3S-G swap into an AE86!?

86drifter · 07-13-2004, 06:03 PM

allright you tech heads lets see if one of you can figure this one out. A club K's 86 has a 3S-G in it and still has the FR layout in it! I cant figure out which tranny theyre using if you dont believe me check out the levin/ trueno hyper rev vol. 2 on page 52. I want to figure this out because i have an extra 86 chassis that needs a swap badly thank for the help or ideas guys

For those of you who dont know what a 3S-G is its the motor thats used in japan for the all wheel drive celica and the MR-2

Velvet · 07-13-2004, 06:19 PM

I think there is or was a MR supra powerd 86 in the JGTC. But if your gonna do a awap like that you prolly gonna have to sawp rear axels and driveshaft if you wanna get high horsepower out the 3S-G. But im clueless about the tranny part though. Look for parts from the old RWD Celica.

Oki Drifter · 07-13-2004, 06:29 PM

maybe they've got a NA 3SG from an altezza and are using the altezza's tranny

young gun · 07-14-2004, 08:42 AM

they sell bell housing adapters, after that its just cutting and fabrication. stupid pointless swap unless your dragging

Thai Juku · 07-14-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by young gun
they sell bell housing adapters, after that its just cutting and fabrication. stupid pointless swap unless your dragging

3-SG only for drag? Isn't that a little biased? There are several engines faster than the 3-SGE or 3-SGTE, and they all have the potential to drift...Nonetheless, the 3-SGE/3-SGTE is an amazing engine. Some call it 2/3 of the 2-JZ. Moreover, the JGTC has classes of 300 to 500 hp races...Any engine can drag my friend...My advice to you is not to start flaming right away since you are a newbie after all...

3-SG ka?...Sugoi enjin aitsu da ze...

07-14-2004, 01:22 PM

For all we know that could be a custom tranny. My guess though goes to the Celica All-Trac tranny. They use the 3S-GTE and have a longitudinal tranny. The rear end is probably also from the all-trac, the diff and the axles to the hubs. I'm not too familiar with the rear end off the All-Tracs but I'd assume there'd be a few modifications that would be needed and possibly a custom driveshaft.

Thai Juku · 07-14-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Oki Drifter
maybe they've got a NA 3SG from an altezza and are using the altezza's tranny

This guy got closer than any of you...If anyone objects, I like to hear it...

young gun · 07-15-2004, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Thai Juku
This guy got closer than any of you...If anyone objects, I like to hear it...

thats an option, but not what i was talking,
the power gained is not enough to justify the swap, plus it causes ir-reversable damage to the chasis

mranlet · 07-15-2004, 09:02 AM

Denso Sard Supras (as well as TOM's I believe) ran 3S-GTE's in the JGTC for a number of years with decent success.

No, the power gain isn't enough to justify a swap in stock form, but when the 4AG's power ceiling is around around 250 horse, the 3S-GTE can be made to crank out 500 with the same effort.

RWD trans from a IS200 would work, and there's a bell housing adapter for a Getrag 6-speed as well.

For all the 3S info, go here:
http://members.tripod.com/kaferjca0/3sgteinfo.htm

-MR

OkinawanHCR32 · 07-15-2004, 09:29 AM

A lot of people do swaps to be different, how many people out there have done a swap like this!?

07-13-2004, 06:03 PM	#1
86drifter Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 1	3S-G swap into an AE86!? allright you tech heads lets see if one of you can figure this one out. A club K's 86 has a 3S-G in it and still has the FR layout in it! I cant figure out which tranny theyre using if you dont believe me check out the levin/ trueno hyper rev vol. 2 on page 52. I want to figure this out because i have an extra 86 chassis that needs a swap badly thank for the help or ideas guys For those of you who dont know what a 3S-G is its the motor thats used in japan for the all wheel drive celica and the MR-2

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07-13-2004, 06:19 PM	#2
Velvet I <3 Aiko Tanaka Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 163	I think there is or was a MR supra powerd 86 in the JGTC. But if your gonna do a awap like that you prolly gonna have to sawp rear axels and driveshaft if you wanna get high horsepower out the 3S-G. But im clueless about the tranny part though. Look for parts from the old RWD Celica.

07-13-2004, 06:29 PM	#3
Oki Drifter Uchinanchu Deesu!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Okinawa Posts: 318	maybe they've got a NA 3SG from an altezza and are using the altezza's tranny

07-14-2004, 08:42 AM	#4
young gun Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 60	they sell bell housing adapters, after that its just cutting and fabrication. stupid pointless swap unless your dragging

07-14-2004, 01:22 PM	#6
180fan Guest Posts: n/a	For all we know that could be a custom tranny. My guess though goes to the Celica All-Trac tranny. They use the 3S-GTE and have a longitudinal tranny. The rear end is probably also from the all-trac, the diff and the axles to the hubs. I'm not too familiar with the rear end off the All-Tracs but I'd assume there'd be a few modifications that would be needed and possibly a custom driveshaft.

07-15-2004, 09:02 AM	#9
mranlet Smokes Dynamite Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampa, CT, all over the place! Posts: 1,090	Denso Sard Supras (as well as TOM's I believe) ran 3S-GTE's in the JGTC for a number of years with decent success. No, the power gain isn't enough to justify a swap in stock form, but when the 4AG's power ceiling is around around 250 horse, the 3S-GTE can be made to crank out 500 with the same effort. RWD trans from a IS200 would work, and there's a bell housing adapter for a Getrag 6-speed as well. For all the 3S info, go here: http://members.tripod.com/kaferjca0/3sgteinfo.htm -MR

07-15-2004, 09:29 AM	#10
OkinawanHCR32 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 36	A lot of people do swaps to be different, how many people out there have done a swap like this!?