CA18DET or SR20DET?

s13/350z · 12-03-2003, 02:51 AM

I dont know if this has been discussed but which would you recommend for your drifter(s13)? For originality i would say ca18 only a little smaller and a little less HP. but with the money you save on the cheaper motor u could make more power than the sr20 stock. I guess u can understand what i just meant. anyways thanx for any input in advance.

QuickStyle · 12-03-2003, 03:02 AM

i can almost garanty that every one will tell you to get the sr20 but i know plenty of exelent drifters over here that run the ca18 with no complaints. i used to have a ca18det in my silvia and it was a great engine i only took it out because i decided to go N/A with that car. if you wanna save a few bucks go with the ca, its a strong motor that can hold alot of boost.

s13/350z · 12-03-2003, 03:50 AM

do you know what the CA red lines at? and is the swap and harder easier than the sr?into an s13 240sx

QuickStyle · 12-03-2003, 04:01 AM

ca red lines at 7500 but i've taking them to 8500 with no problem.
the swap would be the same as an sr.

Feint · 12-03-2003, 04:34 AM

If you were to get a CA18DET,get rid of the stock turbo ,it's a joke.

s13/350z · 12-03-2003, 05:08 AM

upgrade turbo= FOR SHURE

12-04-2003, 02:21 AM

CA18DET= hard to find parts.

panda_3ight_6 · 12-04-2003, 05:06 AM

CA18= OLD

SR20= Not so old...

but not too many people here put CA18's in there S13's...

TokyoDrifterxo7 · 12-05-2003, 11:56 PM

id just go with a SR

12-06-2003, 07:53 AM

You can get CA parts from nissan here. Much like the SR an n/a version came out in the states. It came in the pulsar nx. Parts wouldn't be any harder than getting sentra parts for the SR.

There's nothing wrong with old motors. You've just gotta keep a closer eye on them and give more tlc. Having an old motor has made me closer to my car if that makes sense.

TFIRDS13 · 12-07-2003, 08:06 PM

u can get ca parts at autozone or anyother store. like he said a na version came out in the states. all parts for the ca are the same as na and det just. just the injectors are bigger in det the throttle body is bigger in na. i think the cams are a little bigger but dont quote me on it.

jdmdrewS14 · 12-07-2003, 08:21 PM

Thats easy SR20. Dont get me wrong but I like the CA but the SR has so much more potental. But do what you want not what others say is better at least youd be different

prodigy · 12-07-2003, 08:21 PM

I am going CA18DET because I want to be different and I see no problem with having an engine that is a few years older then the SR red top. What car in the states did the CA18DE come in? I think I should know this seeing how I am going to be a CA owner. The years it came in would also be greatly appreciated.

D1 DRIFTER · 12-11-2003, 10:39 AM

the sr20det has a huge power potential.. i know of ppl who have a 400rwhp sr20det on stock internals(ernie fixmer) and still relaible with nothing liek pistons or rods etc.. thats what i think and u aare safer with gonig sr cuz of the newer they motor the more info u can get on how it was used...

just my 2psi.

BeerBringer · 12-11-2003, 11:02 AM

The CA18DET internals can handle a bit over 300 hp. The stock turbo (Garret T25) can handle a maximum 270 hp on a CA18DET if the engine is tuned the way i should...

300 hp in an S13 is ALOT of power!

ca18det_s13 · 07-12-2004, 11:45 PM

i have no problem with the ca18det... i have quite a few ca18det motor i'm currently on my second car with an ca18det...

fyi... not all of the parts from the american spec pulsar nx will fit on the jdm or uk ca18det.. for example the alternator doesn't fit the mounts are different i ordered one from autozone for my silvia and it never fit it was opposite probably cause it was mounted on the other side or something... i'm running 660cc injector with an sds system and a couple of other things... its should be pretty fast i haven't ran it yet cause i still need to wire it up, but my silvia with a ca18det kept up with a srt-4 wit mods on 7 psi of boost the ca18det can hold its own .... it has a cast iron block and one lobe for every valve unlike the sr20 alumin block with one lobe for every two valve ... ca18det does have pretty okie aftermarket backup not as much as the sr20 but enough www.takakaira.com they have the most ca18det parts i have seen... i hope this help whoever is deciding on sr20 or ca18 if you need any hard to find parts i have lots of spare parts just email me and i see if i can help you out....

svtxchinoy · 07-14-2004, 10:34 AM

Stick with the CA til it gives up. Thats the time to upgrade to the SR.

Thai Juku · 07-14-2004, 12:11 PM

Sorry to be unorthodox...But I prefer the SR20VE...It's all about total balance for me...

