How do you turn off Super Hicas on a 240SX?

BulletProof Dan · 12-07-2003, 06:40 AM

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I can get my hands on a 91 240SX in really good condition inside and out with about 100k miles for about $1.5k. Does that seem like a good price? If so does anybody know how you turn off Super Hicas? I want to be able to drift the car and I know that Super Hicas wouldn't be the best option. But I've been looking and there just aren't that many 240s in the Northeast in good condition. Thanks In Advance.

ACDSupra7 · 12-07-2003, 12:47 PM

There's probably a fuse. Browse through a shop manual.

TokyoDrifterxo7 · 12-07-2003, 07:06 PM

ACDSupra7 doesnt know what hes talking about. You need to get a hicas eliminator.
http://www.splparts.com/S13/Suspension/ArmBush.asp

ACDSupra7 · 12-07-2003, 07:52 PM

My bad.

BulletProof Dan · 12-07-2003, 09:27 PM

Thanks for the replies. I am guessing it's easier and a lot cheaper probably to find one without Hicas.

12-07-2003, 10:50 PM

you flip the switch to "OFF" worked on my 240

BulletProof Dan · 12-08-2003, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nightwalker
you flip the switch to "OFF" worked on my 240

Are you being serious? I didn't remember seeing a switch on the car but I didn't inspect everything to the finest detail.

QuickStyle · 12-08-2003, 08:15 PM

get your wheels lined up perefectly straight and unplug the hicas computer... or pay for the kit.

Chas · 12-08-2003, 10:59 PM

get the kit. Your best bet.

emission · 12-09-2003, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuickStyle
get your wheels lined up perefectly straight and unplug the hicas computer... or pay for the kit.

This man has just saved you millions.

you'll have to pulg it in every once and a while to reset and adjust the wheels but it works.

12-09-2003, 10:39 PM

sorry, I was just joking about the flipping the switch off comment. Hicas is not an electrically controlled function like "traction" is on new cars. Its a mechanical system that senses speed and supposedly aids in turning (think Prelude 4 wheel steering). There are HICAS eliminator kits on the market. You should check www.pdm-racing.com or www.splparts.com I forget which one has the HICAS eliminator.

There's your answer.

eric240 · 12-17-2003, 01:04 PM

ya, stillen sells them for a bunch but SPLparts has good deals on them. Don't use the cheap "do-it-youself" methods , only end up with big headache just spend the money and bolt it up urself.

monkeymagic · 12-17-2003, 01:21 PM

sorry for the newbe question but whats Super Hicas

TokyoDrifterxo7 · 12-17-2003, 01:41 PM

super hicas has been covered, just search. it's 4 wheel steering.

monkeymagic · 12-17-2003, 03:33 PM

o
ok

Modz · 12-20-2003, 05:01 PM

To remove Hicas its pretty straight foward..

U need a Hicas Lock kit.. they retail for about 190 AU

ITs simply a solid metal bar that replaces the mechanical unit at the rear of your diff.. ur HICAS light will remain on but meh what can you do.. here is a example of a HICAS lock Kit.

Sorry about the small pic.. but it was all i could find on such short notice.

ae86shinchu · 12-22-2003, 03:37 AM

i have a HICAS car and i drift it fine. once you kick your clutch or yank your e-brake, hicas cant do much from keeping them from sliding. the torque of the KA is plenty to overcome hicas if you get the hang of it. only thing is since the hicas model has steering angle sensors on the steering wheel, you cant change the hub out for a nardi or momo or anything. completely different and you have to leave the factory wheel. sucks for me cuz i bang my knees on the wheel when i heel-toe all the time. pretty annoying. yeah get the non-hicas if possible, but at least hicas comes with a decent begginers LSD, whereas the non-hicas you will fork over a hefty ammount of dough for an LSD. the choice is yours!
i prefer the hicas since i do some mountain carving too and no im not some crazy touge fool who drifts every turn out there. hicas is awsome for grip driving.
choose wisely!

Modz · 12-22-2003, 03:49 AM

ae86shinchu: what you are saying is true.. but for more advanced drifting and entries such as Feint or as some people call it Scando flick, HICAS is not desireable. Its also a pain in the *Censored**Censored**Censored* for high speed (3rd gear) trail braking entries as well !

I am not sure what the situation is like in the USA, and we dont have the KA24DE motor in any of our S13, 14, or 15's, but both the HICAS and Non-HICAS equipt cars, come with a semi decent begginers LSD. even if they dont, its very easy to lock the diff up.. this is a very good and cheap alternative for a drift diff. but will make it a pig for daily driving and twisties.

