ABS and LSD aren't compatible?

SC_erritos · 07-29-2004, 06:41 PM

I was building a car online and found out LSD and ABS aren't compatibe (correct me if i'm wrong). I'm just wondering why it's so, and if i can't get both for my FR, which is more worthwhile? thx.

Erkumi · 07-29-2004, 07:12 PM

Why wouldn't it be possible. I would like to know why it is inpossible first.

JunpoweR · 07-29-2004, 07:52 PM

ABS DOES WORK WITH LSD

My 1990 TURBO II comes with ABS and A LSD(limitedSlipDiff)

Why wouldnt it work>??

Well and why would U want ABS?
Im removing mines

1\2 way done already..

Erkumi · 07-29-2004, 07:56 PM

Thats what im sayin

SC_erritos · 07-29-2004, 11:44 PM

b/c i can't get a IS with LSD and ABS from the factory, and my friend said is's can't have them both, so.. yeah.

ACDSupra7 · 07-30-2004, 12:01 AM

I don't think your friend knows wtf he's talking about. But an LSD is far more important. In fact, I've disabled my ABS because it feels unnatural. Plus controlling brake lock is fun on the track XP

Erkumi · 07-30-2004, 12:32 AM

Sh!t he aint my friend. I agree with the LSD

JunpoweR · 07-30-2004, 10:09 AM

ABS VS. LSD

I say ABS is GREAT on Rainy Days

But lsd is Great on the track or for drifting.

But if u never drive the car to its limits just go with open diff and no abs u don't need either.. lol

SC_erritos · 07-31-2004, 05:32 PM

sorry for being stupid, but what's open diff. and how is it different from lsd.

180sx2nr8u · 07-31-2004, 07:34 PM

correct me if im wrong

an open diff is where both wheels are spinning at the same speed at all times (i hope im right), vs an lsd which is there to allow a slipping wheel and a gripped wheel to operate at different speeds so that youre not just spinning both tires. for example. say your left rear wheel is on an ice slick, but your right rear wheel is on dry pavement. if you have an open diff, you will apply the accelerator, but because the icy wheel slips, so will the regular one. but if you have an lsd, the icy wheel will keep spinning, but it wont make the right one spin, allowing you to break free of the ice. i hope that helps, and if im wrong about any of this, please correct me.

Erkumi · 07-31-2004, 07:44 PM

Actually, open dif is. Lets say you do a burnout with an open dif, one wheel will burn out and one wheel will stay still. An LSD makes it so both wheels would burn out.

07-31-2004, 08:04 PM

wut site were u building a car on ?

oh i dont see why it wouldnt work...

180sx2nr8u · 07-31-2004, 08:11 PM

yeah, id like to know of a site i can build a car on. ive been looking for one. how is it?

SC_erritos · 08-01-2004, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 180sx2nr8u
yeah, id like to know of a site i can build a car on. ive been looking for one. how is it?

lol wha? i meant for the is300 site.

i don't know of a site that lets you build ne car u want. (unless it's a video game 8-) ).

also, so stock cars w/o LSD or Open diff. spin ...both tires at once? so what would be the difference from getting the one that has both spinning the same, and a stock car?

nissanguy_24 · 08-01-2004, 01:33 AM

......

shameless plug for the site but honestly, on LSDs visit this thread.
http://www.drifting.com/forums/showt...&threadid=6800

Also video games and online sites like that arent a great way to learn about cars. Your buddy is probably the same guy who says he wants a "stage 2 turbo" or "Na tune up"

ovenmittjustice · 08-06-2004, 10:37 AM

I think you are confusing this with AWD applications... In an AWD vehicle, the ABS computer can not compensate for 3 LSDs... which is why the evo RS, which has a helical lsd in the rear, does not come with ABS

But there should be absolutely no problems with RWD applications

GHOST/^\DRIFTer · 08-06-2004, 12:04 PM

whats up with all this questions about lsd's im just laughing my *Censored**Censored**Censored* of!

abs are for the brakes category

lsd and open differentals are transmission category

1 way lsd= one tire spins
1.5 way lsd=grip driving
2 way= drift driving

abs is a computer that balances the pressure you put on the brake pedal so that they wont lock up and have you slidin into a mailbox

it takes skill to drive high speeds with out abs you have to know how to balance brake pressure so that they wont lock up.