TeamSLIPdrifter · 07-14-2004, 09:48 PM

Like all the veteran drifters on here (not me), drifting is all car control, not power. Id go with one that provides the better balance. I think CA18 is lighter but im not sure. And if it is lighter it still provides you with enough power. Im sure youll be fine with the CA18

jeffwins24 · 04-08-2008, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwalker

CA18DET= hard to find parts.

Go to a nissan dealership and ask about importing parts from other countrys

they'll look for a number and hand you it, call that number up and you can talk with someone from nissan about buying the part you need and importing it.

and if your lazy theres also craigslist and ebay.

not to mention the CA18DET is lighter and stronger then the SR20DET.

JonnySlick · 04-08-2008, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwalker

CA18DET= hard to find parts.

^ you're an idiot...CA18DET part are like ALL here in the states!

go for the CA!

Piner · 04-08-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca18det_s13

i have no problem with the ca18det... i have quite a few ca18det motor i'm currently on my second car with an ca18det...

fyi... not all of the parts from the american spec pulsar nx will fit on the jdm or uk ca18det.. for example the alternator doesn't fit the mounts are different i ordered one from autozone for my silvia and it never fit it was opposite probably cause it was mounted on the other side or something... i'm running 660cc injector with an sds system and a couple of other things... its should be pretty fast i haven't ran it yet cause i still need to wire it up, but my silvia with a ca18det kept up with a srt-4 wit mods on 7 psi of boost the ca18det can hold its own .... it has a cast iron block and one lobe for every valve unlike the sr20 alumin block with one lobe for every two valve ... ca18det does have pretty okie aftermarket backup not as much as the sr20 but enough www.takakaira.com they have the most ca18det parts i have seen... i hope this help whoever is deciding on sr20 or ca18 if you need any hard to find parts i have lots of spare parts just email me and i see if i can help you out....

the parts that dont fit the from the pulsar can be ordered from the 1985 200sx turbo that had a CA18ET SOHC but all the RWD stuff is the same

03-24-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigy

I am going CA18DET because I want to be different and I see no problem with having an engine that is a few years older then the SR red top. What car in the states did the CA18DE come in? I think I should know this seeing how I am going to be a CA owner. The years it came in would also be greatly appreciated.

the 180sx is the name for the hatchback that carried the ca18det in Japan. the 240sx hatchback in the states is the same thing but with a different motor.

nemesis91101 · 03-28-2009, 11:45 PM

Cast my vote for a s13 blacktop. Only reason to go redtop is to instantly do a rebuild if u plan on runnin with oem internal for 5 or more years go blacktop. Plus more torque than a ca. I luv it it just pulls all the way to redline unlike the ka. s13 silvias I read do 0-60 with that motor in 6.18 with 3.6 final drive where 240s here come with a 4.083 add front mount instead of a side mount u got urself a fast lil car or cud be in 6.5 still fast anyway. As more me I decided to be different by driving a 240 in my town there's only less than 10 unlike stangs n all that. I can afford to have bad seals n gaskets goin to school so that's why I wanna blacktop not an old ca I just wanna drop it in n have a runnin car.

nemesis91101 · 03-28-2009, 11:49 PM

Just looking at it from a cash stand point plus on the sr u mess up ur cylinder walls bad get new sleeves wala

12-03-2003, 02:51 AM	#1
s13/350z Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 377	CA18DET or SR20DET? I dont know if this has been discussed but which would you recommend for your drifter(s13)? For originality i would say ca18 only a little smaller and a little less HP. but with the money you save on the cheaper motor u could make more power than the sr20 stock. I guess u can understand what i just meant. anyways thanx for any input in advance.

12-11-2003, 10:39 AM	#14
D1 DRIFTER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 754	sr20det all the way! the sr20det has a huge power potential.. i know of ppl who have a 400rwhp sr20det on stock internals(ernie fixmer) and still relaible with nothing liek pistons or rods etc.. thats what i think and u aare safer with gonig sr cuz of the newer they motor the more info u can get on how it was used... just my 2psi.

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12-03-2003, 03:02 AM	#2
QuickStyle Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hiroshima, japan Posts: 142	i can almost garanty that every one will tell you to get the sr20 but i know plenty of exelent drifters over here that run the ca18 with no complaints. i used to have a ca18det in my silvia and it was a great engine i only took it out because i decided to go N/A with that car. if you wanna save a few bucks go with the ca, its a strong motor that can hold alot of boost.

12-03-2003, 03:50 AM	#3
s13/350z Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 377	do you know what the CA red lines at? and is the swap and harder easier than the sr?into an s13 240sx

12-03-2003, 04:01 AM	#4
QuickStyle Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hiroshima, japan Posts: 142	ca red lines at 7500 but i've taking them to 8500 with no problem. the swap would be the same as an sr.

12-03-2003, 04:34 AM	#5
Feint ƒhƒŠƒtƒg Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 933	If you were to get a CA18DET,get rid of the stock turbo ,it's a joke.