I have done track work and Mountain runs (GRIP) with and without hicas and i can happily say i preffer no HICAS, I feel that the steering has a bit more feedback with HICAS disabled and makes the car a little more predictable on the limit..

Thats my personal opinion anyways.

P.S forgive my poor spelling and grammatical skillz. its late !

ae86shinchu · 12-22-2003, 04:01 AM

thats cause you aussies get the 2nd best dibbs on the best cars!

in the US we dont get LSD on a 240 (200 for you guys) unless its a fastback s13 with hicas, or an s14 with ABS. both are a bit on the rare side.

and i can agree with you on the no hicas in the mountains. i love the raw feel of my ae86 sometimes. but the hicas gives me a certain boost of confidence. call me "inexperienced", but it just feels good. but yes i do feel a bit of hesitation on turn in sometimes. perhaps i'll look into one of these lock-out kits one of these days...
curses to you aussies and your s15's!

i saw a few when i was in perth last year. i was drooling in public.
btw i love your country and i should be back there again sometime soon. look for the USS John C. Stennis (yeah the one that put all the whore houses out of biz a little over a year ago hahaha! wasnt me!)

Modz · 12-22-2003, 04:13 AM

Hahaha.. i have a few mates in wa and over there regularly for work... its funny how the entire city gose into party mode as soon as the warships get in.. for a town over 1.5 million peeps i find that strange lol.. all i can say is lucky you..

We are pretty lucky when it comes the the jap car scene, we have got most of the decent nissans avilable to us here .. but u got to rember over here.. lowest u will find a Turbo S13 in CA or SR variant is around 6,000 au.. my 1993 S13 Silvia SR20DET 5 spd set me back a cool 12 grand lol..

Oh wells.. you win some.. u loose some lol.

BTW here is a pic of a S15 my team drifts for promo purposes for one of our sponsors. Thought u might be intrested if u like S15's

its a CWEST Wide Body JGTC edition S15

http://www.fulllock.com/Gojira/whiteS15e.jpg

its a decent sized pic so go to the link lol.

PS that kit is worth around 20 grand AU

ae86shinchu · 12-22-2003, 04:31 AM

...i would have that car's children.
i'm actually considering re-enlisting and going to japan just to pick up an S15. incredible car. i like it better than a supra. and 12 grand to you is like... what, 9 or 10 to us? i would pay 9 for an sr20 powered s13 if it was completely legal. here we have to duck and dodge emmisions and all. really a pain for anyone that just wants the correct engine for the s13/14. stupid KA's... whats this thread about again? oh yeah hicas! i thought i read that the S15 comes with hicas? no? i have really been reading up on them. a company might also be grey marketing them to the US soon also. might cost us about $30 large to get it, but... if you want something bad enough...
so how far is melbourne from sydney? i know nothing about austrailia's geography (obviously). what'd you expect from a yank, anyways? haha "GIMME A FAWSTAH's, MATE!" actually it was wierd in perth. guys were buying us beers just because we were american! you guys (and gals!!) are really good to us. i dont know why but i think its cool. for the same reason i try to be just as welcoming to aussie's here in the states. okay i need sleep now haha

Modz · 12-22-2003, 04:35 AM

Hehehe... Melbourne is about 800 k's from sydney down the coast.

BTW S15's have no hicas..

and we pay between 25 and 30 K for S15's over here lol..

As for hospiltality.. we are possibly coming over to compete in the WDC in 2004 .. so hopefully you guys can shout us a few Budz or Miller's, while we are over there

ae86shinchu · 12-22-2003, 05:01 AM

WDC? well, whatever that is, if you are in LA or san diego area, this bud's for you! haha man there has got to be something better than budwieser. thats redneck stuff! MGD is okay i guess. just bring some assuie ladies and i'll buy you a couple cases!! hahaha
okay i really really need some sleep.

swingshift · 07-08-2004, 12:30 PM

I want the best of both worlds. I would like to keep my HICAS for foothill driving and disable it for country road drifting. Where can I get the HICAS lock kit and how hard is it to put it on and take it off, or can it be done?

sr ^Drifter · 08-27-2004, 12:45 AM

u could get

this

12-07-2003, 06:40 AM	#1
BulletProof Dan Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 3	How do you turn off Super Hicas on a 240SX? Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I can get my hands on a 91 240SX in really good condition inside and out with about 100k miles for about $1.5k. Does that seem like a good price? If so does anybody know how you turn off Super Hicas? I want to be able to drift the car and I know that Super Hicas wouldn't be the best option. But I've been looking and there just aren't that many 240s in the Northeast in good condition. Thanks In Advance.