Minivan_Driver · 08-06-2004, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GHOST/^\DRIFTer
whats up with all this questions about lsd's im just laughing my *Censored**Censored**Censored* of!

abs are for the brakes category

lsd and open differentals are transmission category

1 way lsd= one tire spins
1.5 way lsd=grip driving
2 way= drift driving

abs is a computer that balances the pressure you put on the brake pedal so that they wont lock up and have you slidin into a mailbox

it takes skill to drive high speeds with out abs you have to know how to balance brake pressure so that they wont lock up.

uh maybe you drive a honda or other FF but in RWD cars, LSD are in the differential not the transmission, also 1 way is full lock on accel, 1.5 is full lock on accel nad partial on decel, 2 way is Full lock accel and decel

GHOST/^\DRIFTer · 08-06-2004, 12:21 PM

but it falls under the transmission category

Minivan_Driver · 08-06-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GHOST/^\DRIFTer
but it falls under the transmission category

Yeah it does in Gran Turismo right

GHOST/^\DRIFTer · 08-06-2004, 05:07 PM

so then what category does it fall in electronics? suspension?
in the interior, exterior which one? cause i really dont know

ovenmittjustice · 08-06-2004, 06:56 PM

Yeah, LSDs would be considered part of the drive line. Although in RWD locations they are not in the transmission, they are between the rear wheels. (and not "in the differential, either... an LSD IS the differential.

JunpoweR · 08-07-2004, 12:08 AM

ok babies,

LimitedSlipDiffrential is A type of Diffrential
ITs Limited!! lol

GRiDRaceTech · 08-07-2004, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ovenmittjustice
the evo RS, which has a helical lsd in the rear, does not come with ABS

Incorrect. It has a front helical limited-slip. The rear diff is a clutch-type limited-slip.

ovenmittjustice · 08-07-2004, 09:39 PM

yeah... my bad...

07-29-2004, 06:41 PM	#1
SC_erritos Rounder Join Date: May 2004 Location: S.California, Cerritos Posts: 20	ABS and LSD I was building a car online and found out LSD and ABS aren't compatibe (correct me if i'm wrong). I'm just wondering why it's so, and if i can't get both for my FR, which is more worthwhile? thx.

08-06-2004, 12:04 PM	#17
GHOST/^\DRIFTer Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 55	whats up with all this questions about lsd's im just laughing my CensoredCensoredCensored of! abs are for the brakes category lsd and open differentals are transmission category 1 way lsd= one tire spins 1.5 way lsd=grip driving 2 way= drift driving abs is a computer that balances the pressure you put on the brake pedal so that they wont lock up and have you slidin into a mailbox it takes skill to drive high speeds with out abs you have to know how to balance brake pressure so that they wont lock up.
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08-06-2004, 12:21 PM	#19
GHOST/^\DRIFTer Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 55	but it falls under the transmission category
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08-06-2004, 05:07 PM	#21
GHOST/^\DRIFTer Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 55	so then what category does it fall in electronics? suspension? in the interior, exterior which one? cause i really dont know
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07-29-2004, 07:12 PM	#2
Erkumi Guest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nashua,NH(former resident of Lynn,MA) Posts: 112	Why wouldn't it be possible. I would like to know why it is inpossible first.

07-29-2004, 07:52 PM	#3
JunpoweR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ~San~Francisco~415~510~ Posts: 434	ABS DOES WORK WITH LSD My 1990 TURBO II comes with ABS and A LSD(limitedSlipDiff) Why wouldnt it work>?? Well and why would U want ABS? Im removing mines 1\2 way done already..