12-03-2003, 05:08 AM	#6
s13/350z Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 377	upgrade turbo= FOR SHURE

12-04-2003, 02:21 AM	#7
Nightwalker Guest Posts: n/a	CA18DET= hard to find parts.

12-04-2003, 05:06 AM	#8
panda_3ight_6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 612	CA18= OLD SR20= Not so old... but not too many people here put CA18's in there S13's...

12-05-2003, 11:56 PM	#9
TokyoDrifterxo7 Tokyo7even Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 295	id just go with a SR

12-06-2003, 07:53 AM	#10
aphxero Guest Posts: n/a	You can get CA parts from nissan here. Much like the SR an n/a version came out in the states. It came in the pulsar nx. Parts wouldn't be any harder than getting sentra parts for the SR. There's nothing wrong with old motors. You've just gotta keep a closer eye on them and give more tlc. Having an old motor has made me closer to my car if that makes sense.

12-07-2003, 08:06 PM	#11
TFIRDS13 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 6	u can get ca parts at autozone or anyother store. like he said a na version came out in the states. all parts for the ca are the same as na and det just. just the injectors are bigger in det the throttle body is bigger in na. i think the cams are a little bigger but dont quote me on it.

12-07-2003, 08:21 PM	#12
jdmdrewS14 Full Moon Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oc Posts: 170	Thats easy SR20. Dont get me wrong but I like the CA but the SR has so much more potental. But do what you want not what others say is better at least youd be different

12-07-2003, 08:21 PM	#13
prodigy Broken 240sx Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Saginaw, Michigan Posts: 695	I am going CA18DET because I want to be different and I see no problem with having an engine that is a few years older then the SR red top. What car in the states did the CA18DE come in? I think I should know this seeing how I am going to be a CA owner. The years it came in would also be greatly appreciated.

12-11-2003, 11:02 AM	#15
BeerBringer Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 34	The CA18DET internals can handle a bit over 300 hp. The stock turbo (Garret T25) can handle a maximum 270 hp on a CA18DET if the engine is tuned the way i should... 300 hp in an S13 is ALOT of power!

07-12-2004, 11:45 PM	#16
ca18det_s13 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: houston/england Posts: 2	i have no problem with the ca18det... i have quite a few ca18det motor i'm currently on my second car with an ca18det... fyi... not all of the parts from the american spec pulsar nx will fit on the jdm or uk ca18det.. for example the alternator doesn't fit the mounts are different i ordered one from autozone for my silvia and it never fit it was opposite probably cause it was mounted on the other side or something... i'm running 660cc injector with an sds system and a couple of other things... its should be pretty fast i haven't ran it yet cause i still need to wire it up, but my silvia with a ca18det kept up with a srt-4 wit mods on 7 psi of boost the ca18det can hold its own .... it has a cast iron block and one lobe for every valve unlike the sr20 alumin block with one lobe for every two valve ... ca18det does have pretty okie aftermarket backup not as much as the sr20 but enough www.takakaira.com they have the most ca18det parts i have seen... i hope this help whoever is deciding on sr20 or ca18 if you need any hard to find parts i have lots of spare parts just email me and i see if i can help you out....

07-14-2004, 10:34 AM	#17
svtxchinoy I'm RICH B*ATCHH!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 79	Stick with the CA til it gives up. Thats the time to upgrade to the SR.

07-14-2004, 12:11 PM	#18
Thai Juku Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 523	Sorry to be unorthodox...But I prefer the SR20VE...It's all about total balance for me...

07-14-2004, 09:48 PM	#19
TeamSLIPdrifter Nice rx7, is it 4 or 6cyl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bartlett, Illinois Posts: 154	Like all the veteran drifters on here (not me), drifting is all car control, not power. Id go with one that provides the better balance. I think CA18 is lighter but im not sure. And if it is lighter it still provides you with enough power. Im sure youll be fine with the CA18

03-28-2009, 11:45 PM	#24
nemesis91101 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 43	Cast my vote for a s13 blacktop. Only reason to go redtop is to instantly do a rebuild if u plan on runnin with oem internal for 5 or more years go blacktop. Plus more torque than a ca. I luv it it just pulls all the way to redline unlike the ka. s13 silvias I read do 0-60 with that motor in 6.18 with 3.6 final drive where 240s here come with a 4.083 add front mount instead of a side mount u got urself a fast lil car or cud be in 6.5 still fast anyway. As more me I decided to be different by driving a 240 in my town there's only less than 10 unlike stangs n all that. I can afford to have bad seals n gaskets goin to school so that's why I wanna blacktop not an old ca I just wanna drop it in n have a runnin car.

03-28-2009, 11:49 PM	#25
nemesis91101 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 43	Just looking at it from a cash stand point plus on the sr u mess up ur cylinder walls bad get new sleeves wala