freeplay

Ripper · 10-02-2004, 07:56 PM

anyone heard of this? it has to do withthe gas pedal

Parry · 10-02-2004, 08:09 PM

freeplay in anything is where you have "slack". With the gas pedal, it would be where you are stepping on the gas but not actually opening the throttle.

You would probably need to make adjustments to take slack out of the throttle cable, unless it is a drive-by-wire car.

Ripper · 10-03-2004, 01:06 PM

thanx for the clear def. does anyone know how to correct this? the "slow throttle response" is really getting to me

iownju · 10-03-2004, 01:21 PM

just do to the throttle body, and take the wire, take it off the TB and then pull it tight or before you start pulling the pedal down then reconnect it and cut off slack, that shoudl work. And also try putting lubercant down the cable wire, should help with cable movement

OH240SE · 10-03-2004, 03:54 PM

dont forget the amount of free play needed to have ur clutch properly working

Ripper · 10-03-2004, 04:06 PM

well, this is an automatic. to be exact, it's a 95 Mercedes E320 i think? i just need to tweek this so this car is actually driveable for me

iownju · 10-03-2004, 04:19 PM

well, thats a little different, is it a drive by wire, or a throttle cable set up, because i dont know much about MB engines

Slonie · 10-03-2004, 05:39 PM

I have a hunch that the car is drive-by-wire, in which case you are basically hosed.

I haven't yet driven a drive-by-wire car whose throttle response was satisfactory. Now, I'm sure it has been done, but my last experience with it (E46 BMW) was not great at all.

Boo DBW!

Ripper · 10-03-2004, 08:04 PM

yes, it is a drive-by-wire. i know somewhere you can mechanically tighten the bolts or the wire.
anyone else know ?

iownju · 10-03-2004, 08:27 PM

it could be that or possibly a computer thing that has that slow throttle time for "luxury and smooth driving" experience. My moms car is like that but not in throttle, but in transmission, its so slow and sloppy when chaning its just so uncomfortable

.You could try asking your local mercedes dealership. But other than that, not sure what can be done.

Ripper · 10-03-2004, 10:28 PM

heh. i drove it on saturday, and it was so slow taht when i floored it, it took about 3 sec. to downshift. oh yea, i don't really think drivers enjoy driving with freeplay, atleast i dont'. sure it's luxury, but it's hard to control. on the other hand, the transmission is really soft, so nothing crude.

oh yea, thanx for the input guys.

Parry · 10-03-2004, 10:54 PM

drive by wire doesn't mean that there is a wire as in a cable in between the pedal and the throttle body, it means that there is only a computer or "wire" connection between the pedal and the throttle body. It is computer/servo controlled.

There would be no bolts or wire to tighten if it was.

LOVMUFN · 10-04-2004, 08:56 AM

It is servo controlled and you can't adjust it, you can get a new one for about 1,100 and replace the wiring because on the early to mid 90s benzes they were required to make a certain ammount of the car biodegradable so they made the wire casings out of a material that likes to crack and fall off. At my old job we used to fix tons of cars that had a list of 2000000 things wrong with it by replacing the engine wiring harness, it ain't cheap either though. You can adjust the tranny with the modulator pressure, don't screw with it too much or you will eff up the tranny though.

Ripper · 10-04-2004, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOVMUFN
early to mid 90s benzes

waht about other luxury manuf. such as lexus or bmw. anyone?

14yrolddrifter · 10-04-2004, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOVMUFN
early to mid 90s benzes

I was biking and I got hit by one of those the other day. Let's just say it was a certain person wearing one of those obnoxious sun visors. They took off right away and I couldn't get the plates. It's black for those hwo live in richmond bc.

yarzan · 10-05-2004, 06:53 AM

hey i got an idea... i used to do this to be "cool" (rememebers his sad past...) if u drive an auto, put it in first or low, than u can put it in second, than (if u have) third, than drive... plenty more control than that big "D"!

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10-02-2004, 08:09 PM	#2
Parry Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 894	freeplay in anything is where you have "slack". With the gas pedal, it would be where you are stepping on the gas but not actually opening the throttle. You would probably need to make adjustments to take slack out of the throttle cable, unless it is a drive-by-wire car.

10-03-2004, 01:06 PM	#3
Ripper post whore Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 883	thanx for the clear def. does anyone know how to correct this? the "slow throttle response" is really getting to me

10-03-2004, 01:21 PM	#4
iownju Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ATL, Ga Posts: 363	just do to the throttle body, and take the wire, take it off the TB and then pull it tight or before you start pulling the pedal down then reconnect it and cut off slack, that shoudl work. And also try putting lubercant down the cable wire, should help with cable movement

10-03-2004, 03:54 PM	#5
OH240SE Flatland Honky Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 247	dont forget the amount of free play needed to have ur clutch properly working

10-03-2004, 04:06 PM	#6
Ripper post whore Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 883	well, this is an automatic. to be exact, it's a 95 Mercedes E320 i think? i just need to tweek this so this car is actually driveable for me

10-03-2004, 04:19 PM	#7
iownju Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ATL, Ga Posts: 363	well, thats a little different, is it a drive by wire, or a throttle cable set up, because i dont know much about MB engines

10-03-2004, 05:39 PM	#8
Slonie is a composite character Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Norcal Posts: 173	I have a hunch that the car is drive-by-wire, in which case you are basically hosed. I haven't yet driven a drive-by-wire car whose throttle response was satisfactory. Now, I'm sure it has been done, but my last experience with it (E46 BMW) was not great at all. Boo DBW!

10-03-2004, 08:04 PM	#9
Ripper post whore Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 883	yes, it is a drive-by-wire. i know somewhere you can mechanically tighten the bolts or the wire. anyone else know ?

10-03-2004, 08:27 PM	#10
iownju Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ATL, Ga Posts: 363	it could be that or possibly a computer thing that has that slow throttle time for "luxury and smooth driving" experience. My moms car is like that but not in throttle, but in transmission, its so slow and sloppy when chaning its just so uncomfortable .You could try asking your local mercedes dealership. But other than that, not sure what can be done.

10-03-2004, 10:28 PM	#11
Ripper post whore Join Date: May 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 883	heh. i drove it on saturday, and it was so slow taht when i floored it, it took about 3 sec. to downshift. oh yea, i don't really think drivers enjoy driving with freeplay, atleast i dont'. sure it's luxury, but it's hard to control. on the other hand, the transmission is really soft, so nothing crude. oh yea, thanx for the input guys.

10-03-2004, 10:54 PM	#12
Parry Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 894	drive by wire doesn't mean that there is a wire as in a cable in between the pedal and the throttle body, it means that there is only a computer or "wire" connection between the pedal and the throttle body. It is computer/servo controlled. There would be no bolts or wire to tighten if it was.

10-04-2004, 08:56 AM	#13
LOVMUFN Drift Assoc. - Lead Tech Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 257	It is servo controlled and you can't adjust it, you can get a new one for about 1,100 and replace the wiring because on the early to mid 90s benzes they were required to make a certain ammount of the car biodegradable so they made the wire casings out of a material that likes to crack and fall off. At my old job we used to fix tons of cars that had a list of 2000000 things wrong with it by replacing the engine wiring harness, it ain't cheap either though. You can adjust the tranny with the modulator pressure, don't screw with it too much or you will eff up the tranny though.

10-05-2004, 06:53 AM	#16
yarzan Israeli Dori :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kiriat Tivon, Israel. Posts: 1,109	hey i got an idea... i used to do this to be "cool" (rememebers his sad past...) if u drive an auto, put it in first or low, than u can put it in second, than (if u have) third, than drive... plenty more control than that big "D"!