07-29-2004, 07:56 PM	#4
Erkumi Guest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nashua,NH(former resident of Lynn,MA) Posts: 112	Thats what im sayin

07-29-2004, 11:44 PM	#5
SC_erritos Rounder Join Date: May 2004 Location: S.California, Cerritos Posts: 20	b/c i can't get a IS with LSD and ABS from the factory, and my friend said is's can't have them both, so.. yeah.

07-30-2004, 12:01 AM	#6
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	I don't think your friend knows wtf he's talking about. But an LSD is far more important. In fact, I've disabled my ABS because it feels unnatural. Plus controlling brake lock is fun on the track XP

07-30-2004, 12:32 AM	#7
Erkumi Guest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nashua,NH(former resident of Lynn,MA) Posts: 112	Sh!t he aint my friend. I agree with the LSD

07-30-2004, 10:09 AM	#8
JunpoweR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ~San~Francisco~415~510~ Posts: 434	ABS VS. LSD I say ABS is GREAT on Rainy Days But lsd is Great on the track or for drifting. But if u never drive the car to its limits just go with open diff and no abs u don't need either.. lol

07-31-2004, 05:32 PM	#9
SC_erritos Rounder Join Date: May 2004 Location: S.California, Cerritos Posts: 20	sorry for being stupid, but what's open diff. and how is it different from lsd.

07-31-2004, 07:34 PM	#10
180sx2nr8u The Shadow Drifters Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 140	correct me if im wrong an open diff is where both wheels are spinning at the same speed at all times (i hope im right), vs an lsd which is there to allow a slipping wheel and a gripped wheel to operate at different speeds so that youre not just spinning both tires. for example. say your left rear wheel is on an ice slick, but your right rear wheel is on dry pavement. if you have an open diff, you will apply the accelerator, but because the icy wheel slips, so will the regular one. but if you have an lsd, the icy wheel will keep spinning, but it wont make the right one spin, allowing you to break free of the ice. i hope that helps, and if im wrong about any of this, please correct me.

07-31-2004, 07:44 PM	#11
Erkumi Guest Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nashua,NH(former resident of Lynn,MA) Posts: 112	Actually, open dif is. Lets say you do a burnout with an open dif, one wheel will burn out and one wheel will stay still. An LSD makes it so both wheels would burn out.

07-31-2004, 08:04 PM	#12
nedinic Guest Posts: n/a	wut site were u building a car on ? oh i dont see why it wouldnt work...

07-31-2004, 08:11 PM	#13
180sx2nr8u The Shadow Drifters Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 140	yeah, id like to know of a site i can build a car on. ive been looking for one. how is it?

08-01-2004, 01:33 AM	#15
nissanguy_24 Guest Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 3,197	...... shameless plug for the site but honestly, on LSDs visit this thread. http://www.drifting.com/forums/showt...&threadid=6800 Also video games and online sites like that arent a great way to learn about cars. Your buddy is probably the same guy who says he wants a "stage 2 turbo" or "Na tune up"

08-06-2004, 10:37 AM	#16
ovenmittjustice Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	I think you are confusing this with AWD applications... In an AWD vehicle, the ABS computer can not compensate for 3 LSDs... which is why the evo RS, which has a helical lsd in the rear, does not come with ABS But there should be absolutely no problems with RWD applications

08-06-2004, 06:56 PM	#22
ovenmittjustice Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	Yeah, LSDs would be considered part of the drive line. Although in RWD locations they are not in the transmission, they are between the rear wheels. (and not "in the differential, either... an LSD IS the differential.

08-07-2004, 12:08 AM	#23
JunpoweR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ~San~Francisco~415~510~ Posts: 434	ok babies, LimitedSlipDiffrential is A type of Diffrential ITs Limited!! lol

08-07-2004, 09:39 PM	#25
ovenmittjustice Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	yeah... my bad...