SR20DET Quick Response high power engine..?

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-19-2004, 03:13 PM

....... I have been doing some reasearch and from what I know.... THe stock Sr20 pulls somewhere around 220hp on a stock T25 Turbo.......... I saw on a thread some turbos that are good for the SR20......... One that Caught my eye was the GT T25 Ball bearing turbo because its a quick response turbo but its not as big and powerful as the opposed GT T28.......... I had also been looking around at stroker kits...... The APEX stroker kit I was looking into increases the displacement by .2 litres..... so then the engine would be an SR22............ I know lengthening the strokes would increase the displacement and increace power but from what I know you can also increase displacement by boring down the cylinders and replacing the pistons................ and SO to my quesion................ would it be a good Idea to put the stroker kit and bore down the cylinders?....... my reasoning for this is.... I want a quick response system, and from what I know I dont really need a high RPM because the SR20 maintains a good torque range somewhere around 6.500 rpms............. Help me

ankyle62 · 06-19-2004, 07:03 PM

ricer dream...no you dont need any of that stuff.

Weapon X · 06-19-2004, 07:13 PM

What would you be building this motor for? Drag, drift, roadrace, touge?

Also, I think those stroker kits go for about 5 grand.

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-20-2004, 11:15 AM

I want to build it for togue and drift because thats where the quick response wouild shine........... and the stroker kit I looked at , it was like 2-3k............

Weapon X · 06-20-2004, 12:56 PM

What other mods have you done to your car?

Also, if you're just getting into drifting you should put more of your time and energy into driving your car and getting a feel for it especially during oversteer conditions.

ankyle62 · 06-20-2004, 12:57 PM

unless you can pull copius amounts of cash out of your butt, i would suggest not getting it. and even if you could i still dont see a reason you need it. i am pretty sure your driving skill level is not up to par to need the extra power and response and i think you should start with the basics first. but i could be wrong.

lady_drift86 · 06-20-2004, 01:20 PM

wow, that is a lot of money. are nissan parts hella expensive always? $2k for a stroker seems a bit much. thats like a whole new engine. or my whole car. hahaha.

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-20-2004, 06:33 PM

So your saying...... I dont really need any of that stuff?..... staying at 220 is fine?........... I have 5 lug conversion , suspension and brakes.... and im riding on some advan super 2's... so I guess I can pull a wad of cash out of my *Censored**Censored**Censored* =)

CRASHDRIVE · 06-20-2004, 08:53 PM

HOw old are you? how long have you been driving (just basic driving) and what kind of racing experience have you done? Just wondering.

If you could answer those questions, we could get a good idea what you level of experience is.

Im thinking of an age and experience right now, but im not going to assume that.

Thanks.

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-21-2004, 09:30 PM

Im just asking a simple tech question....... I just wondering......................... but ya I can see that you dotn need power for drifting but when I go togue........ I mean my goal is somewhere around 400hp................

marshun · 06-22-2004, 12:49 PM

none of these guys understand when you say "response".

dont get the stroker kit cause it will drop the response some. since you said youre going for response then boring it over will be better.

nissanguy_24 · 06-22-2004, 01:59 PM

You may want to try out the KA24 with a turbo kit. You seems to want a large amount of power and decent response. A properly sized turbo on a KA may be the way to go. And its a hell of alot cheaper then stroking a SR. Also a SR stroker kit would give you a completely new near bullet proof bottom end But still starting with 2.4 liters is going to help you better, unless you have a specific reason for wantig a SR to stroke.

And nisan parts really arent that expensive, but rare japanese stroker kits for the SR that include a completely new bottom end is always expensive for these motors.

Boro86driver · 06-22-2004, 11:10 PM

i'd go with trowing a GT 25 in there... that is a sweet turbo... i have wet dreams about it. since you have a really good motor to drive it... you can get one sized exactly right for your aplication and have basicly no lag and tons of power. and i don't know if you've ever driven a 400HP car, or even a 300HP one, but i have you have a really skilled right foot to control all that. i think when you get power like that (400HP) driving the car becomes more of an exercise in panic managment than enjoyable driving. oh, and superior driver skill and proper car balance will always beat out the superior powered cars... which is why you see RWD corollas beat AWD ABS R34s in the touge. and no its not from a cartoon.

ankyle62 · 06-23-2004, 03:31 PM

why do you need 400hp for "togue" or should i say the street? this still falls under ricer dream, but with a side of "i have too much money and dont know what to do with it"

Boro86driver · 06-23-2004, 03:44 PM

well at least he upgraded the important stuff first. unless by suspension he means cut a coil out. or air bagged it

Weapon X · 06-23-2004, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ankyle62
why do you need 400hp for "togue" or should i say the street? this still falls under ricer dream, but with a side of "i have too much money and dont know what to do with it"

You sure throw out the word ricer alot. I wish I had too much money and didnt know what to do with it but I'm a broke college student.

ankyle62 · 06-23-2004, 04:36 PM

i use the term ricer dream refering to the kids that go "i need 400+ horsepower!!! i dont know why but i do!"