12-07-2003, 12:47 PM	#2
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	RE: There's probably a fuse. Browse through a shop manual.

12-07-2003, 07:52 PM	#4
ACDSupra7 ACDSevenGuy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,148	RE: My bad.

12-22-2003, 04:31 AM	#21
ae86shinchu Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Escondido, Ca Posts: 22	...i would have that car's children. i'm actually considering re-enlisting and going to japan just to pick up an S15. incredible car. i like it better than a supra. and 12 grand to you is like... what, 9 or 10 to us? i would pay 9 for an sr20 powered s13 if it was completely legal. here we have to duck and dodge emmisions and all. really a pain for anyone that just wants the correct engine for the s13/14. stupid KA's... whats this thread about again? oh yeah hicas! i thought i read that the S15 comes with hicas? no? i have really been reading up on them. a company might also be grey marketing them to the US soon also. might cost us about $30 large to get it, but... if you want something bad enough... so how far is melbourne from sydney? i know nothing about austrailia's geography (obviously). what'd you expect from a yank, anyways? haha "GIMME A FAWSTAH's, MATE!" actually it was wierd in perth. guys were buying us beers just because we were american! you guys (and gals!!) are really good to us. i dont know why but i think its cool. for the same reason i try to be just as welcoming to aussie's here in the states. okay i need sleep now haha Last edited by ae86shinchu; 12-22-2003 at 04:33 AM.

07-08-2004, 12:30 PM	#24
swingshift Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California foot hills Posts: 1	HICAS lock kit? I want the best of both worlds. I would like to keep my HICAS for foothill driving and disable it for country road drifting. Where can I get the HICAS lock kit and how hard is it to put it on and take it off, or can it be done?

12-07-2003, 07:06 PM	#3
TokyoDrifterxo7 Tokyo7even Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 295	ACDSupra7 doesnt know what hes talking about. You need to get a hicas eliminator. http://www.splparts.com/S13/Suspension/ArmBush.asp

12-07-2003, 09:27 PM	#5
BulletProof Dan Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 3	Thanks for the replies. I am guessing it's easier and a lot cheaper probably to find one without Hicas.

12-07-2003, 10:50 PM	#6
Nightwalker Guest Posts: n/a	you flip the switch to "OFF" worked on my 240

12-08-2003, 08:15 PM	#8
QuickStyle Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hiroshima, japan Posts: 142	get your wheels lined up perefectly straight and unplug the hicas computer... or pay for the kit.

12-08-2003, 10:59 PM	#9
Chas Guest Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,566	get the kit. Your best bet.

12-09-2003, 10:39 PM	#11
Nightwalker Guest Posts: n/a	sorry, I was just joking about the flipping the switch off comment. Hicas is not an electrically controlled function like "traction" is on new cars. Its a mechanical system that senses speed and supposedly aids in turning (think Prelude 4 wheel steering). There are HICAS eliminator kits on the market. You should check www.pdm-racing.com or www.splparts.com I forget which one has the HICAS eliminator. There's your answer.

12-17-2003, 01:04 PM	#12
eric240 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 88	ya, stillen sells them for a bunch but SPLparts has good deals on them. Don't use the cheap "do-it-youself" methods , only end up with big headache just spend the money and bolt it up urself.

12-17-2003, 01:21 PM	#13
monkeymagic Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: westlake Posts: 289	sorry for the newbe question but whats Super Hicas

12-17-2003, 01:41 PM	#14
TokyoDrifterxo7 Tokyo7even Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 295	super hicas has been covered, just search. it's 4 wheel steering.

12-17-2003, 03:33 PM	#15
monkeymagic Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: westlake Posts: 289	o ok

12-20-2003, 05:01 PM	#16
Modz Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24	To remove Hicas its pretty straight foward.. U need a Hicas Lock kit.. they retail for about 190 AU ITs simply a solid metal bar that replaces the mechanical unit at the rear of your diff.. ur HICAS light will remain on but meh what can you do.. here is a example of a HICAS lock Kit. Sorry about the small pic.. but it was all i could find on such short notice.

