4-ag

panda_3ight_6 · 11-29-2003, 04:23 PM

Anyone have any? Care to tell me how it runs and what not...

TokyoDrifterxo7 · 11-29-2003, 05:00 PM

your name is panda 86 yet you dont know anything about a 4ag? lol... anyways, yes they run good. Go to www.club4ag.com

Chas · 11-29-2003, 05:03 PM

Depends on the condition.

z33Drifter · 11-30-2003, 10:01 AM

yea thats kina funny he doesnt know much about 4ags considering his name is panda eight six

panda_3ight_6 · 11-30-2003, 02:10 PM

i know enough, but im always looking to learn more, i just wanted some opitaons...and yes i do go to club4ag.com alot...

11-30-2003, 04:59 PM

If you have any specific ques I can try to answer. You can catch me on AIM: aphxero.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-02-2003, 06:05 PM

i have a 4-AC in my SR5... im thinking about when to swap a 4-AGZE in it

ACDSupra7 · 12-02-2003, 06:08 PM

I heard they were a pain is the a$s.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-02-2003, 06:11 PM

4-AC? they are SOHC... i don mind im not a power freak.

ACDSupra7 · 12-02-2003, 06:15 PM

No, 4AGZE.

Chas · 12-02-2003, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panda_3ight_6
i have a 4-AC in my SR5... im thinking about when to swap a 4-AGZE in it

Thats a pretty hard swap. Why not do a dual cam 4ag, and turbo it?

panda_3ight_6 · 12-03-2003, 02:52 PM

i onoo which evers cheaper...

CRASHDRIVE · 12-03-2003, 03:02 PM

You can use a 4A-G with 16valve or 20valve. They're good. But they dont bolt-in directly to your SR5. There's a minor modifaction that needs to be done to your engine bay in order for the 4A-G to fit.

How much $$$ are you thinking of forking out? It better be more than 2K

TonyFromNapa · 12-08-2003, 01:47 AM

Every 4a swap is easy into a ae86. Atleast for me. 20v swap is the hardest but it still wasnt that bad. I have a blacktop 20v myself and the only hard part was forking out $2500. 4a swaps are all bolt in. Just minor mod to firewall for 20v and thats it. If you got brains and have a couple years of real engine work experience its a breeze.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-11-2003, 09:36 AM

Aights heres a stumper for yalls.

I own a 4-AC Sohc.

I want Twin-Cam 16V..

Can i swap heads and just heads???

12-11-2003, 02:34 PM

you could but the 4ac block is weak. Just get a 16v. I'll sell you one if you come get it.

TonyFromNapa · 12-12-2003, 12:41 PM

Why dont u just buy 16v? there cheap as hell. OR go buy a gts. A gts conversion to a sr5 is probably to much work for you.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-16-2003, 05:27 PM

Damn, you sure do like to make beef... FU(K YOU RICH BOY... AND YOUR FU(KIN CAR... DONT COME AND TALK *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* TO ME, IM NOT YOUR LITTLE *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*... IM SICK THIS *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*... RESPECT... SOMTHING YOU SHOULD LEARN... BUT DONT WORRY I DONT GOT ANY FOR YOU... OR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO DO WITH... IM NOT USUALLY THE *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* TALKER... BUT HEY I DONT CARE ANYMORE... YOU ANNOYED ME TOO MUCH... ALL YOU DOIN IS LOOKIN FOR A FIGHT...

12-16-2003, 08:24 PM

If I were you I'd just use a FWD high comp and make the work worth it. If you can find a 90-91 corolla gts or a geo prizm GSI then go for it.

You can use the RWD accessories from the 4ac to get it in right. If you don't feel like doing the wiring/fuel system you can go with carbs (which are badass IMO). If you wanna PM me again I can fill you in on the swap. A high comp that can breathe well is alot of fun. They also use the strongest 16v block. here's a little info from club4ag:

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4A-GE 16 valve with Carburetors

Provides flexibility and ease of replacement. The sounds emanating from it when properly tuned cannot be beat. Popular conversions include Mikuni-Solex, and Weber applications. In Japan, Keihin FCR carburetors from motorcycles, allow it to put out 170hp at 8500rpm. More on carbing a 4ag: http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...he%204A-GE.htm
-------