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-23-2004, 07:57 PM

well lets see the reason I want the SR is because Ive heard its more stable then teh standard KA....... and now that I think about it you were right when you said if oyu want a bigger displacement to begin with start with the ka instead of an SR....... and no I did not put airbags ( what kind of *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* would deface a nissan like that)..... I got some coil over suspension that I set close to stock ride height because Ive been I guess oyu can saying "copying" the S13 rebuild on Sportcompactcar.com...... yeah I was thinking about the GT25R....... its pretty cheap too !... its less than 2k and its a bolt on so hellz yeah.......... thnx a lot guys you guys really helpedme.....

nissanguy_24 · 06-23-2004, 08:03 PM

The Sport Compact car Project Silvia is an awesome machine and they run a GT28RS. not a GT25R, Also check the turbo install issue, its bolt up and the turbo its self is about 1200 bucks from JWT, However look at the price of all the little stuff they had to do to make it all run. That said theres is an awesome well balanced vehichle. But it takes slightly more then slapping on a new turbo and going.

bboyt3nsk · 06-27-2004, 09:24 AM

what about trying to mod the valvetrain....thatll free up some powuh....like cams valvesprings retainers....thatll get you some response and a flywheel!

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-27-2004, 12:58 PM

yeah my bro was telling me about taht...... thnx tahts a good idea

Boro86driver · 06-27-2004, 05:04 PM

ok, can i ask you a few questions? you seem intelligent... what are you doing this for? do you want a drift car? do you want to drift? if your looking for drifting skill, hopefully i can give you some advice. its not the car. i can drift my AE86 quite easy when it had a dyno proven 86hp. yes i said 86 hp. you don't need big power to drift at all, it actually makes you cheat and masks poor technique. if you want to be good, look in the mirror, not to your car. you need to just buy tons of tires, track time, gas, and go get it done. drive the car the way you have it, it sounds good. don't worry about all that power, because when you learn to drive well you can smoke someone with twice the power. and that feels good. then you can increase your power so your not only winning the turns, but the straights to. if the car magazines spent all thier time talking about what really matters no one would read them. the driver is all that really matters.
but if you just want a cool car, good luck to you

ankyle62 · 06-27-2004, 09:20 PM

i agree with boro86

UNST0PPABL3 · 06-28-2004, 04:22 PM

yea im going for drift.... and one day D1 ( pshh doesn't everyone dream of that).................... you know , your right.......... I was just curious ..................... well time for me to go back to the parking lot.......

06-19-2004, 03:13 PM	#1
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	SR20DET Quick Response high power engine..? ....... I have been doing some reasearch and from what I know.... THe stock Sr20 pulls somewhere around 220hp on a stock T25 Turbo.......... I saw on a thread some turbos that are good for the SR20......... One that Caught my eye was the GT T25 Ball bearing turbo because its a quick response turbo but its not as big and powerful as the opposed GT T28.......... I had also been looking around at stroker kits...... The APEX stroker kit I was looking into increases the displacement by .2 litres..... so then the engine would be an SR22............ I know lengthening the strokes would increase the displacement and increace power but from what I know you can also increase displacement by boring down the cylinders and replacing the pistons................ and SO to my quesion................ would it be a good Idea to put the stroker kit and bore down the cylinders?....... my reasoning for this is.... I want a quick response system, and from what I know I dont really need a high RPM because the SR20 maintains a good torque range somewhere around 6.500 rpms............. Help me

06-22-2004, 11:10 PM	#13
Boro86driver Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 33	i'd go with trowing a GT 25 in there... that is a sweet turbo... i have wet dreams about it. since you have a really good motor to drive it... you can get one sized exactly right for your aplication and have basicly no lag and tons of power. and i don't know if you've ever driven a 400HP car, or even a 300HP one, but i have you have a really skilled right foot to control all that. i think when you get power like that (400HP) driving the car becomes more of an exercise in panic managment than enjoyable driving. oh, and superior driver skill and proper car balance will always beat out the superior powered cars... which is why you see RWD corollas beat AWD ABS R34s in the touge. and no its not from a cartoon. Last edited by Boro86driver; 06-23-2004 at 03:41 PM.

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bboyt3nsk Dinosuars=Jesus Horses Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ohio(Orlando) Posts: 162	Cams what about trying to mod the valvetrain....thatll free up some powuh....like cams valvesprings retainers....thatll get you some response and a flywheel!

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06-19-2004, 07:03 PM	#2
ankyle62 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 22	ricer dream...no you dont need any of that stuff.

06-19-2004, 07:13 PM	#3
Weapon X SHINJIRO Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twilight Posts: 796	What would you be building this motor for? Drag, drift, roadrace, touge? Also, I think those stroker kits go for about 5 grand.

06-20-2004, 11:15 AM	#4
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	I want to build it for togue and drift because thats where the quick response wouild shine........... and the stroker kit I looked at , it was like 2-3k............

06-20-2004, 12:56 PM	#5
Weapon X SHINJIRO Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twilight Posts: 796	What other mods have you done to your car? Also, if you're just getting into drifting you should put more of your time and energy into driving your car and getting a feel for it especially during oversteer conditions.