12-22-2003, 03:37 AM	#17
ae86shinchu Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Escondido, Ca Posts: 22	i have a HICAS car and i drift it fine. once you kick your clutch or yank your e-brake, hicas cant do much from keeping them from sliding. the torque of the KA is plenty to overcome hicas if you get the hang of it. only thing is since the hicas model has steering angle sensors on the steering wheel, you cant change the hub out for a nardi or momo or anything. completely different and you have to leave the factory wheel. sucks for me cuz i bang my knees on the wheel when i heel-toe all the time. pretty annoying. yeah get the non-hicas if possible, but at least hicas comes with a decent begginers LSD, whereas the non-hicas you will fork over a hefty ammount of dough for an LSD. the choice is yours! i prefer the hicas since i do some mountain carving too and no im not some crazy touge fool who drifts every turn out there. hicas is awsome for grip driving. choose wisely!

12-22-2003, 03:49 AM	#18
Modz Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24	ae86shinchu: what you are saying is true.. but for more advanced drifting and entries such as Feint or as some people call it Scando flick, HICAS is not desireable. Its also a pain in the CensoredCensoredCensored for high speed (3rd gear) trail braking entries as well ! I am not sure what the situation is like in the USA, and we dont have the KA24DE motor in any of our S13, 14, or 15's, but both the HICAS and Non-HICAS equipt cars, come with a semi decent begginers LSD. even if they dont, its very easy to lock the diff up.. this is a very good and cheap alternative for a drift diff. but will make it a pig for daily driving and twisties. I have done track work and Mountain runs (GRIP) with and without hicas and i can happily say i preffer no HICAS, I feel that the steering has a bit more feedback with HICAS disabled and makes the car a little more predictable on the limit.. Thats my personal opinion anyways. P.S forgive my poor spelling and grammatical skillz. its late !

12-22-2003, 04:01 AM	#19
ae86shinchu Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Escondido, Ca Posts: 22	thats cause you aussies get the 2nd best dibbs on the best cars! in the US we dont get LSD on a 240 (200 for you guys) unless its a fastback s13 with hicas, or an s14 with ABS. both are a bit on the rare side. and i can agree with you on the no hicas in the mountains. i love the raw feel of my ae86 sometimes. but the hicas gives me a certain boost of confidence. call me "inexperienced", but it just feels good. but yes i do feel a bit of hesitation on turn in sometimes. perhaps i'll look into one of these lock-out kits one of these days... curses to you aussies and your s15's! i saw a few when i was in perth last year. i was drooling in public. btw i love your country and i should be back there again sometime soon. look for the USS John C. Stennis (yeah the one that put all the whore houses out of biz a little over a year ago hahaha! wasnt me!)

12-22-2003, 04:13 AM	#20
Modz Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24	Hahaha.. i have a few mates in wa and over there regularly for work... its funny how the entire city gose into party mode as soon as the warships get in.. for a town over 1.5 million peeps i find that strange lol.. all i can say is lucky you.. We are pretty lucky when it comes the the jap car scene, we have got most of the decent nissans avilable to us here .. but u got to rember over here.. lowest u will find a Turbo S13 in CA or SR variant is around 6,000 au.. my 1993 S13 Silvia SR20DET 5 spd set me back a cool 12 grand lol.. Oh wells.. you win some.. u loose some lol. BTW here is a pic of a S15 my team drifts for promo purposes for one of our sponsors. Thought u might be intrested if u like S15's its a CWEST Wide Body JGTC edition S15 http://www.fulllock.com/Gojira/whiteS15e.jpg its a decent sized pic so go to the link lol. PS that kit is worth around 20 grand AU

12-22-2003, 04:35 AM	#22
Modz Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24	Hehehe... Melbourne is about 800 k's from sydney down the coast. BTW S15's have no hicas.. and we pay between 25 and 30 K for S15's over here lol.. As for hospiltality.. we are possibly coming over to compete in the WDC in 2004 .. so hopefully you guys can shout us a few Budz or Miller's, while we are over there

12-22-2003, 05:01 AM	#23
ae86shinchu Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Escondido, Ca Posts: 22	WDC? well, whatever that is, if you are in LA or san diego area, this bud's for you! haha man there has got to be something better than budwieser. thats redneck stuff! MGD is okay i guess. just bring some assuie ladies and i'll buy you a couple cases!! hahaha okay i really really need some sleep.

08-27-2004, 12:45 AM	#25
sr ^Drifter kitchen fresh chicken Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 145	u could get this

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