an idiot
yeah mine doesnt have abs and i liek it that way
but then again i still have no idea if you can install it or not....sorry
ide imagine you could though

Drift For Food · 03-24-2004, 04:34 PM

If it makes you feel better, my truck doesn't have power steering, lol.

panda_3ight_6 · 03-24-2004, 04:45 PM

ABS, is for your grandma driving to work on a febuary morning. Its never needed for a good driver with eyes, the fairy tales told by auto makers is to just get you to buy the ABS systems.

nissanguy_24 · 03-24-2004, 05:08 PM

Im going to summerize what Dave coleman from sport compact car has said, Hes there engineering editor, Owner of there project silvia and a big nissan fan. Very smart guy... Modern ABS is very good. So much so that the worse braking distance in the first Ultimate street car challange was a 510, the lightest car there. All the rest used modern ABS Systems. However ABS from the era of the S13 isnt very good. Any good driver could beat it.

Breaking is a skill, a nessiarly one, especialy for things like the braking drift.

as to installing it, im sure swapping out the parts of a ABS equipped car and maybe the ecu will work. BUt most drifters dont use it, and most dont need it.

JunpoweR · 03-25-2004, 04:49 AM

ABS

Well I have ABS on my 1990 TURBO II and Im about to remove it..
I would tell you it's a pain to install but if you don;t mind the work and trouble also making your engine bay smaller..Do it
Well IMO
I would take it out..
I am HUMAN ABS =)

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anonomousdrift Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 48	quick abs question i was wondering if it is possible to install ABS on a car, or is it even necessary for drifting. The reason i ask this is because i am in the process of purchasing a 89 240sx and i know that some of them do not have ABS, so i was wondering if it is possible to install ABS. I'm pretty sure that this is a noob question, so dont hammer me too hard.

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03-23-2004, 10:43 PM	#2
anonomousdrift Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 48	anyone?

03-23-2004, 10:58 PM	#3
banged240_drift Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: dallas/ft.worth Posts: 260	so you know that the car has no abs? im pretty sure they all came with abs, maybe they said no abs bacause they disabled it? if yo know better thoguh than just ignore that

03-24-2004, 02:00 PM	#4
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	I assume you'd be "able" to install an abs system in any car. I've never looked for any abs kits though. I'm sure something exists. I just don't know how cheap or easy it would be do put one in. You would probably be able to get an abs system out of an '89 240sx if yours doesn't have one, say it was an upgrade option back then. It would be a direct fit as well, cheap if you can get it out of a junkyard. You'd just have to install and wire it up(whatever is needed to do that). Personally, I don't like abs. I like to lock up the tires if I want too. Then again, I learned without it. I've driven cars with the first gen abs stuff, heavy pulsing, really weird feeling. The newer stuff doesn't seem to have that feel. Still, I'd prefer without. My friend has a '97 Intrepid with abs. On gravel he can't stop fast cause the abs wants too keep the tires moving too much. I don't think the old technology was all that great. I just don't like a computer controlling how I brake. If it was me, I would hope that it didn't come with abs or I'd take out the fuse if it did. Learn to control the brakes. It's pretty simple. You just need to learn when the tires begin to lock up. In time, you'll be able to control it better than any abs system. That's just my 2 cents.

03-24-2004, 02:26 PM	#5
banged240_drift Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: dallas/ft.worth Posts: 260	wow im going to swallow my foot for this one for some odd reason i thought you were asking about power steering...... i guess it was pretty late that i was on..or maybe im an idiot yeah mine doesnt have abs and i liek it that way but then again i still have no idea if you can install it or not....sorry ide imagine you could though

03-24-2004, 04:34 PM	#6
Drift For Food OMG the ground's white! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 676	If it makes you feel better, my truck doesn't have power steering, lol.

03-24-2004, 04:45 PM	#7
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	ABS, is for your grandma driving to work on a febuary morning. Its never needed for a good driver with eyes, the fairy tales told by auto makers is to just get you to buy the ABS systems.

03-24-2004, 05:08 PM	#8
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	Im going to summerize what Dave coleman from sport compact car has said, Hes there engineering editor, Owner of there project silvia and a big nissan fan. Very smart guy... Modern ABS is very good. So much so that the worse braking distance in the first Ultimate street car challange was a 510, the lightest car there. All the rest used modern ABS Systems. However ABS from the era of the S13 isnt very good. Any good driver could beat it. Breaking is a skill, a nessiarly one, especialy for things like the braking drift. as to installing it, im sure swapping out the parts of a ABS equipped car and maybe the ecu will work. BUt most drifters dont use it, and most dont need it.

03-25-2004, 04:49 AM	#9
JunpoweR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ~San~Francisco~415~510~ Posts: 434	ABS Well I have ABS on my 1990 TURBO II and Im about to remove it.. I would tell you it's a pain to install but if you don;t mind the work and trouble also making your engine bay smaller..Do it Well IMO I would take it out.. I am HUMAN ABS =)