06-20-2004, 12:57 PM	#6
ankyle62 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 22	unless you can pull copius amounts of cash out of your butt, i would suggest not getting it. and even if you could i still dont see a reason you need it. i am pretty sure your driving skill level is not up to par to need the extra power and response and i think you should start with the basics first. but i could be wrong.

06-20-2004, 01:20 PM	#7
lady_drift86 Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburg, CA Posts: 8	wow, that is a lot of money. are nissan parts hella expensive always? $2k for a stroker seems a bit much. thats like a whole new engine. or my whole car. hahaha.

06-20-2004, 06:33 PM	#8
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	So your saying...... I dont really need any of that stuff?..... staying at 220 is fine?........... I have 5 lug conversion , suspension and brakes.... and im riding on some advan super 2's... so I guess I can pull a wad of cash out of my CensoredCensoredCensored =)

06-20-2004, 08:53 PM	#9
CRASHDRIVE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 937	HOw old are you? how long have you been driving (just basic driving) and what kind of racing experience have you done? Just wondering. If you could answer those questions, we could get a good idea what you level of experience is. Im thinking of an age and experience right now, but im not going to assume that. Thanks.

06-21-2004, 09:30 PM	#10
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	Im just asking a simple tech question....... I just wondering......................... but ya I can see that you dotn need power for drifting but when I go togue........ I mean my goal is somewhere around 400hp................

06-22-2004, 12:49 PM	#11
marshun stop spreading disinfo Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 554	none of these guys understand when you say "response". dont get the stroker kit cause it will drop the response some. since you said youre going for response then boring it over will be better.

06-22-2004, 01:59 PM	#12
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	You may want to try out the KA24 with a turbo kit. You seems to want a large amount of power and decent response. A properly sized turbo on a KA may be the way to go. And its a hell of alot cheaper then stroking a SR. Also a SR stroker kit would give you a completely new near bullet proof bottom end But still starting with 2.4 liters is going to help you better, unless you have a specific reason for wantig a SR to stroke. And nisan parts really arent that expensive, but rare japanese stroker kits for the SR that include a completely new bottom end is always expensive for these motors.

06-23-2004, 03:31 PM	#14
ankyle62 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 22	why do you need 400hp for "togue" or should i say the street? this still falls under ricer dream, but with a side of "i have too much money and dont know what to do with it"

06-23-2004, 03:44 PM	#15
Boro86driver Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 33	well at least he upgraded the important stuff first. unless by suspension he means cut a coil out. or air bagged it

06-23-2004, 04:36 PM	#17
ankyle62 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 22	i use the term ricer dream refering to the kids that go "i need 400+ horsepower!!! i dont know why but i do!"

06-23-2004, 07:57 PM	#18
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	well lets see the reason I want the SR is because Ive heard its more stable then teh standard KA....... and now that I think about it you were right when you said if oyu want a bigger displacement to begin with start with the ka instead of an SR....... and no I did not put airbags ( what kind of CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensored would deface a nissan like that)..... I got some coil over suspension that I set close to stock ride height because Ive been I guess oyu can saying "copying" the S13 rebuild on Sportcompactcar.com...... yeah I was thinking about the GT25R....... its pretty cheap too !... its less than 2k and its a bolt on so hellz yeah.......... thnx a lot guys you guys really helpedme.....

06-23-2004, 08:03 PM	#19
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	The Sport Compact car Project Silvia is an awesome machine and they run a GT28RS. not a GT25R, Also check the turbo install issue, its bolt up and the turbo its self is about 1200 bucks from JWT, However look at the price of all the little stuff they had to do to make it all run. That said theres is an awesome well balanced vehichle. But it takes slightly more then slapping on a new turbo and going.

06-27-2004, 12:58 PM	#21
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	yeah my bro was telling me about taht...... thnx tahts a good idea

06-27-2004, 05:04 PM	#22
Boro86driver Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 33	ok, can i ask you a few questions? you seem intelligent... what are you doing this for? do you want a drift car? do you want to drift? if your looking for drifting skill, hopefully i can give you some advice. its not the car. i can drift my AE86 quite easy when it had a dyno proven 86hp. yes i said 86 hp. you don't need big power to drift at all, it actually makes you cheat and masks poor technique. if you want to be good, look in the mirror, not to your car. you need to just buy tons of tires, track time, gas, and go get it done. drive the car the way you have it, it sounds good. don't worry about all that power, because when you learn to drive well you can smoke someone with twice the power. and that feels good. then you can increase your power so your not only winning the turns, but the straights to. if the car magazines spent all thier time talking about what really matters no one would read them. the driver is all that really matters. but if you just want a cool car, good luck to you

06-27-2004, 09:20 PM	#23
ankyle62 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 22	i agree with boro86

06-28-2004, 04:22 PM	#24
UNST0PPABL3 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Torrance Ca Posts: 48	yea im going for drift.... and one day D1 ( pshh doesn't everyone dream of that).................... you know , your right.......... I was just curious ..................... well time for me to go back to the parking lot.......