Also, this article might help you: http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...of%204A-GE.htm

Here's a page about the original 16v you might find interesting : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/8422/4age.htm

The difference between 4ac and 4ag is insane. You'll love it if you like the 4ac already.

mmmmmm carbs:

SATSUJIN · 12-21-2003, 07:35 PM

LISTEN UP!!! Most of the people on here seem to be trend followers. They reply about a subject they know nothing about. The SR5 bottom end is not weaker, but in most cases is actually stronger than a 16V bottom end. The 4AGZE drops right onto the SR5 engine mounts. Not a problem. Decide wheter you are more interested in

1)-4AGZE
2)-4AGE 16V
3)-4AC bottom with 16V head

I can tell you just about anything you need to know to swap anyone of these motors. I won't give you shyt or make fun of you if you don't know something. Please don't judge me by my number of posts. I have three 86s, so you can trust that I won't misinform you like a lot of these other people seem to be doing.

12-21-2003, 08:13 PM

well i can say with good conscience that I don't spread BS so I hope you weren't "calling me out" on something.

SATSUJIN · 12-22-2003, 12:36 PM

chill out man. I see you on club 4ag, so i'm sure you are more knowledgeable in this area too. Don't be offended, because you know what kind of people i'm talking about... and you don't seem to be one of them.

_uG TM · 12-22-2003, 12:47 PM

haha

It depends on how well you do with a wrench in your hand is all. If your good with wiring, you can do either the 20valve or GZE. If your not good with wiring get a bluetop or redtop. If you dont have alot of money, wait till you do and get a bluetop from someone local who has done a swap.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-22-2003, 01:35 PM

Alright thanks, I heard alot of bad stuff about AGZE so im prolly not going to go with that, im not much a power freak anywayz. I am thinking more carbs because i know a few people with fuel injected and they dont like to work. and My money is short now, but when i do the swap im going to spend in the 2K range, but thats the swap, pumpkin and axle hubs. and drive shaft yoke

12-22-2003, 04:21 PM

my friend here has an 87 rear end from a gts. It's open diff but you can put in a kaaz or cut the axles and use a trd.

11-29-2003, 04:23 PM	#1
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	4-ag Anyone have any? Care to tell me how it runs and what not...

12-02-2003, 06:08 PM	#8
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	RE: I heard they were a pain is the a$s.

12-02-2003, 06:15 PM	#10
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	RE: No, 4AGZE.

12-16-2003, 08:24 PM	#19
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	If I were you I'd just use a FWD high comp and make the work worth it. If you can find a 90-91 corolla gts or a geo prizm GSI then go for it. You can use the RWD accessories from the 4ac to get it in right. If you don't feel like doing the wiring/fuel system you can go with carbs (which are badass IMO). If you wanna PM me again I can fill you in on the swap. A high comp that can breathe well is alot of fun. They also use the strongest 16v block. here's a little info from club4ag: ------ 4A-GE 16 valve with Carburetors Provides flexibility and ease of replacement. The sounds emanating from it when properly tuned cannot be beat. Popular conversions include Mikuni-Solex, and Weber applications. In Japan, Keihin FCR carburetors from motorcycles, allow it to put out 170hp at 8500rpm. More on carbing a 4ag: http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...he%204A-GE.htm ------- Also, this article might help you: http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...of%204A-GE.htm Here's a page about the original 16v you might find interesting : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/8422/4age.htm The difference between 4ac and 4ag is insane. You'll love it if you like the 4ac already. mmmmmm carbs: Attached Images

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11-29-2003, 05:00 PM	#2
TokyoDrifterxo7 Tokyo7even Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 295	your name is panda 86 yet you dont know anything about a 4ag? lol... anyways, yes they run good. Go to www.club4ag.com

11-29-2003, 05:03 PM	#3
Chas Guest Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,566	Depends on the condition.

11-30-2003, 10:01 AM	#4
z33Drifter Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cali Bay Area Posts: 78	yea thats kina funny he doesnt know much about 4ags considering his name is panda eight six

11-30-2003, 02:10 PM	#5
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	i know enough, but im always looking to learn more, i just wanted some opitaons...and yes i do go to club4ag.com alot...

11-30-2003, 04:59 PM	#6
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	If you have any specific ques I can try to answer. You can catch me on AIM: aphxero.

