Improving Turn-In

Murray_Calavera · 10-10-2004, 02:16 AM

Hey all.
I was wondering what is the most effective way to improve turn-in?
My car (VN commodore 91') has alot of hurdles to jump when it comes to drift. These include: super soft suspension, body roll, massive understear, no hand brake (has a park brake connected to shoes, although the car has 4 disk brakes..), its auto, open diff...

so... Im thinking the best way to improve my drift ability is to improve my cars turn-in so I can brake drift...

The analogy I was given I think went along the lines of "You cant make a good omlet out of bad eggs no matter how good your cooking equipment is" "Think of your tyers like the ingredients, they are more important then your suspension set-up"

So guys, changeing my tyers would be my best bet? Im currently running pretty dodgy ones...
Can I only change the front to save $$?

Parry · 10-10-2004, 09:49 AM

you really need it all...

Firmer springs, stiffer sways, quality shocks, and decent tires. Strutural bracing (front strut tower brace, perhaps rear as well, subframe connectors, whatever's available) is also a good thing for crisper turn-in.

f8ldzz · 10-10-2004, 08:29 PM

Tune some toe-out on front tires
Get tires with stiffer sidewalls
Get better suspension

In order of cheapest to more expensive...

theflatlander · 10-11-2004, 12:48 AM

i'm pretty sure this is covered in the sticky threads

10-10-2004, 02:16 AM	#1
Murray_Calavera Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5	Improving Turn-In Hey all. I was wondering what is the most effective way to improve turn-in? My car (VN commodore 91') has alot of hurdles to jump when it comes to drift. These include: super soft suspension, body roll, massive understear, no hand brake (has a park brake connected to shoes, although the car has 4 disk brakes..), its auto, open diff... so... Im thinking the best way to improve my drift ability is to improve my cars turn-in so I can brake drift... The analogy I was given I think went along the lines of "You cant make a good omlet out of bad eggs no matter how good your cooking equipment is" "Think of your tyers like the ingredients, they are more important then your suspension set-up" So guys, changeing my tyers would be my best bet? Im currently running pretty dodgy ones... Can I only change the front to save $$?

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10-10-2004, 09:49 AM	#2
Parry Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 894	you really need it all... Firmer springs, stiffer sways, quality shocks, and decent tires. Strutural bracing (front strut tower brace, perhaps rear as well, subframe connectors, whatever's available) is also a good thing for crisper turn-in.

10-10-2004, 08:29 PM	#3
f8ldzz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 185	Tune some toe-out on front tires Get tires with stiffer sidewalls Get better suspension In order of cheapest to more expensive...

10-11-2004, 12:48 AM	#4
theflatlander Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Dakota Posts: 393	i'm pretty sure this is covered in the sticky threads