12-02-2003, 06:05 PM	#7
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	i have a 4-AC in my SR5... im thinking about when to swap a 4-AGZE in it

12-02-2003, 06:11 PM	#9
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	4-AC? they are SOHC... i don mind im not a power freak.

12-03-2003, 02:52 PM	#12
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	i onoo which evers cheaper...

12-03-2003, 03:02 PM	#13
CRASHDRIVE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 937	You can use a 4A-G with 16valve or 20valve. They're good. But they dont bolt-in directly to your SR5. There's a minor modifaction that needs to be done to your engine bay in order for the 4A-G to fit. How much $$$ are you thinking of forking out? It better be more than 2K

12-08-2003, 01:47 AM	#14
TonyFromNapa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Napa Posts: 61	Every 4a swap is easy into a ae86. Atleast for me. 20v swap is the hardest but it still wasnt that bad. I have a blacktop 20v myself and the only hard part was forking out $2500. 4a swaps are all bolt in. Just minor mod to firewall for 20v and thats it. If you got brains and have a couple years of real engine work experience its a breeze.

12-11-2003, 09:36 AM	#15
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	Aights heres a stumper for yalls. I own a 4-AC Sohc. I want Twin-Cam 16V.. Can i swap heads and just heads???

12-11-2003, 02:34 PM	#16
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	you could but the 4ac block is weak. Just get a 16v. I'll sell you one if you come get it.

12-12-2003, 12:41 PM	#17
TonyFromNapa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Napa Posts: 61	Why dont u just buy 16v? there cheap as hell. OR go buy a gts. A gts conversion to a sr5 is probably to much work for you.

12-16-2003, 05:27 PM	#18
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	Damn, you sure do like to make beef... FU(K YOU RICH BOY... AND YOUR FU(KIN CAR... DONT COME AND TALK CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored TO ME, IM NOT YOUR LITTLE CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensored... IM SICK THIS CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored... RESPECT... SOMTHING YOU SHOULD LEARN... BUT DONT WORRY I DONT GOT ANY FOR YOU... OR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO DO WITH... IM NOT USUALLY THE CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored TALKER... BUT HEY I DONT CARE ANYMORE... YOU ANNOYED ME TOO MUCH... ALL YOU DOIN IS LOOKIN FOR A FIGHT...

12-21-2003, 07:35 PM	#20
SATSUJIN Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 12	LISTEN UP!!! Most of the people on here seem to be trend followers. They reply about a subject they know nothing about. The SR5 bottom end is not weaker, but in most cases is actually stronger than a 16V bottom end. The 4AGZE drops right onto the SR5 engine mounts. Not a problem. Decide wheter you are more interested in 1)-4AGZE 2)-4AGE 16V 3)-4AC bottom with 16V head I can tell you just about anything you need to know to swap anyone of these motors. I won't give you shyt or make fun of you if you don't know something. Please don't judge me by my number of posts. I have three 86s, so you can trust that I won't misinform you like a lot of these other people seem to be doing.

12-21-2003, 08:13 PM	#21
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	well i can say with good conscience that I don't spread BS so I hope you weren't "calling me out" on something.

12-22-2003, 12:36 PM	#22
SATSUJIN Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 12	chill out man. I see you on club 4ag, so i'm sure you are more knowledgeable in this area too. Don't be offended, because you know what kind of people i'm talking about... and you don't seem to be one of them.

12-22-2003, 12:47 PM	#23
_uG TM Touge only. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: portland Posts: 261	haha It depends on how well you do with a wrench in your hand is all. If your good with wiring, you can do either the 20valve or GZE. If your not good with wiring get a bluetop or redtop. If you dont have alot of money, wait till you do and get a bluetop from someone local who has done a swap.

12-22-2003, 01:35 PM	#24
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	Alright thanks, I heard alot of bad stuff about AGZE so im prolly not going to go with that, im not much a power freak anywayz. I am thinking more carbs because i know a few people with fuel injected and they dont like to work. and My money is short now, but when i do the swap im going to spend in the 2K range, but thats the swap, pumpkin and axle hubs. and drive shaft yoke

12-22-2003, 04:21 PM	#25
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	my friend here has an 87 rear end from a gts. It's open diff but you can put in a kaaz or cut the axles and use a trd.